DUST Search - New assault suit bonuses are a MAJOR nerf to the Amarr

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

+5% to weapon ROF
+5% to Armor repair modules

These are passive nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit!

There is no more heat reduction to laser weapons which passively nerfs the amount of SCR rounds an Amarr Assault suit can fire. NO OTHER WEAPON HAS AN OVERHEAT MECHANIC AND NOW YOU REMOVED THE ONE SKILL THAT MADE THE AMARR ASSAULT SHINE?!? Also, the +5% to ROF will mean you can fire the SCR even faster, leading to faster overheat.

Second nerf to the Amarr Assault - the +5% to Armor Repair Modules. Yes I know some of you are like "how's that a nerf, that's a major positive thing!" It may be positive for any other suit, but for the Amarr assault WHICH HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LOW SLOTS, this is a passive nerf. You'd have to be a fool to pass up putting a repper on your Assault suit which takes a slot that plates could go - you just lowered the eHP an Amarr Assault suit can get. Yeah I know, you don't HAVE to equip the armor reps, but you'd be a fool not to.

CCP why don't you just go ahead and nerf Amarr's CPU and PG as well...just admit it, you all hate the Amarr (minus Wolfman).

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Aisha Ctarl Ctarl - Ctarl Empire 2697	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:47:00 - [1] - Quote +5% to weapon ROF +5% to Armor repair modules These are passive nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit! There is no more heat reduction to laser weapons which passively nerfs the amount of SCR rounds an Amarr Assault suit can fire. NO OTHER WEAPON HAS AN OVERHEAT MECHANIC AND NOW YOU REMOVED THE ONE SKILL THAT MADE THE AMARR ASSAULT SHINE?!? Second nerf to the Amarr Assault - the +5% to Armor Repair Modules. Yes I know some of you are like "how's that a nerf, that's a major positive thing!" It may be positive for any other suit, but for the Amarr assault WHICH HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LOW SLOTS, this is a passive nerf. You'd have to be a fool to pass up putting a repper on your Assault suit which takes a slot that plates could go - you just lowered the eHP an Amarr Assault suit can get. Yeah I know, you don't HAVE to equip the armor reps, but you'd be a fool not to. CCP why don't you just go ahead and nerf Amarr's CPU and PG as well...just admit it, you all hate the Amarr (minus Wolfman). Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote *+2% to weapon RoF I had to fix that Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2518	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:54:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah....that's.... Yeah. That's pretty disappointing. I guess I'll have to wear a filthy Matari assault suit to maintain my alpha damage. -_- HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1958	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:57:00 - [4] - Quote could mean that it charges up 10% faster...? It actually would mean for the ScR that it can shoot 10% more shots during the same period on a non amarr assault suit. They may tune different weapons' damage profiles as well. We'll see.
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4348	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:57:00 - [5] - Quote Did they seriously remove the heat reduction bonus? Wow, so stupid. Especially with replacing it by armor repair module efficacy. I mean, Amarr suits already get one less module slot that other suits so any bonus to modules is just stupid. Also if the Assault class bonus is rate of fire then that also is stupid since the Amarr's main weapon is a single shot weapon. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3709	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:59:00 - [6] - Quote They should make the RoF bonuses racial. The Combat Rifle for Min Assault, Scrambler for Amarr suits, etc. etc. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Aisha Ctarl Ctarl - Ctarl Empire 2707	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:59:00 - [7] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Did they seriously remove the heat reduction bonus? Wow, so stupid. Especially with replacing it by armor repair module efficacy. I mean, Amarr suits already get one less module slot that other suits so any bonus to modules is just stupid. Also if the Assault class bonus is rate of fire then that also is stupid since the Amarr's main weapon is a single shot weapon. YES THEY REMOVED IT Like what the actual **** CCP Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 814	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:00:00 - [8] - Quote Don't leave out the fact that the Amarr Commando gets the Laser Weaponry bonus. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
The Black Art Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 304	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:01:00 - [9] - Quote Yeah this is dumb. I use a reactive plate currently to squeeze out as much HP as possible, but this'll force me to use a repair mod or have a useless bonus. So I'll have less HP in this low TTK time-period, and my gun will overheat faster. Guess I'll go back to Caldari assault...
Dengru Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 355	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:01:00 - [10] - Quote dumbass aim assist commandos running around doing crazy damage, I can see it now... (>^_^)><(^.^<)

Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 113	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:04:00 - [11] - Quote i highly doubt anybody could fire the scrambler at its max rpm anyway which is about 11 times a second. the only people this would benefit is autofire controller users, more ccp fail logic
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 308	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:15:00 - [12] - Quote Jesus christ CCP, this is so freaking simple but yet you keep messing it up: Amarr = (buffer) armor tankers most low slots least mid slots weapon bonus so we can use or weapons effectively Thats it, it isn't that freaking hard. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1403	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:21:00 - [13] - Quote First off, everything on SISI can change without notice so nothing can be guaranteed. It is a nerf to Amarr weapons. The heat build up bonus was basiclly a free damage mod, for the laser. I have no reason to use my Amarr suit if this change comes through. I DEMAND a respec...I am just joking about the respec. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1403	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:23:00 - [14] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: i highly doubt anybody could fire the scrambler at its max rpm anyway which is about 11 times a second. the only people this would benefit is autofire controller users, more ccp fail logic I will cause the SCR to overheat faster wouldn't it? GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 171	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:25:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Did they seriously remove the heat reduction bonus? Wow, so stupid. Especially with replacing it by armor repair module efficacy. I mean, Amarr suits already get one less module slot that other suits so any bonus to modules is just stupid. Also if the Assault class bonus is rate of fire then that also is stupid since the Amarr's main weapon is a single shot weapon. From IRCGÇª @[CCP]Logibro: [New Assault Suit stats GÇôSNIPPEDGÇô] @[CCP]Logibro: As well as other changes that are not visible yet (such as base HP, slots, PG/CPU, etc.) @[CCP]Logibro: The existance of such changes can not be confirmed or denied at this stage. IMMORTALS; From the Sands to the Stars We fight until we die. Then we fight some more.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 294	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:27:00 - [16] - Quote Aisha, where are you seeing the assault changes? I'd like to see the Caldari changes myself. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1890	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:27:00 - [17] - Quote Uhhhh, can my Gallente suit get this too? Seriously, you got two awesome perks to your suit and you complain? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 114	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:28:00 - [18] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: +5% to weapon ROF +5% to Armor repair modules These are passive nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit! There is no more heat reduction to laser weapons which passively nerfs the amount of SCR rounds an Amarr Assault suit can fire. NO OTHER WEAPON HAS AN OVERHEAT MECHANIC AND NOW YOU REMOVED THE ONE SKILL THAT MADE THE AMARR ASSAULT SHINE?!? Also, the +5% to ROF will mean you can fire the SCR even faster, leading to faster overheat. Second nerf to the Amarr Assault - the +5% to Armor Repair Modules. Yes I know some of you are like "how's that a nerf, that's a major positive thing!" It may be positive for any other suit, but for the Amarr assault WHICH HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LOW SLOTS, this is a passive nerf. You'd have to be a fool to pass up putting a repper on your Assault suit which takes a slot that plates could go - you just lowered the eHP an Amarr Assault suit can get. Yeah I know, you don't HAVE to equip the armor reps, but you'd be a fool not to. CCP why don't you just go ahead and nerf Amarr's CPU and PG as well...just admit it, you all hate the Amarr (minus Wolfman). Woo, undo the calamity that is your mammaries, relax, this all just early data, nothing final, give some time and some proper feedback, I agree, that the new bonus is wrong for the faction it's on, but to be fair, the old bonus was too restrictive for what is suppose to be a highly versatile role, so it needed to change.
The Attorney General 1731	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:29:00 - [19] - Quote Thankfully this info came out before I went for prof 4 on the scrambler and started to get into the assault suit. Now I am sort of stuck with that amarr logi, but it isn't as hard hit as the assault. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 114	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:29:00 - [20] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: i highly doubt anybody could fire the scrambler at its max rpm anyway which is about 11 times a second. the only people this would benefit is autofire controller users, more ccp fail logic I will cause the SCR to overheat faster wouldn't it? only because the the heat reduction bonus has been removed, what good is more rpm if you couldnt reach the old rpm anyway?

Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 114	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:29:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aisha, where are you seeing the assault changes? I'd like to see the Caldari changes myself. Cal doesn't seem to be getting any changes.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7597	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:30:00 - [22] - Quote This is sad. One of the finest bonuses in the game, gone. It synergised perfectly with laser weaponry. I don't even think the SCR was OP with it considering the new rifles. Did you know a boundless CR can break 1000 dps? That's not a paper statistic like it is with the SCR, either - you can tap fast enough to cap out the RoF fairly easily. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7597	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 - [23] - Quote Absoliav wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aisha, where are you seeing the assault changes? I'd like to see the Caldari changes myself. Cal doesn't seem to be getting any changes. Uh, yes it is. 25% shield HP module bonus. 10% RoF bonus. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4355	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:33:00 - [24] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: i highly doubt anybody could fire the scrambler at its max rpm anyway which is about 11 times a second. the only people this would benefit is autofire controller users, more ccp fail logic I will cause the SCR to overheat faster wouldn't it? No, the scrambler rifle works on heat per second, not per shot. If you can pull the trigger faster, you can get more shots off before it over heats. But still, no one can really hit the max ROF unless you are using a modded controller. Saxbrin Shain wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Did they seriously remove the heat reduction bonus? Wow, so stupid. Especially with replacing it by armor repair module efficacy. I mean, Amarr suits already get one less module slot that other suits so any bonus to modules is just stupid. Also if the Assault class bonus is rate of fire then that also is stupid since the Amarr's main weapon is a single shot weapon. From IRCGÇª @[CCP]Logibro: [New Assault Suit stats GÇôSNIPPEDGÇô] @[CCP]Logibro: As well as other changes that are not visible yet (such as base HP, slots, PG/CPU, etc.) @[CCP]Logibro: The existance of such changes can not be confirmed or denied at this stage. That has me excited for Commando changes, need more CPU/PG. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 114	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:39:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Absoliav wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aisha, where are you seeing the assault changes? I'd like to see the Caldari changes myself. Cal doesn't seem to be getting any changes. Uh, yes it is. 25% shield HP module bonus. 10% RoF bonus. Ah, forgot the ROF bonus was for all the roles, I didn't notice the shield was getting buffed from 2%-5% per level, nice!
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:50:00 - [26] - Quote I think we are ignoring the fact that the old Amarr assault was extremely limited to just laser weapons, while it's being advertised as a do "can do anything" role, I understand a lot of you liked it's bonus, but it was still a very limited bonus compared to Cal and Gal's.
Bunny Demon Scions of Athra 55	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:43:00 - [27] - Quote Can someone link the actual thread(s) where all this was mentioned, I saw one earlier but it only really mentioned the logi and sentinal suits Amarr logi ftw :D (Also...ScR is pretty good)
G Torq ALTA B2O 358	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:46:00 - [28] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Also, the +5% to ROF will mean you can fire the SCR even faster, leading to faster overheat. You are aware that heat-buildup is per second, not per bullet, right? Right?? Also, with the +5% RoF, the laser-rifle, the light-weapon with the highest damage-potential, will get an even higher damage-potential ... sigh ... scrubbies. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1531	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:52:00 - [29] - Quote Looks like I'm going Caldari, its really a damn shame that this was even considered. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7873	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:53:00 - [30] - Quote Yup, no heat reduction bonus is a passive nerf. The ROF bonus has no effect at all, its useless. It won't even make you shoot faster since SCR is liited by how fast you can tap R1. AR and RR will be even better while SCR is left in the dust. Double nerf. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+



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