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Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1386	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:19:00 - [1] - Quote Equalize logi and assault slot count and CPU/PG Now assaults will be more powerful, but will still rely on logis to carry them through extended engagements. If that does not work, we can work from there, but it is a good start. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 836	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:24:00 - [2] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Equalize logi and assault slot count and CPU/PG Now assaults will be more powerful, but will still rely on logis to carry them through extended engagements. If that does not work, we can work from there, but it is a good start. Caldari assault here I come STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5260	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:29:00 - [3] - Quote So, we increase the power of assaults. What about scouts and heavies? They will now be comparitively weaker. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 25	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:34:00 - [4] - Quote I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1144	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:38:00 - [5] - Quote give us scouts the same pg cpu and slot count i can go with this. Words cannot describe the sadness i feel because Zero No Tsukaima is over ;_; the feels...THE FEELS...
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 430	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:38:00 - [6] - Quote So would you buff the heavy suit also thanks We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 61	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:39:00 - [7] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1386	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:48:00 - [8] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry. no. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 25	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:52:00 - [9] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry. Billshut, with the exception of the amarrlogi, lack of a sidearm slot frees up that CPU/PG
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 346	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:53:00 - [10] - Quote This again? Hey look over there ---> a tank YouTube 30D Recruiting

Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1387	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:55:00 - [11] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: This again? Hey look over there ---> a tank look over here- 2x dmg mod particle cannon Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1282	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:56:00 - [12] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry. Billshut, with the exception of the amarrlogi, lack of a sidearm slot frees up that CPU/PG 3-4 equipment use much more CPU/PG than any sidearm, unless the sidearm is prototype, and the 3-4 equipment are all compact hives. So, no, the lack of a sidearm does not free up the excess resources. Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // PLASMA CANNONS ARE REALLY* BAD NOW, FIX THEM!*
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2543	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:00:00 - [13] - Quote You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Sirys Lyons Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:02:00 - [14] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. Because logistics need to have enough tank to survive in with the rest of the front lines...and they sure can't do that by speed tanking...and they need to carry the equipment...while only relying on a primary weapon and grenades for defense. Unless, of course, you'd prefer all those nano-hives/drop uplinks be put down as far from the actual scene of battle as possible...how useful. Tankless Logistics makes as much sense as a turret-less tank.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2973	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:07:00 - [15] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. Because of our equipment. My Repair Tool has the same CPU/PG as an ADV weapon. Try fitting an Ishukone Guaged Nanohive, Lai Dai Flux Repair Tool, Wirykomi Nanite Injector, and an Imperial Flux Drop Uplink on your Assault suit and get back to me on that. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 25	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:07:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry. Billshut, with the exception of the amarrlogi, lack of a sidearm slot frees up that CPU/PG 3-4 equipment use much more CPU/PG than any sidearm, unless the sidearm is prototype, and the 3-4 equipment are all compact hives. So, no, the lack of a sidearm does not free up the excess resources. Really? 3-4, well since every suit come with an eq slot let's not count that, so it's actually is 2-3, and one sidearm can pay for 2 pieces of equipment. That fourth piece of equipment is just being greedy, i dunno you should try budgeting maybe you could roll without that 3rd complex damage mod or without a top shelf primary.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2973	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:09:00 - [17] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarrantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2973	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:11:00 - [18] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: 3-4 equipment use much more CPU/PG than any sidearm, unless the sidearm is prototype, and the 3-4 equipment are all compact hives. So, no, the lack of a sidearm does not free up the excess resources. Even at ADV 3-4 Equipment slots would still cost much more CPU/PG than any Light Weapon & Sidearm combo combined Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2973	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:15:00 - [19] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Really? 3-4, well since every suit come with an eq slot let's not count that, so it's actually is 2-3, and one sidearm can pay for 2 pieces of equipment. That fourth piece of equipment is just being greedy, i dunno you should try budgeting maybe you could roll without that 3rd complex damage mod or without a top shelf primary. What sidearm are you using? If your sidearm can pay for two equipment slots then you must be the $#!ttiest logi I have ever heard of. I run an ADV weapon and still have trouble fitting all PRO equipment on my Logi suits. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 495	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:15:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarrantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. Well this would at least make you wait until the end of battle to heal and revive. You're a medic/support running in the middle of the fight...you shouldn't be able to tank more damage than the actual soldiers.

