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Zion Shad
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2084
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:46:00 -
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Sony has just revealed the Playstation Now which is software that will allow you to play your PS3 games on both your PS4 and Vita. So this mean you could have the ability to play DUST 514 on them as well. The Now is due out this summer
Look up the Playstation Now to sign up for the closed beta if you have a PS4.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1003
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:51:00 -
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Shad, there's a lot of threads about this already. :) The biggest thing, I think, is that CCP would have to do a lot of testing, and possibly some specific optimization to make this work with DUST 514, if it's even possible at all. On top of that, the summer release is US-only, and CCP would probably wait until an international release. Games will have to be individually launched for the platform.
So I don't think there's really any chance at all of this being ready this summer for DUST.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2042
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:57:00 -
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Seems to me that it would create unbearable network lag. We shall see...
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Zion Shad
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2084
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Shad, there's a lot of threads about this already. :) The biggest thing, I think, is that CCP would have to do a lot of testing, and possibly some specific optimization to make this work with DUST 514, if it's even possible at all. On top of that, the summer release is US-only, and CCP would probably wait until an international release. Games will have to be individually launched for the platform.
So I don't think there's really any chance at all of this being ready this summer for DUST.
I would hope the Dev decides to go with the summer launch and maybe beta. It's the Now that makes me wonder if it's the reason the Dust app never dropped
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Legen-Wait for It-Dairy
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:09:00 -
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No offense, but it's threads like these that cause unnecessary rumors and the PR nightmare similar to the one CCP faced during EVE Vegas. Yes, SONY has announced this service, but rather than have CCP try to work on getting DUST to work with PS Now, I think we all would rather have them iron out the core mechanics of the game first and get out all the racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, vehicles, etc. before they work on something like that.
EVE has lasted this long because of the player base trusting in CCP. Let's do the same with DUST please?
No use crying over spilled milk unless you're a dairy farmer. Then you're forced to watch your livelihood slip away.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
750
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:13:00 -
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Personally, Even though I enjoy the Playstation and have been a Playstation owner since the very first. And even though sony has a better hardware package put together right at this moment for their console, I don't see the Playstation 4(even though i own one) lasting to long as the dominate force in the market place.
In fact i see the Console wars coming to an end all together with the Steambox, officially cross-platforming every game on steam.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/valve-steam-box-release-date-news-and-features-1127072
It potentially is a console/budget gaming PC killer.
If Valve keeps with the idea of allowing SteamOS to be open source and allow hardware manufacturers build their own hardware spec's and pricing margins, the sky is the limit for hardware capabilities.
Game development is much an art, and has been turned into a business first then art. EA games for example could build games with just the development tools and pieces that has been built over their collection of titles. Then Frankenstein a game together quickly, buy a shelf in the Walmart and Gamestops and have a successful title.
The Steam market could potentially allow an avenue for all game developers to market their products or art, without having to go through distributors and partnered mega vendors. The sky really is the limit with what Valve is purposing, if executed right this could be the end of the cross platform debate and the need for static hardware platforms for living room entertainment. |
HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
74
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:14:00 -
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That would be cool hope it happens
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ONE-I-BANDIT
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:22:00 -
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Way to money much money for the Steam BoX . They would have to drop the price alot for me to even look at it |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1511
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:26:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Shad, there's a lot of threads about this already. :) The biggest thing, I think, is that CCP would have to do a lot of testing, and possibly some specific optimization to make this work with DUST 514, if it's even possible at all. On top of that, the summer release is US-only, and CCP would probably wait until an international release. Games will have to be individually launched for the platform.
So I don't think there's really any chance at all of this being ready this summer for DUST.
Playstation now is just streaming. I also think the summer release is PS3 only. So it won't be out for the PS4 then.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4510
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:28:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Shad, there's a lot of threads about this already. :) The biggest thing, I think, is that CCP would have to do a lot of testing, and possibly some specific optimization to make this work with DUST 514, if it's even possible at all. On top of that, the summer release is US-only, and CCP would probably wait until an international release. Games will have to be individually launched for the platform.
