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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1009	Posted - 2013.12.26 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote You saw the goofup of patch 1.7 with boosters instead of being 10% they instead tumbled the numbers and instead got an extra zero to be 100% instead?? Well its best if we get to look over patch 1.8 BEFORE content lock to improve the game. Why?? 1.8 is INFANTRY balancing patch.??? Now imagine if Nova Knifes get instead of 0 to .5m range they get 0 to 50m range? Or hey!! how about if shotguns get instead of 0 to 10m range they get 0 to 100m range. Oh man!! a sniper shotgun!! Or if kincats get a 120% speed boost per module?? Or if reptools get 1000hp per second?? I can go on and on but hey its better to be able to look at the FULL patch notes ahead of time and point out problems. Even right now patch 1.7 notes are INCOMPLETE. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 591	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:02:00 - [2] - Quote Raging from lack of content and bad balancing ... all of us done it from time to time ... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestrucbible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1616	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:02:00 - [3] - Quote I'm sure they do not know for sure what is going to be in 1.8 and what needs to be pulled out. from what i heard they submit it to sony and must get an okay before anything goes live. And if they put up patch notes right now something as simple as "Bolt pistol is coming in 1.8" then a week from release they have to pull out due to a bug found do you know the amount of rage and b*tching there would be. Amarr! Try EVE Online Buying Deamon Shotgun
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 285	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:05:00 - [4] - Quote Except the patch notes for 1.7 didn't say that the module was going to be a 100% boost. That's why it was a mistake, because it was supposed to be one thing instead of another. If the notes had said 100% and the game gave 100%, then it'd be workign as intended. I would like to see the notes, though, as I am curious as to what's coming.
Musta Tornius Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 922	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:05:00 - [5] - Quote Last I heard 1.8 was still in design phase. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1009	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:06:00 - [6] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I'm sure they do not know for sure what is going to be in 1.8 and what needs to be pulled out. from what i heard they submit it to sony and must get an okay before anything goes live. And if they put up patch notes right now something as simple as "Bolt pistol is coming in 1.8" then a week from release they have to pull out due to a bug found do you know the amount of rage and b*tching there would be. All CCP has to do is say: Temporary and subject to CHANGE, content may be cut or changed due to last minute bugs, defects or problems. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Cenex Langly 0uter.Heaven 517	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:07:00 - [7] - Quote I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol Newb
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3451	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:10:00 - [8] - Quote The NK thing sounds kinda nice in my opinion. Totally unbiased opinion. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1009	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:14:00 - [9] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: The NK thing sounds kinda nice in my opinion. Totally unbiased opinion. Yeah Imagine a long range Nova Knife?? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 14	Posted - 2013.12.26 01:32:00 - [10] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1395	Posted - 2013.12.26 02:14:00 - [11] - Quote They should at least release certain things ahead of time, like with the rifles they released the info well ahead of time. It was smart, because our feedback resulted in an increase in the RR spool up time which was small but probably helps keep it from being totally OP. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2472	Posted - 2013.12.26 02:23:00 - [12] - Quote Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process.
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1169	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:14:00 - [13] - Quote You're turning into a whiny old fart tech.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 496	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:21:00 - [14] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process. In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 760	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:40:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process. In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. Will 1.8 still be following the monthly release cadence or will it ship a bit later due to the holidays?

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 498	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:41:00 - [16] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process. In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. Will 1.8 still be following the monthly release cadence or will it ship a bit later due to the holidays? It'll be shipping later - but haven't nailed down when yet. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 125	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:41:00 - [17] - Quote Hello mercs! Here are the 1.8 patch notes! New hamsters and we have now replaced the plastic hamsters wheels with chrome stainless steel hamster wheels! Enjoy! The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1932	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:43:00 - [18] - Quote There is no way they'd get something out in two weeks unless they have a kind of Amarr vs. Minmatar work ethic.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2591	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:45:00 - [19] - Quote 1000HP/s? That's more than even a complex Heavy Armor Repairer on a vehicle. That's as much as 10 logis with Core Focused Repair Tools. Good luck killing the heavy in front of that repair tool. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2593	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:04:00 - [20] - Quote Also, you already have a sniper shotgun. Ishukone Sniper Rifle with 4 Complex Damage Mods at Prof IV. And there is the Charge Sniper Rifle for those who tend to lean towards then Breach variant. Though I would much rather have a Nova Knife Sniper Rifle. My MinScout's bonus to Nova Knife Damage would easily let me go ham on people. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 374	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:10:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. I appreciate the response. It means more than you know.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 407	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:10:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process. In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. "We provided you with an unbalanced vehicle patch like you've been asking for for 8 months. Now that we enticed vehicle users to spend money on our game, we have no idea how we are going to balance the cluster fck we created in our never ending strategy of providing the worst game mechanics, based upon the most idiotic playerbase every present in an FPS game, to date. TY for still playing a game we don't care to balance intelligently." That's what i read.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1384	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:33:00 - [23] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I'm sure they do not know for sure what is going to be in 1.8 and what needs to be pulled out. from what i heard they submit it to sony and must get an okay before anything goes live. And if they put up patch notes right now something as simple as "Bolt pistol is coming in 1.8" then a week from release they have to pull out due to a bug found do you know the amount of rage and b*tching there would be. All CCP has to do is say: Temporary and subject to CHANGE, content may be cut or changed due to last minute bugs, defects or problems. They say that literally all of the time........ Marston VC, STB Director
