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XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:43:00 -
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Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
244
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:50:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using |
XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:56:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using I am saying that %10 of the player base owns %25 of MH because of an exploit. Yes it works both ways.. I just feel it is time to take some of that land back.
You and I aren't going to agree on this....
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
77
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:16:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using
Okay so you say your 50 districts are set between two timers because that's when your Japanese players are most active, fair enough. So are you genuinely saying that you couldn't field a full team at any timer other than the two that your districts are set to? Or do you use only two timers so that the sheer numbers of bodies to stack against all these timers is pretty much impossible to amass?
PC replaced corp battles, so I don't really see the point in having that many districts if you don't actually use them for corp battles. You leave your districts unlocked and respect for that, but unfortunately the majority of this game is too scared of you (and the lag they associate playing you with), to actually attack you. If you were able to split a few of your districts amongst some other timers you would probably get some more competition. Yeah you're farming a ridiculous amount of ISK, but there's more to Dust than gathering an infinite amount of imaginary currency. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
244
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:23:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using Okay so you say your 50 districts are set between two timers because that's when your Japanese players are most active, fair enough. So are you genuinely saying that you couldn't field a full team at any timer other than the two that your districts are set to? Or do you use only two timers so that the sheer numbers of bodies to stack against all these timers is pretty much impossible to amass? PC replaced corp battles, so I don't really see the point in having that many districts if you don't actually use them for corp battles. You leave your districts unlocked and respect for that, but unfortunately the majority of this game is too scared of you (and the lag they associate playing you with), to actually attack you. If you were able to split a few of your districts amongst some other timers you would probably get some more competition. Yeah you're farming a ridiculous amount of ISK, but there's more to Dust than gathering an infinite amount of imaginary currency. all I'm saying if the 50 district were stacked at a more suitable time people would not be complaining about it plus down time at 11:00 EVE time limits a slot we can put some of our districts |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:23:00 -
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I would wake up at 4am on Sat/Sun to strip them of there districts but no way in hell would I do it on a week day.
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XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
315
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:29:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I would wake up at 4am on Sat/Sun to strip them of there districts but no way in hell would I do it on a week day. It would have to be a sat or sun for me as well... i have a M-F 8am-5pm job... i guess i could take a day off or come down with herpies or something
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day
2268
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:29:00 -
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the playerbase lacks the people to attack nyain at 4am
currently they are unstoppable...until the playerbase grows
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
77
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:33:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote: all I'm saying if the 50 district were stacked at a more suitable time people would not be complaining about it plus down time at 11:00 EVE time limits a slot we can put some of our districts
Yeah I totally understand what you're saying but like I said earlier Ancient Exiles have something like 30 districts that are spread over many different timers. Your players might not be as active as theirs but I find it hard to believe that a corp as powerful as Nyain San, that have a large feeder corp in Nyain Chan, are only active in a 2-hour period. Anyway if you ever get a few later timers I'll look forward to a battle against you |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1009
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:39:00 -
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Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:
I've experienced it. Firsthand. But it's not like Nyain San is causing the lag. It's called having to play a first person shooter over undersea cables.
Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Duh ...
Dude, I am not blaming you for the lag, is not your responsibility nor your fault, but it's the most important factor, nor the freaking crappy timers you got, it's all CCP fault, if they can't fix this at least separate completely the servers one from another, you have really good players, but still is just not room for a fair fight against you
For once join a corp going against your corp and see for yourself the lag in the city when the frame rate drops to 6fps, then try to have a "fair shot" at trying to take those districts.
The lag against Nyain is caused because you're playing on Asian servers. It doesn't matter what side of the fight he's on, he won't see lag, because he's probably also on Asian servers. Take a geography class or something.
You can't separate the servers in New Eden, it would fundamentally remove the point of this game being this game. As it is, public matches run separately for different regions, but it's impossible to do for matches that affect the landscape of New Eden. One Universe, One War doesn't work... if it's not one universe.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
245
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:52:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote: I've experienced it. Firsthand. But it's not like Nyain San is causing the lag. It's called having to play a first person shooter over undersea cables. Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Duh ...
