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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.20 08:58:00 -
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It feels like this.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4194
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:17:00 -
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That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:23:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors.
Easy? Ha. Caldari are too afraid to use anything more than militia and BPO. I'll give credit to the Amarr and say they put up a lot more of a fight than Caldari, but, just like Caldari (but to a lesser degree, since I actually see advanced gear and rare prototype), afraid to rally and use the better things. I've seen quite a few Q-synced squads for both- they still get crushed whenever we ("we" as in both Gallente and Minmitar) have more than just randoms. Minmitar's blues have this awful habit of letting other blues get shot in the back and then try to kill the red, only to fail. Gallente blues have a habit of throwing themselves into blenders, but that can't be help.
What can be helped, however, is the fact that most of the Gallente FWs I've been part of... we squad and ultimately cover the needed points. I've been on the Caldari's side before and the lack of organization was hilarious. Hell, I don't even use a mic and I work just fine with the people I squad with.
Long live the Federation!
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
401
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:25:00 -
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Yep, ques have shot up once people realized you can literally AFK a match in Gal/Min and have no problems gaining LPs.
All those Corps that started in Cal/Amarr have left and moved to the other side. Now you have a huge consolidation of Corps in Gal/Min FW after they mixed with those that started as Gal/FW.
Cal/Amarr have nobody to pull in, so few will fight for their side that now it is all complete randoms who just got in because it's the shortest que. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors.
Yep exactly. Some caldari matches used to start half-empty... the fix to matchmaking means they'll only start when they are full, and because so few people fight for the Caldari, the opposing side has to really wait a long time to fight..... hopefully this will be a small step in balancing the lopsided fight - but winning a Caldari FW fight is really a "Boo-yah!" moment.. it's super hardcore. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:30:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors. Yep exactly. Some caldari matches used to start half-empty... the fix to matchmaking means they'll only start when they are full, and because so few people fight for the Caldari, the opposing side has to really wait a long time to fight..... hopefully this will be a small step in balancing the lopsided fight - but winning a Caldari FW fight is really a "Boo-yah!" moment.. it's super hardcore.
Finally someone who understand what is proper balancing of game.
Support - Tactician/Medic
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4194
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:45:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors. Easy? Ha. Caldari are too afraid to use anything more than militia and BPO. I'll give credit to the Amarr and say they put up a lot more of a fight than Caldari, but, just like Caldari (but to a lesser degree, since I actually see advanced gear and rare prototype), afraid to rally and use the better things. I've seen quite a few Q-synced squads for both- they still get crushed whenever we ("we" as in both Gallente and Minmitar) have more than just randoms. Minmitar's blues have this awful habit of letting other blues get shot in the back and then try to kill the red, only to fail. Gallente blues have a habit of throwing themselves into blenders, but that can't be help. What can be helped, however, is the fact that most of the Gallente FWs I've been part of... we squad and ultimately cover the needed points. I've been on the Caldari's side before and the lack of organization was hilarious. Hell, I don't even use a mic and I work just fine with the people I squad with. Long live the Federation! You're looking at this wrong. Do you really think the Gallente and Minmatar tryhards are so much better than the Amarr and Caldari tryhards? I'd say they're pretty even in tryhardness. Do you honestly believe the Amarr and Caldari guys are afraid to use expensive gear? HA! Get your head on straight. The people using MLT and STD gear in FW are using it because they don't have anything else.
When I squad for Amarr, I win the good majority of the time. When I q-sync for Amarr, I haven't lost yet (with some great matches against q-synced Minmatar btw). It's just that the Gallente and Minmatar have a lot more supporters (probably because they are the perceived "good guys") and thus all the new players who don't have anything better than MLT or STD gear and have all four boxes checked for FW end up getting placed on Amarr and Caldari in order for matches to start.
Again, Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode. Fact. Don't believe me? Test it yourself. Check all four boxes in FW and see what team you get placed on. And the people who have all the boxes checked are, again, the people who don't have anything better than MLT and STD. That's why you stroll through most your matches.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1424
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote: You're looking at this wrong. Do you really think the Gallente and Minmatar tryhards are so much better than the Amarr and Caldari tryhards? I'd say they're pretty even in tryhardness. Do you honestly believe the Amarr and Caldari guys are afraid to use expensive gear? HA! Get your head on straight. The people using MLT and STD gear in FW are using it because they don't have anything else.