So I don't think there's really any chance at all of this being ready this summer for DUST. Playstation Now is just streaming. I also think the summer release is PS3 only. So it won't be out for the PS4 then. No, PlayStation Now is an app for the PS4 (and Vita) that allows you to stream PS3 games. The service will not be available on the PS3 itself.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
751
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:30:00 -
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ONE-I-BANDIT wrote:Way to money much money for the Steam BoX . They would have to drop the price alot for me to even look at it
Read the article, SteamOS is to be free Open Source.
Meaning any hardware developer could potentially make one. CCP could build one themself if they truly wanted. If done right, YOU could build your own in your own budget range.
PS4 will be selling at a loss for the first year projected possibly 2. But as always the next generation of hardware is always launched between the new years and February. allowing for the next generation of hardware to take max pricing, and the current top of the line to be pretty cost efficient. |
ONE-I-BANDIT
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:44:00 -
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If thats the case why not just put that app on an laptop? Too my understanding it was there version of an platform system. I understand where your going with that but I would think it would get muddy with law suites for some type of infringement or something. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2711
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:48:00 -
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If it has to stream the game, there will be severe input delay.
If there is ANY input delay, the game will not be playable.
So this news is not relevant to anyone who is serious about playing dust competitively. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
751
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:52:00 -
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ONE-I-BANDIT wrote:If thats the case why not just put that app on an laptop? Too my understanding it was there version of an platform system. I understand where your going with that but I would think it would get muddy with law suites for some type of infringement or something.
You do understand how much it takes to just run windows?
Quote:Or should we say Steam Boxes? Multiple manufacturers, including iBuyPower and Digital Storm, have given us glimpses of their designs, with the promise of more to come at the show in Vegas early next year. Valve Steam Box release date, news and features(credit: Engadget) Both manufacturers are well known in the gaming enthusiast space, and we'd be shocked if more companies that specialize in gaming didn't reveal designs over their own. Valve's idea behind making the SteamOS free and open source is to encourage multiple builds to let customers choose the machine that's right for them. Expect serious competition as hardware manufacturers fight to convince the consumer where to spend their Steam Box dollar. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
843
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:00:00 -
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one thing about the Playstation Now is that its "Streaming" via their cloud system, and the people who tested it out said theres a slight delay between button pressing. i can already see plenty of people blaming that problem when they die in dust
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:02:00 -
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The steambox( I know quite a bit about it ) most likely isn't going to take a lot of marketshare from the ps4 or the one since these two consoles are the fastest selling consoles in history or at least the ps4 is , regardless if it's more powerful or not. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/what-sonys-42-million-ps4s-sold-figure-actually-means
I think Psnow will be used by CCP , but not at the start since I don't think Europe is going to able to use it in the summer. |
Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
4319
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:07:00 -
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I dont think so.
Its coming to the EU later than the US, is it not?
Would be unfair if say the performance is better on PS4 in PC, and EU players suffer because of that.
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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:08:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Seems to me that it would create unbearable network lag. We shall see... Have you used the PS4? I can completely download a game 3 times as large in half as long as the PS3 version and start playing that game in half that time, I have high confidence this will work.
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
263
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:16:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:I dont think so.
Its coming to the EU later than the US, is it not?
Would be unfair if say the performance is better on PS4 in PC, and EU players suffer because of that. dollars trump tears
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1426
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:54:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Personally, Even though I enjoy the Playstation and have been a Playstation owner since the very first. And even though sony has a better hardware package put together right at this moment for their console, I don't see the Playstation 4(even though i own one) lasting to long as the dominate force in the market place. In fact i see the Console wars coming to an end all together with the Steambox, officially cross-platforming every game on steam. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/valve-steam-box-release-date-news-and-features-1127072It potentially is a console/budget gaming PC killer.If Valve keeps with the idea of allowing SteamOS to be open source and allow hardware manufacturers to build their own hardware spec's and pricing margins, the sky is the limit for hardware capabilities. Game development is much an art, and has been turned into a business first then art. EA games for example could build games with just the development tools and pieces that has been built over their collection of titles. Then Frankenstein a game together quickly, buy a shelf in the Walmart and Gamestops and have a successful title. The Steam market could potentially allow an avenue for all game developers to market their products or art, without having to go through distributors and partnered mega vendors. The sky really is the limit with what Valve is purposing, if executed right this could be the end of the cross platform debate and the need for static half decade old hardware platforms for living room entertainment.
