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ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 1947	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:02:00 - [1] - Quote http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3577	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:06:00 - [2] - Quote ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. ewwwwwwwwwwwwww AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:09:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. Tripwire President John Gibson
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 659	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:30:00 - [4] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Quote: The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. Tripwire President John Gibson Spot on. I know there is much hate flung at our aim assist but it's not nearly as serious as BF4 or COD. Admittedly it gives your weapon some stickiness against targets but frankly it's broken very easily by the shooter or targets movements. I also bet that if you ask any varsity shooters in Dust they would tell you they have no problem going 20/2 vs folks with aim assist. If you think aim assist will carry you to a positive KDR in Dust...I can't see it.
ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 1947	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:39:00 - [5] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Bethhy wrote: Quote: The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. Tripwire President John Gibson Spot on. I know there is much hate flung at our aim assist but it's not nearly as serious as BF4 or COD. Admittedly it gives your weapon some stickiness against targets but frankly it's broken very easily by the shooter or targets movements. I also bet that if you ask any varsity shooters in Dust they would tell you they have no problem going 20/2 vs folks with aim assist. If you think aim assist will carry you to a positive KDR in Dust...I can't see it. that leads me to wonder why i did 58/14 on my last BF3 rush(300%). i don't remember the weapon, some russian LMG with 46 rounds, got 8 knife kills. so bad players since i only 4 melee ribbons in bf3. nooooooooo i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player,e weapon, some russian LMG with 46 rounds, got 8 knife kills. so bad players since i only 4 melee ribbons in bf3. nooooooooo i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, nooooooooo i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player. there, that proof its i am not bad player Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:55:00 - [6] - Quote Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console.
ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 1947	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:01:00 - [7] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. thanks i was kindof hinting at that. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
Rusty Shallows 666	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:14:00 - [8] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. There was some impossible strafe dodging & aiming going on in Chrome. But that's a whole other topic. In my Heavy suit I never noticed Aim-Assist. Use of cover at times limited incoming fire and when in the open the suit was slow enough evasion wasn't that hard to overcome. The legitimately good players (& the input cheaters) can maintain sustained headshots which against heavy frames is better than any AA. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 628	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:30:00 - [9] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. There was some impossible strafe dodging & aiming going on in Chrome. But that's a whole other topic. In my Heavy suit I never noticed Aim-Assist. Use of cover at times limited incoming fire and when in the open the suit was slow enough evasion wasn't that hard to overcome. The legitimately good players (& the input cheaters) can maintain sustained headshots which against heavy frames is better than any AA. I never once saw the aiming in Chromosome as impossible. I saw it as Challenging, rewarding... engaging... edge of the seat butt clenching gun fights, anywhere and everywhere against everyone. Scout's where a challenge and one of the most rewarding of all engagements. Fighting a 30 second++++ sometimes 1 minute against Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane was some of the most fondest memories I have made in this game. Why I tip my hat to them in every top 10 Merc's of DUST lists I make. Heavies where lethal and took approach and plan at how you came at them to even stand a chance. Hit registry was just as good as it is now... No Aim assist Crutch blowing up hitboxes.. or causing bullets to magnetise or w/e every Vet is experiencing with bullets following targets or "Homing" in... Right now Aim assist is not something that hinders, its something used and abused, and is forced upon the competitive players or ones who truly understand the word "scrub" in games, and worse off...in majority don't want it. It has NOT helped new players in anyway other then putting a big band aid on hit detection for Uprising 1.4-1.6 after fixes from 1.0-1.3 where un successful... and over all DUST has existed LONGER without AA, then it has existed WITH IT. a feature that has hurt DUST more then it has ever helped... Worse thing from my personal aspirations of making DUST appeal to my long time FPS friends... AA is such a polarizing issue in the FPS community that it will actually make people quit and never look back until it's gone. But Hey it's in every FPS in consol history since like.....ever.... right? wait.. Except Doom, Golden eye, Perfect Dark, Soccom, MAG, CS:GO, KZ:SF, DUST EST Uprising 1.4....etcx200
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 640	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:40:00 - [10] - Quote ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. If you dont like it then turn it off. Man you show offs are annoying.

ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 1947	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:45:00 - [11] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. If you dont like it then turn it off. Man you show offs are annoying. you can't turn it off for everyone... Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
Rusty Shallows 667	Posted - 2014.01.02 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. There was some impossible strafe dodging & aiming going on in Chrome. But that's a whole other topic. In my Heavy suit I never noticed Aim-Assist. Use of cover at times limited incoming fire and when in the open the suit was slow enough evasion wasn't that hard to overcome. The legitimately good players (& the input cheaters) can maintain sustained headshots which against heavy frames is better than any AA. I never once saw the aiming in Chromosome as impossible. I saw it as Challenging, rewarding... engaging... edge of the seat butt clenching gun fights, anywhere and everywhere against everyone. Scout's where a challenge and one of the most rewarding of all engagements. Fighting a 30 second++++ sometimes 1 minute against Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane was some of the most fondest memories I have made in this game. Why I tip my hat to them in every top 10 Merc's of DUST lists I make. Heavies where lethal and took approach and plan at how you came at them to even stand a chance. Hit registry was just as good as it is now... No Aim assist Crutch blowing up hitboxes.. or causing bullets to magnetise or w/e every Vet is experiencing with bullets following targets or "Homing" in... Right now Aim assist is not something that hinders, its something used and abused, and is forced upon the competitive players or ones who truly understand the word "scrub" in games, and worse off...in majority don't want it. It has NOT helped new players in anyway other then putting a big band aid on hit detection for Uprising 1.4-1.6 after fixes from 1.0-1.3 where un successful... and over all DUST has existed LONGER without AA, then it has existed WITH IT. a feature that has hurt DUST more then it has ever helped... Worse thing from my personal aspirations of making DUST appeal to my long time FPS friends... AA is such a polarizing issue in the FPS community that it will actually make people quit and never look back until it's gone. But Hey it's in every FPS in consol history since like.....ever.... right? wait.. Except Doom, Golden eye, Perfect Dark, Soccom, MAG, CS:GO, KZ:SF, DUST EST Uprising 1.4....etcx200 Chrome had some terrible hit detection. I got the drop on a shotgun scout with my HMG on what was then a new map, he starred to jinky back and forth in a manner that is impossible with a joy stick. While ignoring all my DPS he casually three shotted me. My favorite HD story was a perfectly timed flux on a shotgunner about to cross a bridge. As his shields dropped my Toxin SMG was unloading somehow doing no (or negligible) damage. Charging across he three shotted me. My HWS was at 3 or 4 and SAS 5. In both cases I was better positioned and prepared only to magically lose thanks entirely to game bugs. The glitch-fest and game-input cheats of Chrome are gone and I don't miss it. Hit Detection has improved significantly with Uprising. While my HMG performance has had ups and downs now I can have good games whereas in Chromosome nearly breaking even was an excellent match. The only downside that immediately comes to mind is the fixes have indirectly nerfed the hell out of scouts and light frames. As previously stated AA hasn't changed the game one bit for my heavy frame, good or ill. So if the Devs drop it I won't notice. From my perspective it makes people who get angry over the topic look crazy. I'm sure there is an issue(s) causing problems but they are invisible to me. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 634	Posted - 2014.01.02 03:45:00 - [13] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Bethhy wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. There was some impossible strafe dodging & aiming going on in Chrome. But that's a whole other topic. In my Heavy suit I never noticed Aim-Assist. Use of cover at times limited incoming fire and when in the open the suit was slow enough evasion wasn't that hard to overcome. The legitimately good players (& the input cheaters) can maintain sustained headshots which against heavy frames is better than any AA. I never once saw the aiming in Chromosome as impossible. I saw it as Challenging, rewarding... engaging... edge of the seat butt clenching gun fights, anywhere and everywhere against everyone. Scout's where a challenge and one of the most rewarding of all engagements. Fighting a 30 second++++ sometimes 1 minute against Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane was some of the most fondest memories I have made in this game. Why I tip my hat to them in every top 10 Merc's of DUST lists I make. Heavies where lethal and took approach and plan at how you came at them to even stand a chance. Hit registry was just as good as it is now... No Aim assist Crutch blowing up hitboxes.. or causing bullets to magnetise or w/e every Vet is experiencing with bullets following targets or "Homing" in... Right now Aim assist is not something that hinders, its something used and abused, and is forced upon the competitive players or ones who truly understand the word "scrub" in games, and worse off...in majority don't want it. It has NOT helped new players in anyway other then putting a big band aid on hit detection for Uprising 1.4-1.6 after fixes from 1.0-1.3 where un successful... and over all DUST has existed LONGER without AA, then it has existed WITH IT. a feature that has hurt DUST more then it has ever helped... Worse thing from my personal aspirations of making