When I squad for Amarr, I win the good majority of the time. When I q-sync for Amarr, I haven't lost yet (with some great matches against q-synced Minmatar btw). It's just that the Gallente and Minmatar have a lot more supporters (probably because they are the perceived "good guys") and thus all the new players who don't have anything better than MLT or STD gear and have all four boxes checked for FW end up getting placed on Amarr and Caldari in order for matches to start.
Again, Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode. Fact. Don't believe me? Test it yourself. Check all four boxes in FW and see what team you get placed on. And the people who have all the boxes checked are, again, the people who don't have anything better than MLT and STD. That's why you stroll through most your matches.
I "stoll" through all my matches because I take objectives. I counter-hack. I guard the objectives. I'm not specialized into one thing. I don't just slay. I don't clutch onto a single weapon. I don't walk in a singe suit. I am the jack of all (infantry) trades. I do exactly what the **** we need. Need a guard dog? Heavy here. Need a support unit? Logibro here. Need a place secured? Scout here. I do it all. I painstakingly went this route some time ago. The "easy mode" Gallente? You shitting me? I roll into squads with fellow jacks (of all trades) quite often. We do what's needed. The Gallente I run into are often friendly with one another. When I enter the lobby, I see people squading or already squaded. If there's a place open, I slip into it.
From there? I fill the holes that are created. It's that simple. Hell, from time to time I lol about in the starter fit. Kidding me? There's usually an AFKer on our side, if not three to four. You know what we do? We bring better gear, carry those AFKers.
There was a separation when FW 2.0 arrived. People chose their side and now we have the result. If you really wanted to help your team, train the goddamn blues. Don't just sit there sobbing in a corner because you aren't getting your way. We Gallente take care of the Academy people that come in. I've been on Caldari's side. The anti-social fucks like leaving their blues for dead. Want to help? Do something.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4195
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:56:00 -
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With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1424
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive.
We may be pissing back in forth in another thread, but I am behind something being done about the entire queuing of randoms. I believe that they are thrown in (like you say) because of the shorter time and because they have all four checked. What I actually want (believe it or not) is an entry requirement into FW in itself.
Also, I want a lobby when I queue and there's snazzy music playing.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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FEELIN FROGGY
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:59:00 -
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Lets Fight the Frogs another way.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130670&find=unread
Destroy the Frogs . . . from within.
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
640
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:01:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive.
They could even pre-select based on your character race, maybe not perfect but could funnel some of the scrubs elsewhere
NPE is needed for FW too.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Mele Kalikimake to all!
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Agent Monroe
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:08:00 -
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How to tell someones an idiot. They think Gallente/Minmatar isn't easy mode atm.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4195
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:10:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: You're looking at this wrong. Do you really think the Gallente and Minmatar tryhards are so much better than the Amarr and Caldari tryhards? I'd say they're pretty even in tryhardness. Do you honestly believe the Amarr and Caldari guys are afraid to use expensive gear? HA! Get your head on straight. The people using MLT and STD gear in FW are using it because they don't have anything else.
When I squad for Amarr, I win the good majority of the time. When I q-sync for Amarr, I haven't lost yet (with some great matches against q-synced Minmatar btw). It's just that the Gallente and Minmatar have a lot more supporters (probably because they are the perceived "good guys") and thus all the new players who don't have anything better than MLT or STD gear and have all four boxes checked for FW end up getting placed on Amarr and Caldari in order for matches to start.
Again, Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode. Fact. Don't believe me? Test it yourself. Check all four boxes in FW and see what team you get placed on. And the people who have all the boxes checked are, again, the people who don't have anything better than MLT and STD. That's why you stroll through most your matches.