$500-1000 for a steam box, people will get them but they will not kill consoles or PCs. Every year some new device drops that is the console/PC killer and it never happens. The steam box is a laptop with no screen, the miniature size makes it as expensive or more expensive than a equally performing PC. Why would I pay more for a PC that does less than a PC?
Consoles will probably never die because they are good pieces of hardware that have long a long life. Consoles may become more alike than different but the steam box will no one kill them off because of the entry price, ease of use and brand name recognition.
Steam boxes use the internet to download content, many places have slow/bad connections or even no connection at all. Console solve this by providing players with physical media that doesn't need the internet. I would be shocked if the steam box sells half as many as a PS4 or xboxone. Why spend the extra $500 when I have the PC or console that does it already?
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Eko Sol
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
14
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:58:00 -
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ONE-I-BANDIT wrote:Way to money much money for the Steam BoX . They would have to drop the price alot for me to even look at it
For the record you can build your own steambox at whatever your price point is. In addition, companies have offered dual boot systems to include windows so it is very possible to DIY a steambox at a budget for sure. You can overclock and everything through the bios and flash the card. Then put it in a machine for a steambox fit...i mean build. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3200
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:01:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I dont think so.
Its coming to the EU later than the US, is it not?
Would be unfair if say the performance is better on PS4 in PC, and EU players suffer because of that. dollars trump tears Yes, but tears create unhappy customers.
And unhappy customers creates a boycott
And a boycott means no customers.
And no customers means ...
No 'Dollars'
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1426
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:04:00 -
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Galthur wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Seems to me that it would create unbearable network lag. We shall see... Have you used the PS4? I can completely download a game 3 times as large in half as long as the PS3 version and start playing that game in half that time, I have high confidence this will work.
I am not as optimistic as you. Single player games probably play no problem but the NOW will probably not do too well at multiplayer games. The PS4 can do all the things you listed but it was designed to do it with extra components that are specifically designed to allow for higher speed installs and the ability to start playing before they are finished downloading.
The Now will have to hit the server then come back to the now then go back to the server and the severe will have to do this multiple time for each player creation 250ms or more ping times. No one will play a online multiplayer game that has a quarter second input lag. Today's tech/ internet connections aren't robust enough to pull that off, espically if the other player or server is on the other side of the world. DUST runs on military grade hardware and look at the problems we have in PC, which are in my opinion due to the distances and ping times.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1010
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:18:00 -
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In another thread, I indicated why PSNow performance may be comparable or better.
Right now we have a combination of a terrible frame rate on device, and latency back to the battle servers.
However, the streaming system can use custom hardware that may surpass the PS3 in performance, and hence solve the frame rate issue.
So we increase some aspects of delay, but shorten others. And of course, the streaming system hardware is probably close to the battle servers themselves, maybe even in the same datacenter, which would reduce latency on that link of the chain.
It really depends how well it's optimized. For a single-player game, streaming will be a little worse than not streaming. In the case of DUST, it might be equivalent or better.
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
336
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:28:00 -
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I saw a random video interview with David Reid where the question of next gen D514 was asked. He said that CCP "were always in talks with Sony" and mentioned in particular their cloud technology but I don't really think that has anything to do with with D514 on PS4. I dunno, unless it runs better from Sony's super servers I'd rather play it on PS3 until an actual proper port comes to PS4 with better performance and resolution.
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Zion Shad
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2087
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:16:00 -
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Legen-Wait for It-Dairy wrote:No offense, but it's threads like these that cause unnecessary rumors and the PR nightmare similar to the one CCP faced during EVE Vegas. Yes, SONY has announced this service, but rather than have CCP try to work on getting DUST to work with PS Now, I think we all would rather have them iron out the core mechanics of the game first and get out all the racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, vehicles, etc. before they work on something like that.