DUST appeal to my long time FPS friends... AA is such a polarizing issue in the FPS community that it will actually make people quit and never look back until it's gone. But Hey it's in every FPS in consol history since like.....ever.... right? wait.. Except Doom, Golden eye, Perfect Dark, Soccom, MAG, CS:GO, KZ:SF, DUST EST Uprising 1.4....etcx200 Chrome had some terrible hit detection. I got the drop on a shotgun scout with my HMG on what was then a new map, he starred to jinky back and forth in a manner that is impossible with a joy stick. While ignoring all my DPS he casually three shotted me. My favorite HD story was a perfectly timed flux on a shotgunner about to cross a bridge. As his shields dropped my Toxin SMG was unloading somehow doing no (or negligible) damage. Charging across he three shotted me. My HWS was at 3 or 4 and SAS 5. In both cases I was better positioned and prepared only to magically lose thanks entirely to game bugs. The glitch-fest and game-input cheats of Chrome are gone and I don't miss it. Hit Detection has improved significantly with Uprising. While my HMG performance has had ups and downs now I can have good games whereas in Chromosome nearly breaking even was an excellent match. The only downside that immediately comes to mind is the fixes have indirectly nerfed the hell out of scouts and light frames. . Sounds like you where shooting beside the scout not on them... or just over the shoulder(have done it a lot and notice when you go back and look at capture card footage.) There was lag and some hit detection issues in Chromosome, DUST has never been perfect, or many games. Stutter stepping is done on the Ds3 and is still done and breaks AA pretty good.. really can throw a mouse user like nothing else though lol. But if you turn Aim assist off right now there is no difference really in HD from now to Chromosome... Watch at 1:20 what the bullets do with AA. Quote: The glitch-fest and game-input cheats of Chrome are gone and I don't miss it. Where did they go? Still Turbo controllers, still equipment spam.. still equipment being placed inside walls even ...... Except now we have a game setting that is referred by everyone in, the in game coms as "Auto Aim" I Have seen new players Suffer 0/10, 0/20++ worse scores then ever.. Even when in Chromosome people had their skills maxed out and Imp's running around in a full group.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 205	Posted - 2014.01.02 04:07:00 - [14] - Quote I aim better without aim-assist. The controls felt 'sticky' before. 'Don't talk to stranger, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT I will never stop killing you. Dropship Pilot/Ninja/Sniper
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 1001	Posted - 2014.01.02 04:10:00 - [15] - Quote Dat TTK tho "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Rusty Shallows 669	Posted - 2014.01.02 06:40:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: The glitch-fest and game-input cheats of Chrome are gone and I don't miss it. Hit Detection has improved significantly with Uprising. While my HMG performance has had ups and downs now I can have good games whereas in Chromosome nearly breaking even was an excellent match. The only downside that immediately comes to mind is the fixes have indirectly nerfed the hell out of scouts and light frames. Sounds like you where shooting beside the scout not on them... or just over the shoulder(have done it a lot and notice when you go back and look at capture card footage.) There was lag and some hit detection issues in Chromosome, DUST has never been perfect, or many games. Stutter stepping is done on the Ds3 and is still done and breaks AA pretty good.. really can throw a mouse user like nothing else though lol. But if you turn Aim assist off right now there is no difference really in HD from now to Chromosome... Watch at 1:20 what the bullets do with AA. I am going to have to take you at your word with turning AA on/off and HD since AA was never noticeable with my HMG/SMG anyways. Sounds interesting. I was on target in both cases, if there was another element that seemed at play it would have been mentioned. In the case of the bridge he was running more or less at me. The impossible side stepping scout was short ranges, close enough he was inside the circle and far enough it didn't take too much effort to keep him more or less centered. Hit Detection issues are pretty easy to tell, counting lag in there. When the same weapons and tactics have varying result under the same conditions that's a dead giveaway something is wrong with the game. In Chromosome I had almost universally bad hit detection. At the start of Uprising my Toxin SMG started regularly getting kills, it was as if this was a different game. The most damming evidence was the direct-hit-zero-damage with Forge Guns. It used to be at least once a week I'd sneak up on someone (usually) a sniper and encounter that bug. Switching to the SMG and shooting them in the back of the head. Consequently the only time hit detection reliably worked with the Toxin. There have been plenty of times in Uprising where my SMG/HMG couldn't hurt a fly but that doesn't compare to almost all the time in Chrome in my case. The more people bring up their own experiences the more certain I am different game connections were having a drastic result in game-play between observers. Bethhy, you bring up a very interesting bit about frames and aiming. Wish there was a way to test it out. Lag was certainly an issue then and a factor. Bethhy wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: The glitch-fest and game-input cheats of Chrome are gone and I don't miss it. Where did they go? Still Turbo controllers, still equipment spam.. still equipment being placed inside walls even ...... Except now we have a game setting that