I "stoll" through all my matches because I take objectives. I counter-hack. I guard the objectives. I'm not specialized into one thing. I don't just slay. I don't clutch onto a single weapon. I don't walk in a singe suit. I am the jack of all (infantry) trades. I do exactly what the **** we need. Need a guard dog? Heavy here. Need a support unit? Logibro here. Need a place secured? Scout here. I do it all. I painstakingly went this route some time ago. The "easy mode" Gallente? You shitting me? I roll into squads with fellow jacks (of all trades) quite often. We do what's needed. The Gallente I run into are often friendly with one another. When I enter the lobby, I see people squading or already squaded. If there's a place open, I slip into it. From there? I fill the holes that are created. It's that simple. Hell, from time to time I lol about in the starter fit. Kidding me? There's usually an AFKer on our side, if not three to four. You know what we do? We bring better gear, carry those AFKers. There was a separation when FW 2.0 arrived. People chose their side and now we have the result. If you really wanted to help your team, train the goddamn blues. Don't just sit there sobbing in a corner because you aren't getting your way. We Gallente take care of the Academy people that come in. I've been on Caldari's side. The anti-social fucks like leaving their blues for dead. Want to help? Do something. Can you honestly not comprehend how the new players with nothing better than MLT or STD gear are populating the Amarr and Caldari sides not because they chose those factions but because they are the shortest queues?
Stop flattering yourself acting like you're just a far superior player than those who actually choose to fight for Amarr or Caldari. Again, keyword here being CHOOSE, instead of the new players who have everything checked and only end up on our teams because it's the shorter queue. Do you really think those who CHOOSE Amarr and Caldari don't understand the concepts of taking objectives, counter hacking, guarding, and having a wide diversity of fittings? Come on man, you're letting Gallente easy mode get to your head and inflate your ego.
Gallente and Minmatar FW are Easy Mode because- There's a large portion of players with all four boxes checked.
- These players have nothing better than STD gear and don't quite understand the objectives of Skirmish
- Because of queue lengths, nearly all these said players will populate Amarr and Caldari factions, giving the infamous illusion that Amarr and Caldari somehow have worse blueberries than everyone else. But again, these aren't Amarr or Caldari blueberries, they are just Dust blueberries who get placed on Amarr and Caldari because queue lengths and they don't know how to specifically check which faction to fight for.
So Gallente and Minmatar will more often than not always have a match where a bunch of their opponents are the mentioned MLT and STD blueberries diluting the actual Amarr and Caldari player base. But hey, I'm glad you're getting a big head from stomping new players.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4196
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:22:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive. They could even pre-select based on your character race, maybe not perfect but could funnel some of the scrubs elsewhere NPE is needed for FW too. Having it preselected based on your race could work, but I don't see why CCP can't simply make it so the first time you click on "Factional Contracts" in the battle finder you are required to manually place at least one check mark next to a faction. But yes, these guys need to be spread out better.
Also this problem only came up because among the people who actually choose which faction they want to fight for, far more people choose Gallente and Minmatar over Amarr and Caldari. I'm not sure if that's because of how CCP is portraying their lore to characters or which gear is available to each faction or a combination of many things, but they should definitely look into it. A good place to start would be continuing to work on racial parity of weapons and suits and such.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
141
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors.
Half way to lvl 5 with minmatar republic, and I have not fired one shot. Oh and I have 25k lp too. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
801
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:35:00 -
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I was faceraping GalFW with a tankbro the other day; we kept the field clear and racked up between twenty and forty kills between us depending on how many tanks the other guys spawned... We had utter vehicle dominance.
We failed to win almost all matches.
It was utterly obscene.
>Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Spartykins
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
1
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:37:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Caldari are too afraid to use anything more than militia and BPO.
It's more like they're incapable of using anything else then really afraid to.
(Insert witty phrase here)
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1426
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:54:00 -
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Spartykins wrote:It's more like they're incapable of using anything else then really afraid to.
I just came from a game of Gallente vs Caldari and OSG Planetary Operations was there. They put up a hell of a fight, but we won. Some good gear was being used at the second half of the game. Nearly everyone on Caldari's side did splendidly. (I say "nearly" because there were three people that went negative ten or more). Gallente's side had only two group that happened to be on our side, but even then one of them consisted of only three of them. The other group consisted of two.
I saw quite a bit of prototype and advanced gear that game and it tickled me because people were fighting back.
The only reason we won was because we kept grabbing objectives and defending them. Good effort from Caldari's side, but they weren't focused enough on the objectives.
