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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:45:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:The problem is all of their hubs and the timers. This means you need lots of players to wake up at 5AM AND launch off of districts in order to have enough clones to take the district. The lag is not that bad if you know what you are doing. Just control their tanks and play aggressive, but disciplined. So they really thought that through I'm guessing AE and Nyain San planned this.....have all their districts on different timers (Nyain San takes 4-5 AM, and AE takes other times) so that they can counter any attack at any time of day, and so that they'll always have someone to fight the attacks they launch.
sorry most of our players are Japanese so would it make sense to put our timer when the majority of our players are on, coming from a corp that locks all their district please |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:50:00 -
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one more thing why does HS want to take us down it was our alliance that gave them a PFC district after they lost theirs |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:52:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:The problem is all of their hubs and the timers. This means you need lots of players to wake up at 5AM AND launch off of districts in order to have enough clones to take the district. The lag is not that bad if you know what you are doing. Just control their tanks and play aggressive, but disciplined. So they really thought that through I'm guessing AE and Nyain San planned this.....have all their districts on different timers (Nyain San takes 4-5 AM, and AE takes other times) so that they can counter any attack at any time of day, and so that they'll always have someone to fight the attacks they launch. They aren't really diicks, Patrick. Nyain is just using the timers to their advantage along with downtime with the way it affects re-ups. They do have an unfair advantage in connection, but it is just a more extreme version of any other PC connection scenario. AE has become an entire blue donut and they are frankly just bored. They have fenced in a ton of land in MH when combined with Renegade and the other corps that are left are just too weak for them to bother with. This is more an issue with player morals and ethics than anything. Where is the fun in going to get easy paychecks if there isn't any challenges? Some people (including CCP) need to show that they have a heart, some nuts, and a bit of intelligence. MH look a whole lot different if that were true. DDB is... well? I dunno what to tell you.
but down time also affect us as well because thats during our Japanese players prime time so would you think we would put some times on the downtime if there wasn't one?? so pretty much we have fewer time slots to put our district on |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:55:00 -
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the people that complain about our timers, is it fair when you set BS timers for our Japanese players?? |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 03:04:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:The problem is all of their hubs and the timers. This means you need lots of players to wake up at 5AM AND launch off of districts in order to have enough clones to take the district. The lag is not that bad if you know what you are doing. Just control their tanks and play aggressive, but disciplined. So they really thought that through I'm guessing AE and Nyain San planned this.....have all their districts on different timers (Nyain San takes 4-5 AM, and AE takes other times) so that they can counter any attack at any time of day, and so that they'll always have someone to fight the attacks they launch. They aren't really diicks, Patrick. Nyain is just using the timers to their advantage along with downtime with the way it affects re-ups. They do have an unfair advantage in connection, but it is just a more extreme version of any other PC connection scenario. AE has become an entire blue donut and they are frankly just bored. They have fenced in a ton of land in MH when combined with Renegade and the other corps that are left are just too weak for them to bother with. This is more an issue with player morals and ethics than anything. Where is the fun in going to get easy paychecks if there isn't any challenges? Some people (including CCP) need to show that they have a heart, some nuts, and a bit of intelligence. MH look a whole lot different if that were true. DDB is... well? I dunno what to tell you. but down time also affect us as well because thats during our Japanese players prime time so would you think we would put some times on the downtime if there wasn't one?? so pretty much we have fewer time slots to put our district on It is what it is. CCP has the downtime there for Shanghai to do their maintenance or whatever. Nyain uses it jut as any other corp would. CCP's intercontinental connections blow. It is what it is. This benefits Nyain as you get the server or whatever. It's like like fighting a team at their home field. Yeah it sucks, but that;s what the home team gets. Fighting other US corps is like fighting at a neutral sight. You never know who will have the advantage.
i know i just get tired of people on here complaining about our timers, i mean how do you think we got most of our district?? we attacked corps with unfair timers for our Japanese players, people need to realize that most of corps timers are BS for most of our players, and you never hear us QQ about it |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 03:15:00 -
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Cyncia Gaess wrote:Dear Cats get their districts from UTC22-04timezone by never sleep, so if we want the districts back, we should do like them, fight in the night to the morning.....