EVE has lasted this long because of the player base trusting in CCP. Let's do the same with DUST please?
You don't understand how this works then. It's not the Game devs (on any title) that have to make ports, it's more like an emulator that allows the games to work automatically. CCP really does not need to do much at all here. You read any info?
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1010
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:18:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:You don't understand how this works then. It's not the Game devs (on any title) that have to make ports, it's more like an emulator that allows the games to work automatically. CCP really does not need to do much at all here. You read any info?
There's no way this is going to function without Sony actually launching the game on the platform, and yes, CCP is going to have to do some work. (Just vastly less than launching a PS4 game natively.) It has to actually be hosted on their machines in order to run. Note that only four games are going to be available for it at the start of it. It most certainly will require some work to put DUST on it, particularly as a multiplayer game.
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Zion Shad
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2087
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:30:00 -
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Lol well this is now just getting funny. Players have been asking and telling CCP to put Dust on PS4 and now that there is a way, it's being put down. Also I'm going to add the question about Dust & the Steam Box up so those post don't look off topic.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1037
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:30:00 -
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Steambox is an overrated piece of ****. Everyone and their mother can buy a htcp like gaming pc, connect it with the tv and a gamepad to enjoy console like experience. If you are lazy you can buy a prebuilt one from e.g. Alienware, or if you have decent knowledge about pc components you can get one thats very silent even under heavy load and if you are great at crafting and physics you can, like me, even make the case and heatsinks by yourself thus it cools completely passive via natural covection aided by several heatpipes.
Btw my htcp like pc runs ubuntu with a windows VM that has VGA/hardware passthrough thus I can run any game anywhere at home with almost zero delay and almost zero performance loss on any machine with remote access via lan. I could even do this via internet but the delay over internet is not healthy in pvp, I would need better connection at home for it but it is enough to do market stuff in eve. The nice part is: runs fully passive cooled with selfmade heatsinks, cpu max temp is around 60 at very heavy load. It takes almost zero watts to run when not in use cause the pc sleeps without load and is waken up with a magic packet when required. I can wake up the pc through the internet, connect to it, start eve and do some trading and all that with phone or tablet.
With better hardware i could run even more sophisticated setups but that costs money. |
Eko Sol
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
17
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:16:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Steambox is an overrated piece of ****. Everyone and their mother can buy a htcp like gaming pc, connect it with the tv and a gamepad to enjoy console like experience. If you are lazy you can buy a prebuilt one from e.g. Alienware, or if you have decent knowledge about pc components you can get one thats very silent even under heavy load and if you are great at crafting and physics you can, like me, even make the case and heatsinks by yourself thus it cools completely passive via natural covection aided by several heatpipes.
Btw my htcp like pc runs ubuntu with a windows VM that has VGA/hardware passthrough thus I can run any game anywhere at home with almost zero delay and almost zero performance loss on any machine with remote access via lan. I could even do this via internet but the delay over internet is not healthy in pvp, I would need better connection at home for it but it is enough to do market stuff in eve. The nice part is: runs fully passive cooled with selfmade heatsinks, cpu max temp is around 60 at very heavy load. It takes almost zero watts to run when not in use cause the pc sleeps without load and is waken up with a magic packet when required. I can wake up the pc through the internet, connect to it, start eve and do some trading and all that with an android phone or tablet.
With better hardware i could run even more sophisticated setups but that costs money.
I know devs that optimize linux OS's for various things (i.e. datamining, Network Security, etc.). I know for a fact that OPTIMIZING an OS for gaming is completely different than just making a pc into a fake gaming machine. This is literally the same as a console in almost every way EXCEPT it isn't completely propritary. Expect better performance than you would get with a DirectX Windows PC by far. No useless OS stuff to worry about....except for viruses. My only concern is viruses because it will have the same holes as most linux distro's. Other than that, it will be better in every way...theoretically. |
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2538
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:25:00 -
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The digital future is here. The war on Gamestop has just begun...