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1384	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:36:00 - [24] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Namirial Kensai wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol except they usually release notes ahead of time like in EVE, because when people dont know ahead of time in EVE, they end up getting screwed, losing months of focus because they were unprepared, and then they get mad and yell at CCP and etc etc etc. most fo teh mroe successful patches and balacning passes were with MONTHS of open discussion on what is changed where in a public thread for the playerbase Yea and EvE also doesn't have monthly updates and doesn't have to go through Sonys QA process. In general, we try to release patch notes about a week before the release date. Depending on how things go. Re 1.8 patch notes - I'd love to give you more info but there's quite a bit still in the air. A lot of the development teams have gone home for the holidays, but we'll share out more when we can. "We provided you with an unbalanced vehicle patch like you've been asking for for 8 months. Now that we enticed vehicle users to spend money on our game, we have no idea how we are going to balance the cluster fck we created in our never ending strategy of providing the worst game mechanics, based upon the most idiotic playerbase every present in an FPS game, to date. TY for still playing a game we don't care to balance intelligently." That's what i read. Weather you like it or not, tanks are actually a viable thing to use in this game right now. CCP did a good job in balancing them. They might be a tad bit overpowered right now, but honestly its better to have a feature that's a tad bit overpowered then to have a feature that's overwhelmingly underpowered. The only reason infantry like you or I get angry now is because we have literally zero breathing space now. CCP needs to either up the player count to something like 20v20 or create some sort of infantry only game mode. This way people like myself can actually play the game outside of a sica railgun tank...... Marston VC, STB Director
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1384	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:38:00 - [25] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol they should also release a test server version for this game...... but they don't. Why get rid of all the bugs weeks before its deployed right? Marston VC, STB Director
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2594	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:39:00 - [26] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: I think CCP is actually playing it smart by not releasing patch notes 2 weeks ahead of schedule. They should release them either the Day of, and be consistent with this, or release them at most 2 days in advance to get any last minute feed back. And prepare for a hotfix the day after release. But hey, they don't have me as their PR or Release manager. If they did, they'd be winning! lol they should also release a test server version for this game...... but they don't. Why get rid of all the bugs weeks before its deployed right? Sony won't allow them to. At least, that's what I am told. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Cass Caul 617	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:42:00 - [27] - Quote Question to CCP Saberwing: Will the patch notes this time *actually have the full patch notes*? Because this game seems to be severely lacking if full stats. Like, REs are sticky or very many other changes that were made this patch that were not included in the notes +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 575	Posted - 2013.12.26 07:16:00 - [28] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Question to CCP Saberwing: Will the patch notes this time *actually have the full patch notes*? Because this game seems to be severely lacking if full stats. Like, REs are sticky or very many other changes that were made this patch that were not included in the notes I'll admit that there are a few things that slip by that really should have been noted... RE stickiness is a good example. On another note, I don't expect much in 1.8, is suspect it will be another stage setter patch much like 1.6 was for the vehicle overhaul. I suspect we'll see a few more suits (probably the heavies), scout and logi refresh the EP noted in the blog form earth is month and maybe one map and couple sidearms in 1.9.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.12.26 07:37:00 - [29] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Question to CCP Saberwing: Will the patch notes this time *actually have the full patch notes*? Because this game seems to be severely lacking if full stats. Like, REs are sticky or very many other changes that were made this patch that were not included in the notes We (Community) compile patch notes from the various Dev teams a few weeks prior to Deployment. Sometimes, things are added in subsequent to that point which require no additional changes to the client (server-side, 'hot fixed') - which could explain some of what you're saying. Also, it's possible that some smaller changes can slip through the cracks and the teams might forget to send over the changes to us. We'll do our best though! :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2013.12.26 07:49:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Cass Caul wrote: Question to CCP Saberwing: Will the patch notes this time *actually have the full patch notes*? Because this game seems to be severely lacking if full stats. Like, REs are sticky or very many other changes that were made this patch that were not included in the notes We (Community) compile patch notes from the various Dev teams a few weeks prior to Deployment. Sometimes, things are added in subsequent to that point which require no additional changes to the client (server-side, 'hot fixed') - which could explain some of what you're saying. Also, it's possible that some smaller changes can slip through the cracks and the teams might forget to send over the changes to us. We'll do our best though! :) And yet some people call you "stealth nerfers" and "ninja buffers". People just don't know how hard is to go from team to team and get them to write EVERYTHING they changed... I can't even comprehend how hard it is to keep track of what you changed in game for every single damn patch. Appreciated, Saber o7.



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