It's fair, maybe.
i do not know why you want to help take down Nyain, after we gave a few districts |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:09:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Quote:i know i just get tired of people on here complaining about our timers, i mean how do you think we got most of our district?? we attacked corps with unfair timers for our Japanese players, people need to realize that most of corps timers are BS for most of our players, and you never hear us say anything about it How do you keep most of your districts is the real question. Is it because Nyain San are so good at gun game?? Or is it because they are on a crap timer? (from an American perspective) I have no issue at all with them setting timers to what they feel is best for them. But when damn near 25% of MH or 55 districts are sitting with a corp that has like just over 100 players and about 200 in their feeder... it is a little strange don't you think? You can't honestly sit here and think that the reason you have that much land is because your corp is the best in the game today. Who is there to challenge NS on a daily basis? No one. Who do they fight on a daily basis? Themselves and anyone still awake in US or EU which is maybe 10% of the non asian player base. Let me just say that I have nothing against Nyain San other than they own more than what they should be able to hold because of a timer issue. I just feel it is time to get some of that land back.
Whats strange about it didn't Nyain earn the district we have blame CCP for only having 245 district in a game , and to your thing about DDB and AE having no idea why we are in alliance with them is just lol |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:47:00 -
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sL1p-k-NOT wrote:Bullshit guys......everyone from you would set the same timers if you see thats good for you....not? I think yes. And thats NS laggs hard is not the fauld from NS thats CCP problem....
Stop qq.....attack them like FEC or let it be guys
and its not like we lock are district like some other corps do |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:23:00 -
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Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:sL1p-k-NOT wrote:Bullshit guys......everyone from you would set the same timers if you see thats good for you....not? I think yes. And thats NS laggs hard is not the fauld from NS thats CCP problem....
Stop qq.....attack them like FEC or let it be guys and its not like we lock are district like some other corps do Side note: Boss mode respect for this, guys. I mean, it's not that you really need to lock districts, since nobody bothers trying to take them, but I'm glad there's a few corps that still leave their districts online. So young and naive, check the lag comparison in this video, This is 99% of all of the Nyan Battles
lol you do realize thats a pc battle |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 18:45:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:sL1p-k-NOT wrote:Bullshit guys......everyone from you would set the same timers if you see thats good for you....not? I think yes. And thats NS laggs hard is not the fauld from NS thats CCP problem....
Stop qq.....attack them like FEC or let it be guys and its not like we lock are district like some other corps do You don't have to... that is the point of all this... Machine gun... I am not coming after you or NS personally.. but just trying to say that you own to much land for what your corp is worth because of faulty game mechanics on CCP's part. Is it NS fault for playing the game how it should be and how 99% of people would play it if they had the same capability? NO... You claiming that your corp is somehow high and mighty because you don't lock districts is LOLZ.. you don't HAVE TO because of game mech. Can you honestly tell me that ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL... we were all on the same timer and it just magically appeared that we all played at 5pm all around the world... that NS would hold 55 districts? Even if you fanned your timers out you don't have enough people to hold that much.
heres the thing first people complain about our timers then the fact we stacked two timers with all our districts but i guarantee if it was a normal time for you. you wouldn't be QQ on the forums about, we don't complain about BS timers for our Japanese players they just get on and take one at a time, not a massive attack that is coming for our alliance hoping that we no show because of the numerous defends we have. |
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:31:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:sL1p-k-NOT wrote:Bullshit guys......everyone from you would set the same timers if you see thats good for you....not? I think yes. And thats NS laggs hard is not the fauld from NS thats CCP problem....
Stop qq.....attack them like FEC or let it be guys and its not like we lock are district like some other corps do You don't have to... that is the point of all this... Machine gun... I am not coming after you or NS personally.. but just trying to say that you own to much land for what your corp is worth because of faulty game mechanics on CCP's part. Is it NS fault for playing the game how it should be and how 99% of people would play it if they had the same capability? NO... You claiming that your corp is somehow high and mighty because you don't lock districts is LOLZ.. you don't HAVE TO because of game mech. Can you honestly tell me that ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL... we were all on the same timer and it just magically appeared that we all played at 5pm all around the world... that NS would hold 55 districts? Even if you fanned your timers out you don't have enough people to hold that much. heres the thing first people complain about our timers then the fact we stacked two timers with all our districts but i guarantee if it was a normal time for you. you wouldn't be QQ on the forums about, we don't complain about BS timers for our Japanese players they just get on and take one at a time, not a massive attack that is coming for our alliance hoping that we no show because of the numerous defends we have. No we wouldn't be "qqing" about it because you wouldnt hold 55 districts.. the reason you hold the districts is the timers, not the size or player ability within your corp... period end of story. A massive attack on all districts on YOUR timers would prove this. The fact is that you have gotten to big for your britches as my grandmother would say.