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1010
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:35:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Lol well this is now just getting funny. Players have been asking and telling CCP to put Dust on PS4 and now that there is a way, it's being put down. Also I'm going to add the question about Dust & the Steam Box up so those post don't look off topic.
It's realism, Shad. It's likely possible, it's definitely something CCP should look at. And I think it'll work decently. But there's most certainly work involved, and I'd give it about a 1% chance CCP will have this working for the summer launch of PlayStation Now.
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Eko Sol
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:38:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Lol well this is now just getting funny. Players have been asking and telling CCP to put Dust on PS4 and now that there is a way, it's being put down. Also I'm going to add the question about Dust & the Steam Box up so those post don't look off topic. It's realism, Shad. It's likely possible, it's definitely something CCP should look at. And I think it'll work decently. But there's most certainly work involved, and I'd give it about a 1% chance CCP will have this working for the summer launch of PlayStation Now.
Here is the thing. Crowd Sourcing is super effective. If it's money/staffing that would keep it from happening then crowdsource and knock it out. Porting it to PS4 makes a lot of sense. In addition, doing it before the end of the first year will more than tripple the number of players on it for sure. Think about how many games will even be out for PS4 by December of 2014. Maybe 40? So it will be, at a minimum, a top 40 ps4 game. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1441
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:20:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
It potentially is a console/budget gaming PC killer.
Steam Machine
Alternate - $1339 CPU - Intel Core i5 4570 Graphics - Gigabyte GTX 760 RAM - 16GB Storage - 1TB SSHD CyberPowerPC - $499 and up CPU - AMD/Intel Core i5 CPU Graphics - AMD Radeon R9 270/Nvidia GTX 760 RAM - 8GB Storage - 500GB Digital Storm Bolt II - $2,584 CPU - Intel Core i7 4770K Graphics - GTX 780 Ti RAM - 16GB Storage - 1TB HDD + 120 GB SSD Gigabyte Brix Pro - TBD CPU - Intel Core i7-4770R Graphics - Intel Iris Pro 5200 RAM - 2 x 4GB Storage - 1TB SATA 6Gb/SATA Falcon Northwest - $1,799 to $6000 CPU - Customizable Graphics - Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan RAM - 8 to 16 GB Storage - up to 6 TB iBuyPower - $499 and up CPU - Quad core AMD or Intel Graphics - Radeon GCN Graphics RAM - 8GB Storage - 500GB+ Materiel.net - $1,098 CPU - Intel Core i5 4440 Graphics - MSI GeForce GTX 760 OC RAM - 8GB Storage - 8 GB + 1 TB SSHD Next SPA - Price TBD CPU - Intel Core i5 Graphics - Nvidia GT 760 RAM - 8GB Storage - 1TB Origin PC Chronos - price TBD CPU - Intel Core i7 4770K (3.9 to 4.6 GHz) Graphics - 2 x 6GB Nvidia GeForce GTX Titans Scan NC 10 - $1,090 CPU - Intel Core i3 4000M Graphics - Nvidia GeForce GTX 765M RAM - 8GB Storage - 500GB Webhallen - $1,499 CPU - Intel Core i7 Graphics - Nvidia GT 780 RAM - 16GB Storage - 1TB SSHD Zotac - $599 CPU - Intel Core (TBD) Graphics - Nvidia GeForce GTX RAM - TBD Storage - TBD
Let me get in line for that or I could just use a real computer I had built by CyberPower that blows it out of the water and does more.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1037
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:17:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote: I know devs that optimize linux OS's for various things (i.e. datamining, Network Security, etc.). I know for a fact that OPTIMIZING an OS for gaming is completely different than just making a pc into a fake gaming machine. This is literally the same as a console in almost every way EXCEPT it isn't completely propritary. Expect better performance than you would get with a DirectX Windows PC by far. No useless OS stuff to worry about....except for viruses. My only concern is viruses because it will have the same holes as most linux distro's. Other than that, it will be better in every way...theoretically.