Dude, I am not blaming you for the lag, is not your responsibility nor your fault, but it's the most important factor, nor the freaking crappy timers you got, it's all CCP fault, if they can't fix this at least separate completely the servers one from another, you have really good players, but still is just not room for a fair fight against you
For once join a corp going against your corp and see for yourself the lag in the city when the frame rate drops to 6fps, then try to have a "fair shot" at trying to take those districts. The lag against Nyain is caused because you're playing on Asian servers. It doesn't matter what side of the fight he's on, he won't see lag, because he's probably also on Asian servers. Take a geography class or something. You can't separate the servers in New Eden, it would fundamentally remove the point of this game being this game. As it is, public matches run separately for different regions, but it's impossible to do for matches that affect the landscape of New Eden. One Universe, One War doesn't work... if it's not one universe. I live in the USA |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
197
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:57:00 -
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I don't speak for my corp or my alliance, but I'd sure be happy to stay up to try and take back some of those districts. |
XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
316
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:00:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I don't speak for my corp or my alliance, but I'd sure be happy to stay up to try and take back some of those districts. We know you are blue with AE DDB and NS.. i won't fault you for it
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
18
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote: I've experienced it. Firsthand. But it's not like Nyain San is causing the lag. It's called having to play a first person shooter over undersea cables. Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Duh ...
Dude, I am not blaming you for the lag, is not your responsibility nor your fault, but it's the most important factor, nor the freaking crappy timers you got, it's all CCP fault, if they can't fix this at least separate completely the servers one from another, you have really good players, but still is just not room for a fair fight against you
For once join a corp going against your corp and see for yourself the lag in the city when the frame rate drops to 6fps, then try to have a "fair shot" at trying to take those districts. The lag against Nyain is caused because you're playing on Asian servers. It doesn't matter what side of the fight he's on, he won't see lag, because he's probably also on Asian servers. Take a geography class or something. You can't separate the servers in New Eden, it would fundamentally remove the point of this game being this game. As it is, public matches run separately for different regions, but it's impossible to do for matches that affect the landscape of New Eden. One Universe, One War doesn't work... if it's not one universe.
finally someone got the first point. the pc battle, will use the server region of the defender side.
and the second point is, otaku.....it is hard to fight against otakus, they are cats sleep in the daylight......
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1802
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:21:00 -
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Jotun Izalaru wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:[quote=Mr Machine Guns] I really hope CCP implements something to prevent your corporation from abusing PC like this. Yes you earned those districts fair and square, but you didn't earn the right to turn PC into your own private ISK farm. It's ******* shocking that you try to justify this bull-****.
calm down you spaz, nyain didn't invent the spacial limitations of internet connections crossing the entire globe and it isn't their responsibility to fix it Coming from a corp who has glitched dust bad enough to the point where CCP had to put counter measures in to prevent your BS.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3798
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:26:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view?
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1802
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:37:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view? Nyain has an advantage that is shown here. CCP's server connections benefit them and there is really nothing anyone-including them-can do about it.
So about those vehicle locks...
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XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
316
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Posted - 2014.01.09 15:27:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view? Nyain has an advantage that is shown here. CCP's server connections benefit them and there is really nothing anyone-including them-can do about it. There is... but the first rule of LAG is... you don't speak of LAG.
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
245
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Posted - 2014.01.09 16:16:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view?
Yes i did just because its the view point of one person in Nyain does not mean that's how everyone experiences pc in our corp |
XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
320
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:08:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view? Yes i did just because its the view point of one person in Nyain does not mean that's how everyone experiences pc in our corp It is also the viewpoint of one person on the opposite side... maybe the lag for others was worse.
Argument= invalid
Please try again!