the only reason why you have one is because no big corps attack PFC trust me a 16 man team of Nyain San/Chan would beat a 16 man HS/Hell's Gate Edit: you are QQ over something that's not our fault you can't blame our timers when they are in the majority of our players prime playing time, also down time cuts into places where we can put or district timers as well |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:50:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:23:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Have I ever said anywhere that HS could take on NS by ourselves? Hell no... I am not that dumb.
I know NS has some great players... the fact is that you hold more land than those players can defend and you know it. Hence the attempted bash on my corp.
I have said this from the start of the post... NS is a great corp that has used CCP's lack of intelligence to its advantage.. which any corp WOULD DO THE SAME. The only thing I disagree with is 25% of MH being held by a corp because of those exploits. All I came here to do was get a feel from the NON NS players if a FEC style attack would work or not. It looks like about 75% of people agree with me.
Do I think this attack will happen? NO... Why? Because I am not invested enough and I haven't been here long enough to gain the contacts needed to pull something like this off... Are there others on these forums that could do it.. YES... would I participate... HELL YES.
It is all just a dream to me to watch NS go from 55 districts down to the 15 or so they actually deserve... we can all dream can't we.
so based on what you are saying the corps that have a unfair timer for our japanese players are using the same exploit that you say we are using Okay so you say your 50 districts are set between two timers because that's when your Japanese players are most active, fair enough. So are you genuinely saying that you couldn't field a full team at any timer other than the two that your districts are set to? Or do you use only two timers so that the sheer numbers of bodies to stack against all these timers is pretty much impossible to amass? PC replaced corp battles, so I don't really see the point in having that many districts if you don't actually use them for corp battles. You leave your districts unlocked and respect for that, but unfortunately the majority of this game is too scared of you (and the lag they associate playing you with), to actually attack you. If you were able to split a few of your districts amongst some other timers you would probably get some more competition. Yeah you're farming a ridiculous amount of ISK, but there's more to Dust than gathering an infinite amount of imaginary currency. all I'm saying if the 50 district were stacked at a more suitable time people would not be complaining about it plus down time at 11:00 EVE time limits a slot we can put some of our districts |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
245
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:52:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote: I've experienced it. Firsthand. But it's not like Nyain San is causing the lag. It's called having to play a first person shooter over undersea cables. Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Duh ...
Dude, I am not blaming you for the lag, is not your responsibility nor your fault, but it's the most important factor, nor the freaking crappy timers you got, it's all CCP fault, if they can't fix this at least separate completely the servers one from another, you have really good players, but still is just not room for a fair fight against you
For once join a corp going against your corp and see for yourself the lag in the city when the frame rate drops to 6fps, then try to have a "fair shot" at trying to take those districts. The lag against Nyain is caused because you're playing on Asian servers. It doesn't matter what side of the fight he's on, he won't see lag, because he's probably also on Asian servers. Take a geography class or something. You can't separate the servers in New Eden, it would fundamentally remove the point of this game being this game. As it is, public matches run separately for different regions, but it's impossible to do for matches that affect the landscape of New Eden. One Universe, One War doesn't work... if it's not one universe. I live in the USA |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
245
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Posted - 2014.01.09 16:16:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view?
Yes i did just because its the view point of one person in Nyain does not mean that's how everyone experiences pc in our corp |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:20:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:lol you do realize thats a pc battle Did you even watch the Nyain San point of view and compare it to the Maphia Clan point of view? Yes i did just because its the view point of one person in Nyain does not mean that's how everyone experiences pc in our corp It is also the viewpoint of one person on the opposite side... maybe the lag for others was worse. Argument= invalid Please try again! not really it doesn't prove anything at all first its a pc anything goes in them, plus its the view point of two people on opposite teams it proves nothing because it could of been better or worse for anybody else in that game
plus i can show video when there is no lag in pc against Nyain |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:27:00 -
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This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOo8Y5kAuJ4
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