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1939	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:15:00 - [21] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Equalize logi and assault slot count and CPU/PG Now assaults will be more powerful, but will still rely on logis to carry them through extended engagements. If that does not work, we can work from there, but it is a good start. I like this... Give Scouts 80% the PG/CPU of the same races assault Give Heavies 150% the PG/CPU of the same race's assault Give Commandos 130% of the same race's assault A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2543	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:16:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarrantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. .....The base health on the Minlogi is only a slight bit higher than scouts, does that discourage Minlogi's? No, it doesn't, you should rethink that argument. People would still brick-tank the logi suits, but the end-result would be less health that what we currently have. Also, since light suits get less CPU/PG and less slots than the Med frames, overall it would be a nerf in the correct direction. Less combat power, more tactical power. No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1940	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:25:00 - [23] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Atiim wrote: Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarrantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. .....The base health on the Minlogi is only a slight bit higher than scouts, does that discourage Minlogi's? No, it doesn't, you should rethink that argument. People would still brick-tank the logi suits, but the end-result would be less health that what we currently have. Also, since light suits get less CPU/PG and less slots than the Med frames, overall it would be a nerf in the correct direction. Less combat power, more tactical power. Why not improve the Assault Logis are Good Heavies are Good Scouts are Sucky Assaults are Sucky 2 broke 2 effective lets just make 4 of them effective not 3 of them broke 1 effective A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2973	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:28:00 - [24] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Atiim wrote: Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. .....The base health on the Minlogi is only a slight bit higher than scouts, does that discourage Minlogi's? No, it doesn't, you should rethink that argument. People would still brick-tank the logi suits, but the end-result would be less health that what we currently have. Also, since light suits get less CPU/PG and less slots than the Med frames, overall it would be a nerf in the correct direction. Less combat power, more tactical power. Why would it discourage them? Nobody is dumb enough to run around with base HP. I don't fancy forcing Logis to play the role of Scouts. Why would a Combat Medic be hiding around in the shadows hoping that they don't aren't graced by the one of the ever so potent rifles? You can't brick tank anything when you have the CPU/PG of a Starter Fit, while having low amounts of slots. Making Logis a Scout is a terrible idea. Do you really want to force people to play as one of the most terribly underpowered roles this game has ever seen? That's a complete step backwards. I vote for nerfing CPU/PG to all hell, but giving logis an extreme fitting reduction to equipment. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 25	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:29:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Really? 3-4, well since every suit come with an eq slot let's not count that, so it's actually is 2-3, and one sidearm can pay for 2 pieces of equipment. That fourth piece of equipment is just being greedy, i dunno you should try budgeting maybe you could roll without that 3rd complex damage mod or without a top shelf primary. What sidearm are you using? If your sidearm can pay for two equipment slots then you must be the $#!ttiest logi I have ever heard of. I run an ADV weapon and still have trouble fitting all PRO equipment on my Logi suits. Six kin repair tool and an ADV injector, they don't have to be all PRO eq. to be used just as effectively, budget bro.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2017	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:46:00 - [26] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. Because assault don't have to fit proto equips. Aside from min logi's assault can get better tank/gank with a better move speed and stamina. When allotek hives cost 1/2 of the 88 they are now (roughly 1/5 of a fully specced logi's cpu) and 16 pg (roughly 1/6 of pg) then you can nerf the cpu/pg. Logi's and assaults are actually pretty damn balanced atm. Assaults kill me just fine, and they transition to the 2nd and 3rd kill much better due to the bonus's given to assaults (faster for longer, shorter shield regen time, and sidearms). Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2017	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:47:00 - [27] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: give us scouts the same pg cpu and slot count i can go with this. Scouts just need a slight cpu/pg buff and one more equip slot. I know scouts that use advanced and maintain 5 kdr's...it's not the toughest thing in the world, although I say this with the recognition I myself have never done it, only watched multiple others succeed. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2017	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:48:00 - [28] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: So would you buff the heavy suit also thanks Heavies are super awesome atm, imo. Don't buff or nerf suits till they implement the new system of suit bonuses they've been long preaching about. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2543	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:49:00 - [29] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Atiim wrote: Logi Bro wrote: You could also make the logi a light suit. That would drive assault minded players away like crazy. While I do enjoy running Scouts, I can guarrantee that making Logis a Light Frame is a terrible idea. What happens when you need to rep someone in a gunfight? You'd last about .25 seconds. .....The base health on the Minlogi is only a slight bit higher than scouts, does that discourage Minlogi's? No, it doesn't, you should rethink that argument. People would still brick-tank the logi suits, but the end-result would be less health that what we currently have. Also, since light suits get less CPU/PG and less slots than the Med frames, overall it would be a nerf in the correct direction. Less combat power, more tactical power. Why not improve the Assault Logis are Good Heavies are Good Scouts are Sucky Assaults are Sucky 2 broke 2 effective lets just make 4 of them effective not 3 of them broke 1 effective Correction: Heavies are good Assaults are good Scouts suck Logi's are VERY good If you buff scouts and assaults, all you get is 2 very good suits, and 2 OK suits that nobody will use in favor of the two very good suits. Med frame 514 anyone? No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2018	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:51:00 - [30] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I'm up for cutting CPU/PG on logi suits, I don't understand why they're given more to begin with but you lost me at buffing assault suits not that I'm complaining. More CPU/PG for all the equipment we carry. Billshut, with the exception of the amarrlogi, lack of a sidearm slot frees up that CPU/PG Proto link = 72 cpu. that's one proto equip...name a sidearm that's going to let me free up 72 cpu. oh yeah...we hae at least 3 equip slots... Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought



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