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
245
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:20:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view? Yes i did just because its the view point of one person in Nyain does not mean that's how everyone experiences pc in our corp It is also the viewpoint of one person on the opposite side... maybe the lag for others was worse. Argument= invalid Please try again! not really it doesn't prove anything at all first its a pc anything goes in them, plus its the view point of two people on opposite teams it proves nothing because it could of been better or worse for anybody else in that game
plus i can show video when there is no lag in pc against Nyain |
XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
320
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:25:00 -
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Exactly.. so the opposite is also true... it could be better.. it could be worse.. And to say that video proof of lag from one side to the other doesn't prove anything is just short sighted and kinda homerish. The whole discussion has been about PC which is why the video is VERY valid.
"A video of a man killing someone doesn't prove anything!"
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Alabaster Shinho
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2014.01.10 03:12:00 -
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You want to take down a corp in Dust? DO it the EVE way. Hire a corp in dust to infiltrate Nyain and take them down from the inside. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Ave atque Vale.
1448
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Posted - 2014.01.10 12:04:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:
not really it doesn't prove anything at all first its a pc anything goes in them, plus its the view point of two people on opposite teams it proves nothing because it could of been better or worse for anybody else in that game
plus i can show video when there is no lag in pc against Nyain
Cannot have proves, you're right, but in that PC, the guy who was recording was actually having a good time compared to all the others.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
326
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:19:00 -
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I get no lag and can stay up whenever
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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molon labe. Public Disorder.
0
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Posted - 2014.01.12 01:54:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I don't speak for my corp or my alliance, but I'd sure be happy to stay up to try and take back some of those districts. I would totally help as well.. |
Joeboa
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2014.01.12 12:55:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:You realize the lag will be so bad they would be able to field the same team for all their timers ;) There is a trick to getting servers if this happens hit me up
I believe that no one knows what he's talking about more than this man when it comes to getting the server, except for a dev of course, lol. Yeh, the lag goes both ways. It's a non-issue if you learn to adapt. |
Joeboa
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2014.01.12 13:00:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Nyan san dosent deserve those districts they are some of the most unloyal players in the game. They have alliance hopped to whoever was winning so they dont have to lose there districts. They purely exist because no one wants to wake up that early to fight lag. They should commit seppuku because they have no honor.
Unloyal? Oh! Like how Nyain screwed their allies in the TSOLE war? Now that you mention it, they were most likely protecting their relations with TSOLE only because they're one of the only other forces who can attack them on their timers, lol. Very enlightening. |
RemingtonBeaver
molon labe. Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2014.01.12 13:25:00 -
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Does anyone know a friendly Nyain player that could help me with my Japanese? Spent two years learning it and I'm still terrible. I figured this would be the best place to check for Nyain players that speak english. You can just message me in game. Thanks! |
Joeboa
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
38
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Posted - 2014.01.14 07:30:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Egypt Musk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:You realize the lag will be so bad they would be able to field the same team for all their timers ;) There is a trick to getting servers if this happens hit me up goodluck getting into pc. AE will be waiting to take u out as soon as u do. WTF is this? so anon crumbles from not being able to carry their own weight and now you hate on your ex-alliance mates? for what? you know damn well this isn't true. why would you try to portray us in that light? we we're friends and allies and the way you guys are acting towards us is frankly volatile and disgusting. i've heard enough here.
I agree with Rampage quite heavily here, actually. AE were great allies when I was with ANON and I think they have done more for new corporations getting into PC than anyone else has. When TP was in control they had nearly everyone in PC in their influence in one way or another. It felt like you had to pay TP a tribute fee for being in PC. I never see that happening with AE. Even though we wouldn't be able to attack Nyain San without retaliation from DDB and AE, there are still many other districts owned by alliances and individual corps not associated to AE as far as I can tell. In fact, if they aren't the ones attacking Renegade then they probably deserve to lose some districts to newcomers, especially when many of those corps are more than willing to stomp newcomers into the ground when they have the chance. It's not that I like everyone in AE or think that an alliance of that size doesn't deserve a large war every now and then. That's what this game is all about. I just disagree with this particular criticism. |
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