Dropping from a dropship will either make you take fall damage, partially crippling your combat effectiveness, or you will be forced to activate dampeners, which both make a loud noise and also immobilize you for a second or two. So it has a risk/reward feature to it, unlike the low risk/high reward that goes with jumping out of an LAV.

There needs to be at least a small downside to using this tactic, is what I am saying.

Before somebody says that I'm just butthurt about how powerful the HMG is now, I'm not. This is more about the combination of heavy suits with an LAV driving around, jumping out, and eating people.

Here's the problem: the heavy's only weakness is his mobility. (And no equipment slot, but whatever) You could argue that the heavy suits have another weakness by having less module slots than medium suits, but remember that the only heavy suit we have at the moment is the Amarr suit, and they always have the least modules.

But anyways, mobility is the heavy's biggest weakness. They have the greatest tank, the best firepower, etc. So driving around in an LAV completely negates the heavy's only weakness, making it incredibly powerful. Why should they be allowed to do this? I do it all the time, personally, and I find that there is barely any counter(AV grenades do the trick, but hardly anyone uses those, and you need all three to destroy just one LAV, so not so practical). Hell, I've even seen other people use Sica's to roll up on people, jump out and annihilate them, then jump back in the Sica and drive off to their next victim.

So here's my question: do you think this is working as intended? Should heavies be allowed to cope with their greatest weakness with an incredibly easy, low risk ride like the LAV? Should some sort of animation be added for a heavy suit getting in and out of a vehicle to nerf their ganking power? I imagine the animation would be about 3-4 seconds long, just enough to put the ball back in the victim's court.

Thoughts, please.

it's less than 1 second to stand up if you activate dampeners, not really much risk. LAV's make noise too, and lights.

driving an LAV is low risk? I don't believe that at all. the LAV alone costs more than most other suits and they blow up all the time.

1.) Mobility is not a heavy's greatest weakness... it's his second greatest weakness.

2.) If there is one role I can kill 99.9% out of the 100 times I face off against it, it is heavy. So, I welcome them getting out of their car. Although, it does p!ss me off when they have 0 health left and jump back in their LAV at the last second.

xD

You couldn't come up with one reasonable counter to what I said? I'm disappoint.

You obviously don't understand what crying is, I have considered your possibilities. Let me start with the easiest to explain and then move from there.

Prox mines are bugged, they detonate long after the fast moving LAVs have passed by them. Also, you expect someone to throw prox mines on the ground AFTER an LAV has rolled up on them, and the heavy is shooting at them? What logic is that? Unless you didn't read jack, and you for some reason thought this thread was about LAVs being hard to kill and nothing else.

Environment, yeah, that can help, but as I mentioned before 70% of this game's maps are open land. If you want to go from some point A to some other point B, chances are you will have to go through an open space. Where an LAV can roll up and decimate you.

AV grenades, go ahead and take a look at a previous post I made doing the math.

So that leaves one tactic, groups. I admit that this is valid, and will counter the LAV. But it's just one counter, then only thing anybody has said so far that is a legitimate counter to this tactic. There needs to be multiple counters to every thing, else there is no variety.

I await to see your crying response that has no real logic behind it.

1.) Mobility is not a heavy's greatest weakness... it's his second greatest weakness.

2.) If there is one role I can kill 99.9% out of the 100 times I face off against it, it is heavy. So, I welcome them getting out of their car. Although, it does p!ss me off when they have 0 health left and jump back in their LAV at the last second.

The MLT LAV costs about 20k ISK. IDK how rich you are, but that's chump's change to me. My most commonly used suit is about 50k ISK, about 2.5 times as much as the LAV costs.

Tell me ppl. Do you think THIS is in any way tactical or possible especially with a big f*cking cannon?

Before somebody says that I'm just butthurt about how powerful the HMG is now, I'm not. This is more about the combination of heavy suits with an LAV driving around, jumping out, and eating people.

Here's the problem: the heavy's only weakness is his mobility. (And no equipment slot, but whatever) You could argue that the heavy suits have another weakness by having less module slots than medium suits, but remember that the only heavy suit we have at the moment is the Amarr suit, and they always have the least modules.

But anyways, mobility is the heavy's biggest weakness. They have the greatest tank, the best firepower, etc. So driving around in an LAV completely negates the heavy's only weakness, making it incredibly powerful. Why should they be allowed to do this? I do it all the time, personally, and I find that there is barely any counter(AV grenades do the trick, but hardly anyone uses those, and you need all three to destroy just one LAV, so not so practical). Hell, I've even seen other people use Sica's to roll up on people, jump out and annihilate them, then jump back in the Sica and drive off to their next victim.

So here's my question: do you think this is working as intended? Should heavies be allowed to cope with their greatest weakness with an incredibly easy, low risk ride like the LAV? Should some sort of animation be added for a heavy suit getting in and out of a vehicle to nerf their ganking power? I imagine the animation would be about 3-4 seconds long, just enough to put the ball back in the victim's court.

Thoughts, please.

I will say though... shotgunners LAV hopping.

That's actually something to be afraid of.

they're like sharks in the water....

Before somebody says that I'm just butthurt about how powerful the HMG is now, I'm not. This is more about the combination of heavy suits with an LAV driving around, jumping out, and eating people.

Here's the problem: the heavy's only weakness is his mobility. (And no equipment slot, but whatever) You could argue that the heavy suits have another weakness by having less module slots than medium suits, but remember that the only heavy suit we have at the moment is the Amarr suit, and they always have the least modules.

But anyways, mobility is the heavy's biggest weakness. They have the greatest tank, the best firepower, etc. So driving around in an LAV completely negates the heavy's only weakness, making it incredibly powerful. Why should they be allowed to do this? I do it all the time, personally, and I find that there is barely any counter(AV grenades do the trick, but hardly anyone uses those, and you need all three to destroy just one LAV, so not so practical). Hell, I've even seen other people use Sica's to roll up on people, jump out and annihilate them, then jump back in the Sica and drive off to their next victim.

So here's my question: do you think this is working as intended? Should heavies be allowed to cope with their greatest weakness with an incredibly easy, low risk ride like the LAV? Should some sort of animation be added for a heavy suit getting in and out of a vehicle to nerf their ganking power? I imagine the animation would be about 3-4 seconds long, just enough to put the ball back in the victim's court.

Thoughts, please.