okay. then lets limit suit changes at SD's as well.

You get 5 a match.
You cannot change suits if your current one is too damaged(Let's say <25% armor HP left).
Your gun has to be fully reloaded(you're already at an SD. this shouldn't really be a problem.)

okay. then lets limit suit changes at SD's as well.

You get 5 a match.
You cannot change suits if your current one is too damaged(Let's say <25% armor HP left).
Your gun has to be fully reloaded(you're already at an SD. this shouldn't really be a problem.)

Two and 3 are stupid ideas.

number 1 might actually be reasonable if very irritating (IE, I used my modules, ran to redline and am now waiting for 30s in complete safety to switch to a vehicle to combat what I saw on the field).

I'm a very big tank enthusiast and I like idea #1.

Honestly, modules shouldn't reset if you call in a new tank(then again, I have complex modules and the CD skill at 20% reduction so it would actually take me longer to recall and get a new tank than to simply wait out the CDs of them)

I'd rather have:

1: RDV picks up vehicle

2: that vehicle 's modules has to cooldown before you can call that one in

3: repairs are done after cooldowns have ended, and goes at 100 HP/S or whatever the local reppers can do

4: If multiple fits of that fit is available, you can keep on calling those in until you run out (put all fits on cooldown or lost them in fights), and will have to wait until more is available (some comes off of cooldown, or you buy more).

That would work better imo

Isn't #1 already in place? Could have sworn it was. I was running low on just about everything in my tank(ammo,armor, everything on cooldown) and when I tried to knock out three birds with one stone by recalling it and then calling in a fresh one the game would not let me do so until the tank finished repping itself and the modules reset.

I think EVE already has an elegant solution with logout timers. If you've dealt damage or had damage dealt to you in the past 60 seconds you can't recall your vehicle.

Yea that's what I was talking about in #2 although without numbers.

As much as I'd like to have RDVs pick up recalled vehicles, coding that is much, much more difficult than a drop off system.


How about adding a risk vs. reward system? (Just throwing out an idea, please don't kill me)

Recalling a vehicle reduces it to a nano pack which is added to your dropsuit with some icon informing you that you have the pack (perhaps on the weapon wheel).

The pack can be deposited at any friendly supply depot or cru.

If you die while holding the pack, you lose the vehicle fitting.

If you call for another vehicle of the same type, the nano pack is used which allows the vehicle to deploy faster than a RDV delivers (as fast as a recall). If the recalled vehicle was damaged and/or did not have a full ammo cache, the 2nd vehicle will not be at full health and/or be missing some ammo.

If you call for a vehicle of a different type, the RDV will deliver it. If you also recall this vehicle, you will be holding multiple packs.

Accompanying changes:
Increased RDV delivery time
Decreased recall time


Risk:
Even after recalling, your vehicle is still in danger
Vehicles of the same type are not at full health/ammo capacity

Reward:
Quickly bring out vehicles you had previously called for

Tactics:
A tanker could have their tank but also have a cheap and fast vehicle stored as a nanopack. When their tank is in danger, they can get to cover, swap it out for their fast vehicle and easily get to safety.

how about every time some one says recall they give me 1mil isk?

okay. then lets limit suit changes at SD's as well.

You get 5 a match.
You cannot change suits if your current one is too damaged(Let's say <25% armor HP left).
Your gun has to be fully reloaded(you're already at an SD. this shouldn't really be a problem.)

Limiting suits then

1. No changing suits if your suit is not 100% hp

2. No changing suits when the depot is getting shot at by enemy

3. No changing suits if your gun isnt reloaded

Limiting suits then

1. No changing suits if your suit is not 100% hp

2. No changing suits when the depot is getting shot at by enemy

3. No changing suits if your gun isnt reloaded

agree on the first two but i am not sure about the last one. Sometimes changeing suits is the only way to get ammunition out of supply depost they seem a bit bugged from time to time. If thats fixed I agree withe last one as well.

Limiting suits then

1. No changing suits if your suit is not 100% hp

2. No changing suits when the depot is getting shot at by enemy

3. No changing suits if your gun isnt reloaded

Ok well I think most people can agree that this feature is obviously broken. So I think there should be a few requirements that need to be met before you can recall your vehicle. Now not all of these need to be implemented but something needs to be done about the recall feature.

1. Modules cannot be on cool own when you recall. This stops people from just recalling and calling back in to get through their cool downs. This will hurt new tankers more then ones with a bit of SP investment because cool downs decrease through the tiers.

2. You cannot recall during combat. This stops people from just recalling because they are going to die. This would only happen with AV weapons or other tank weapons

3. I think there should be a limit on how many recalls you can do per match. Limit it to like 5.

4. Add a longer recall timer.

Others ideas
Post #7 This one has some pretty good ideas

I am always open to feedback too :). If you have any other ideas post them below.

EDIT: When I think of more ideas I'll update the OP. Also any good ideas I see I will put the post link in the OP.

1. Sure
2. Same with Infantry, make it so they have to out of combat for a certain amount of time before changing at SD
3. Same for Infantry, banned from SD after 5 uses
4. I'm not sure.

maybe tanks could only recall at supply depots?

I dunno if that would solve your issues, but I don't see how it would be unfair. Infantry can only change suits without dying at supply depots after all.

Limiting suits then

1. No changing suits if your suit is not 100% hp

2. No changing suits when the depot is getting shot at by enemy

3. No changing suits if your gun isnt reloaded

okay. then lets limit suit changes at SD's as well.

You get 5 a match.
You cannot change suits if your current one is too damaged(Let's say <25% armor HP left).
Your gun has to be fully reloaded(you're already at an SD. this shouldn't really be a problem.)

Sure you can. Right after you:

Buff every niche weapon in the game by giving them 20-30% extra damage, make my dropsuit invulnerable to all but 6 weapons in the entire game, give my dropsuit the ability to use nitrous to GTFO faster than even a scout could ever possible hope to achieve, buff my base HP to 4000HP, and give me a weapon that can shred vehicles without having to compromise anything.

Until then, it's not happening.

Ok well I think most people can agree that this feature is obviously broken. So I think there should be a few requirements that need to be met before you can recall your vehicle. Now not all of these need to be implemented but something needs to be done about the recall feature.

1. Modules cannot be on cool own when you recall. This stops people from just recalling and calling back in to get through their cool downs. This will hurt new tankers more then ones with a bit of SP investment because cool downs decrease through the tiers.

2. You cannot recall during combat. This stops people from just recalling because they are going to die. This would only happen with AV weapons or other tank weapons

3. I think there should be a limit on how many recalls you can do per match. Limit it to like 5.

4. Add a longer recall timer.

Others ideas
Post #7 This one has some pretty good ideas

I am always open to feedback too :). If you have any other ideas post them below.

EDIT: When I think of more ideas I'll update the OP. Also any good ideas I see I will put the post link in the OP.

Vehicles just need to not be able to recall under combat. If you can't run to your back zone and LOS behind a hill or building you should NOT be able to recall.

If you want to risk an open-field recall, you should be able to try it but be interrupted (10 second cooldown) for each damage that you or the vehicle takes while hacking it.


And increase the recall hack time by about double.

This solves all those BS vehicles who will flip on hardeners to tank while hiding behind their vehicle LOS to hack-recall it. While knowing it would currently take 4 rail tanks to kill them fast enough before being recalled, and then they have saved their assets
in a losing battle
while under fire
in under a couple seconds.




It's one of the stupidest things in this game, right next to RDV's and how CCP can't make any small turret aside from missiles worth a damn after a year or 2.

can we make them more like dropsuits, and only allow recall within the vicinity of a supply depot?