I dont get your point, so what is again special about the Steambox? I read somewhere that the OS will be open source, I could get the Steambox OS and use it by myself for gaming. I can also run it as a VM with VGA passthrough & hardware virtualization on any lightweight minimal install Linux distro and dedicate most of the hardware ressource to this VM and get the same performance as the Steambox plus even more. and if the VM dies to whatever (like you mentioned e.g. an exploit/infection) I can just delete the VM and setup a new one without any damage to the main system.
fact is, steambox is nothing special, getting and HTCP like case with windows and run the latest games is something everyone can do and it costs as much as any other computer for gaming. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2001
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:34:00 -
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Someone please explain what the appeal of that newbox is over a proper rig? I just can't see it.
Why the fk would you want to spend that much money, on a fun sized (sht) pc that plays console games?
Someone please explain what that joke can do better than a decent rig and be able to play console games doesn't count as pc games are about 10 years ahead of this crap.
It all seems to be a hype over nothing.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
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m621 zma
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Just saying - no KB/M support on PS4 |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 14:19:00 -
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I could sell my ps3
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
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dust badger
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Posted - 2014.01.09 14:22:00 -
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The second they confirm DUST on PS4 i will buy one, you hear that SONY make CCP move over and you will sell another PS4 |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.09 14:25:00 -
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According to this PS Blog You will need +5Mbps to stream a game properly and according to them, Multi-player works. |
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.01.09 14:29:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:According to this PS Blog You will need +5Mbps to stream a game properly and according to them, Multi-player works.
When this comes out it's a day one get for me...
This single addition could be what wins the console wars.
Also - Sony is trying to pass rights to stream content into PS1/PS2 games, in order to change them up without having to break down the coding and do it manually. Allowing them to add new content to games like Legend of Dragoon and Breath of Fire 3, it also would allow trophy support for older games.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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The Robot Devil
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I am a total SONY fanboy but I don't have much faith in the multiplayer part. They said the same type of things about the PSP and it never lived up to it. SONY makes great electronics and pushes innovations but the end user probably doesn't have the connection speeds that SONY uses to test these things out on. I am all for them trying but I will believe it when I see it working.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Bethhy
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The Robot Devil wrote:Bethhy wrote:Personally, Even though I enjoy the Playstation and have been a Playstation owner since the very first. And even though sony has a better hardware package put together right at this moment for their console, I don't see the Playstation 4(even though i own one) lasting to long as the dominate force in the market place. In fact i see the Console wars coming to an end all together with the Steambox, officially cross-platforming every game on steam. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/valve-steam-box-release-date-news-and-features-1127072It potentially is a console/budget gaming PC killer.If Valve keeps with the idea of allowing SteamOS to be open source and allow hardware manufacturers to build their own hardware spec's and pricing margins, the sky is the limit for hardware capabilities. Game development is much an art, and has been turned into a business first then art. EA games for example could build games with just the development tools and pieces that has been built over their collection of titles. Then Frankenstein a game together quickly, buy a shelf in the Walmart and Gamestops and have a successful title. The Steam market could potentially allow an avenue for all game developers to market their products or art, without having to go through distributors and partnered mega vendors. The sky really is the limit with what Valve is purposing, if executed right this could be the end of the cross platform debate and the need for static half decade old hardware platforms for living room entertainment. $500-1000 for a steam box, people will get them but they will not kill consoles or PCs. Every year some new device drops that is the console/PC killer and it never happens. The steam box is a laptop with no screen, the miniature size makes it as expensive or more expensive than a equally performing PC. Why would I pay more for a PC that does less than a PC? Consoles will probably never die because they are good pieces of hardware that have long a long life. Consoles may become more alike than different but the steam box will no one kill them off because of the entry price, ease of use and brand name recognition. Steam boxes use the internet to download content, many places have slow/bad connections or even no connection at all. Console solve this by providing players with physical media that doesn't need the internet. I would be shocked if the steam box sells half as many as a PS4 or xboxone. Why spend the extra $500 when I have the PC or console that does it already?
You could argue the tablet and smart phone is slowly killing both the console and PC. And people are still saying they arent and the laptop is king. |
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