I say this because if more of the Caldari's side would of used as much gear as we were throwing out, they would of beaten a lot more of us down. I hear that a number of Caldari's players are... poor. Understandable, given the nature of the other modes as of late.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5124
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:08:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors. Easy? Ha. Caldari are too afraid to use anything more than militia and BPO. I'll give credit to the Amarr and say they put up a lot more of a fight than Caldari, but, just like Caldari (but to a lesser degree, since I actually see advanced gear and rare prototype), afraid to rally and use the better things. I've seen quite a few Q-synced squads for both- they still get crushed whenever we ("we" as in both Gallente and Minmitar) have more than just randoms. Minmitar's blues have this awful habit of letting other blues get shot in the back and then try to kill the red, only to fail. Gallente blues have a habit of throwing themselves into blenders, but that can't be help. What can be helped, however, is the fact that most of the Gallente FWs I've been part of... we squad and ultimately cover the needed points. I've been on the Caldari's side before and the lack of organization was hilarious. Hell, I don't even use a mic and I work just fine with the people I squad with. Long live the Federation!
He isn't joking. I've been AFKing Gal FW for a week now to get easy Fed Madrgars, I still use normal Maddies because Im hoping for a player market, but I have about 55 now for no effort whatsoever, when Min Tanks come out I will AFK for the turrets I know will be good and the Heavy weapons to sell.
FW is worthless now, it has nothing to do with loyalty and is now another grind for easy loot, no wider EVE links are established, no benefit for knowing EVE players or new benefits for us to give them, but a 3 min timer OB which depends entirely on luck t ensure you call in.
Sorry but there is no point, I would fight other Minmatar loyalists not douche bags spamming equipment to generate lag for and easy win and yes I have seen douche "weaker" PC corps doing this.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5124
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:09:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I was faceraping GalFW with a tankbro the other day; we kept the field clear and racked up between twenty and forty kills between us depending on how many tanks the other guys spawned... We had utter vehicle dominance.
We failed to win almost all matches.
It was utterly obscene.
Yup Ive been doing that for Amarr FW.
Players ***** and moan about tanks on the maps....so I clear them out for them....and they are too ******* dumb to actually do anything after that.
Infantry is too damn stupid and not worth the ISK someone paid to clone them.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4199
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:18:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote: I say this because if more of the Caldari's side would of used as much gear as we were throwing out, they would of beaten a lot more of us down. I hear that a number of Caldari's players are... poor. Understandable, given the nature of the other modes as of late.
What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1427
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what?
We don't have space for them.
Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people.
For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now?
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
12
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:48:00 -
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CCP could give a bonus if a merc fights for their race.Make the bonus high enough and you will have more people spread out with the different races and give race loyalty meaning. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5124
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:53:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what? We don't have space for them.Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people. For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now?
I was waiting for you to say something like that. Bring up the old FW event where we took control for two weeks.
Yeah sucks like a ***** when your players pool are small doesn't it?
Now imagine that for months on end and you have the Amarr and Caldari FW efforts.
You players are not exactly all that much better than ours. On the Min/Amarr front the only real competition comes from Ultramarines and New Age Outlaws, the rest I dominate in squads when I play, much like the others. But unlike your FW efforts which have vastly more FW aligned corps and more numerously populated corps we cannot field those numbers of skilled players around the clock.
Consider that the Amarr have/ had one permanently aligned FW corp in PIE Inc, and no others, we had participation from OH and AE on a low scale, and with about a standing order of 30 players were able to take control for 2 weeks.....
Consider that NAO now sits around 40-60 members, TUL deploys en masse around the clock, Prima Gallicus switches from Gal to Min when they want, Turalyon deploys to Min FW, so does Molon Labe and Hellstorm who used to do Amarr FW.
The numbers disparity is too intense for the efforts of X small number of players to affect the efforts of X large groups of players.
Your guys are no better than ours, you just have more of them. Frankly speaking I havent heard of you in Min FW meaning you are pretty much irrelevant to the scene. Q syncing is great, it used to work when the FW community was smaller and more dedicated to their factions.
Your suggestions are nothing new yet you spout them as though they were great pearls of wisdom. Protip mate I've been doing FW a long time now, I know how to get people to fight, and frankly speaking right now I just dont care enough to do it with the poor lore educated and narrowminded community mind set, coupled with FW's degradation into another version of farmville 2.0, where yet again more bugs have become obvious as gameplay has developed with no action taken by CCP address them.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1427
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Posted - 2013.12.20 12:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Frankly speaking I havent heard of you in Min FW meaning you are pretty much irrelevant to the scene.