is referred by everyone in, the in game coms as "Auto Aim" I Have seen new players Suffer 0/10, 0/20++ worse scores then ever.. wasn't even like that when in Chromosome people had their skills maxed out versus no skilled mercenaries..and Imp's running around in a full group. Most certainly true. I was trying to subtly reference keyboard and mouse with raw inputs. Which allowed for impossible strafing that can't be done on a D3 since the analog stick has physical delay greater than pressing keys. Lord only knows when they'll finally do something about modded/programmable controllers. A good number of us repeatedly said they were a problem at the height of the TAC-AR crisis. It wouldn't surprise me if others mentioned it even earlier in closed beta and no one remembers or took it seriously then. As far as bad scores goes I think we'd need some statistical data before making any analysis. On that topic it wouldn't be too surprising if having exited buy-in beta had some effect. But seriously if it can be shown that auto-aim is giving an unfair advantage then it should be dropped or the other inputs improved. Or dropped and other inputs leveled out so they don't suddenly have an unfair advantage. Good luck to the Devs figuring that mess out. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Shokhann Echo Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.02 07:17:00 - [17] - Quote ladwar wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. If you dont like it then turn it off. Man you show offs are annoying. you can't turn it off for everyone... this is why we cant have nice things. rational people don't like something, they don't use it. ass holes don't like something, they want it banned from everyones use. Youtube Alt # 1 Back on main 3-31-2014
ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 1948	Posted - 2014.01.02 07:51:00 - [18] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: ladwar wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. If you dont like it then turn it off. Man you show offs are annoying. you can't turn it off for everyone... this is why we cant have nice things. rational people don't like something, they don't use it. ass holes don't like something, they want it banned from everyones use. when its broken it broken. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven 85	Posted - 2014.01.02 08:01:00 - [19] - Quote **** kb/m user i want my AA
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Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2014.01.02 09:33:00 - [21] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Quote: The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. Tripwire President John Gibson
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2014.01.02 09:34:00 - [22] - Quote Tripwire...you're our only hope.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1329	Posted - 2014.01.02 10:47:00 - [23] - Quote As a KBM player, i don't really have issues with people and their AA as i come from PC games where Aimbots are much much worse, but i don't get why they use it, i mean why not practice and get better instead of forever being crap? Sure its gonna take a couple of months or so to get out of the sucky legion, but once out youll be able to actually take credit for all your kills. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Shokhann Echo Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 146	Posted - 2014.01.02 20:58:00 - [24] - Quote ladwar wrote: Shokhann Echo wrote: ladwar wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: ladwar wrote: http://youtu.be/dPOzbJxkEpI see... once you find a standard for it never ever touch it. If you dont like it then turn it off. Man you show offs are annoying. you can't turn it off for everyone... this is why we cant have nice things. rational people don't like something, they don't use it. ass holes don't like something, they want it banned from everyones use. when its broken it broken. its really not broken, I hardly ever notice it at all. if anything its almost non existing for me, if you don't like something don't use it, simple as that... who are you to say what people can and cant use? because of your massive ego pride? lol Youtube Alt # 1 Back on main 3-31-2014
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5258	Posted - 2014.01.02 21:19:00 - [25] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. LOL Chromosome HAD aim assist. It was removed early Uprising, which made people mad because aiming didn't feel right. You know why it didn't feel right? No aim assist Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5258	Posted - 2014.01.02 21:21:00 - [26] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: As a KBM player, i don't really have issues with people and their AA as i come from PC games where Aimbots are much much worse, but i don't get why they use it, i mean why not practice and get better instead of forever being crap? Sure its gonna take a couple of months or so to get out of the sucky legion, but once out youll be able to actually take credit for all your kills. The skill ceiling on a KBM is far higher than on a DS3. Argue Dust having sucky aiming all you want, but as soon as they fix KBM aiming AND remove AA, it will become KBM514. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2539	Posted - 2014.01.02 21:41:00 - [27] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: As a KBM player, i don't really have issues with people and their AA as i come from PC games where Aimbots are much much worse, but i don't get why they use it, i mean why not practice and get better instead of forever being crap? Sure its gonna take a couple of months or so to get out of the sucky legion, but once out youll be able to actually take credit for all your kills. Because why become better when the aimbot aims for peoples heads for you?
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 115	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:00:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: As a KBM player, i don't really have issues with people and their AA as i come from PC games where Aimbots are much much worse, but i don't get why they use it, i mean why not practice and get better instead of forever being crap? Sure its gonna take a couple of months or so to get out of the sucky legion, but once out youll be able to actually take credit for all your kills. The skill ceiling on a KBM is far higher than on a DS3. Argue Dust having sucky aiming all you want, but as soon as they fix KBM aiming AND remove AA, it will become KBM514. I swap back and forth from KB/M and DS3 but I come from PC games and bought a PS3 FOR DUST (I'm an EVE player since 2006) Right now KB/M aiming is so bad that my reticule actually REPELS off the target. You can notice this most on Vehicle like rail tanks shooting a stationary turret for example. I have to move the mouse to keep my aim point on a STATIONARY target! Also, not having a custom map (or at least alternate maps) for the KB/M is ridiculous. I hit tab at least 4 times during most matches trying to access a repper tool or a armor hardener on my tank....
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 9	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:11:00 - [29] - Quote ladwar wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Bethhy wrote: Quote: The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. Tripwire President John Gibson Spot on. I know there is much hate flung at our aim assist but it's not nearly as serious as BF4 or COD. Admittedly it gives your weapon some stickiness against targets but frankly it's broken very easily by the shooter or targets movements. I also bet that if you ask any varsity shooters in Dust they would tell you they have no problem going 20/2 vs folks with aim assist. If you think aim assist will carry you to a positive KDR in Dust...I can't see it. that leads me to wonder why i did 58/14 on my last BF3 rush(300%). i don't remember the weapon, some russian LMG with 46 rounds, got 8 knife kills. so bad players since i only have 4 melee ribbons in bf3. nooooooooo i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, nooooooooo i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player, i am not a bad player. there, that's proof that i am not bad player I took the opportunity to check your BF3 stats at BF3STATS.COM Your PSN id is bsrking5 you are a lvl 5 psn'er with 143 trophies 123 Bronze 17 Silver 3 Gold 0 Plats You have completed 13% of BF3 with 10 Trophies NOW FOR SOME RED MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your BF3 lifetime accuracy is 14.77% KDR .857 kills 1737 Deaths 2023 LVL 32 Srgt Your best Weapon was the RPK-74M 3:51:41 playtime accuracy 12.39% I have no comment
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 650	Posted - 2014.01.02 23:28:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Rahl Draak wrote: Chromosome.....no aim assist, great gameplay. Post Chromosome......bf3, cod, halo crap...and player count looking like the Greek GDP. Surprise, surprise. Welcome to console. LOL Chromosome HAD aim assist. It was removed early Uprising, which made people mad because aiming didn't feel right. You know why it didn't feel right? No aim assist Mostly not true. Chromosome did have some aim assist that wasn't part of the actual active aim assist setting.. like friction and a very mild LDS centering. But the Active Aim Assist got de-activated pre Chromosome due to the forum out rage about it. The Main feature that made Uprising 1.0 and 1.1 so terrible for aiming feel compared to Chromosome was the Joystick acceleration curve they added onto the DS3 and then the Mouse/KB as it was a emulation at that point. The acceleration curve basically made it so the ds3 input would accelerate to extreme's with no reasonable cap., also made the M/KB have extreme inconsistency with the same movement pattern yielding vastly different results. The Aiming Problems in Uprising was one created by Wolfman Reworking the entire system in Uprising 1.0 launch and throwing out the one in Chromosome as it was cause 1-2 Frame a second loss (He said) If this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqlnXZU6bw Is a thing you want to be a staple in DUST 514 now? Then fine.... I guess I chose the wrong game and my friends where right about CCP Shanghai. But as far as this game being an actual shooter with this? its a giant farce.



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