Out of all the things I could of possibly singled out, I'm going to do this one.
GOOD!
I don't want you to know me. I don't want you to see me. I don't want you to remember me. You are a nothing to me and that is how everyone from an opposing faction SHOULD see each other. There's no sentimental values to be had here. It's the people with no name that have done more than you could possibly imagine.
And I do remember you from a FW a few weeks ago. I shot at your tank with a Breach and you ran from me. From one soldier. I laugh whenever you put something up about tanks because I remember that you fled from a single red. A single Wiyrkomi. You later came back around and attempted to spawn trap with a Maddy, but that failed too.
From all the jousts I have in Minmitar FW lately, you are not there. Out of all the defend orders I do for them, you are not there. Where are you? The hours I spend in FW... where are you? Just... where are you? So I can blow up your tank without even using a heavy weapon.
Never forget that it's the people you don't remember that are the worst to run into. You may not know them, but they may know you. You putting yourself out as a HAVer makes it easier on me to remember you. I'll be keeping an eye out for you.
P.S. If you really believe that being known is important, you don't belong here. You really don't.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
You can find me in Gallente's FW. I smell of freedom.
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
641
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:26:00 -
[27] - Quote
Kasote Denzara wrote:Stuff.
I can't believe I'm "defending" True, but wind your neck in dude... True, his PIE buddies and now his new corp do deserve respect, if nothing else.
While my distaste for True in the RP world is apparent I do give him and the rest of the Amarr loyalist respect and credit on the battlefield when/where needed. You're probably in the wrong timezone, so don't assume they are not fighting for their cause.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Mele Kalikimake to all!
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D0LPH ZIGGLER
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
13
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:07:00 -
[28] - Quote
Rogue Saint wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Stuff. I can't believe I'm "defending" True, but wind your neck in dude... True, his PIE buddies and now his new corp do deserve respect, if nothing else. While my distaste for True in the RP world is apparent I do give him and the rest of the Amarr loyalist respect and credit on the battlefield when/where needed. You're probably in the wrong timezone, so don't assume they are not fighting for their cause.
I totally agree, Rogue. I have massive respect for True and all of his buddies.
FOR THE MINMATAR! FOR THE TRIBAL LIBERATION FORCES! TO HELL WITH THE IMPERIALS!
TO HELL WITH THE AMARR!
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
895
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:15:00 -
[29] - Quote
I tend to not use proto gear because i know that caldari will lose once I see who's fighting for the enemies side.
I just thorw on a STD raven suit, rail rilfe, and just strut around and pop derps as see them.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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pseudosnipre
415
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:16:00 -
[30] - Quote
Agent Monroe wrote:How to tell someones an idiot. They think Gallente/Minmatar isn't easy mode atm. If I run scout with AA off in Gal/Min FW can we agree it's medium mode? =p
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5238
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:18:00 -
[31] - Quote
D0LPH ZIGGLER wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Stuff. I can't believe I'm "defending" True, but wind your neck in dude... True, his PIE buddies and now his new corp do deserve respect, if nothing else. While my distaste for True in the RP world is apparent I do give him and the rest of the Amarr loyalist respect and credit on the battlefield when/where needed. You're probably in the wrong timezone, so don't assume they are not fighting for their cause. I totally agree, Rogue. I have massive respect for True and all of his buddies.
****.....well that's cool.
Yeah I have much respect and comradery with those guys from the 1.6 FW scene....
Now that FW is lacking any real loyalty any more well I have very little respect for the new guys who have entered. They certainly are no Science for Death or New Age Outlaws.
Oh and Rogue I do so love tanking with Lorhak, he's a really cool guy.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5239
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:19:00 -
[32] - Quote
Kasote Denzara wrote:True Adamance wrote: Frankly speaking I havent heard of you in Min FW meaning you are pretty much irrelevant to the scene.
Out of all the things I could of possibly singled out, I'm going to do this one. GOOD!I don't want you to know me. I don't want you to see me. I don't want you to remember me. You are a nothing to me and that is how everyone from an opposing faction SHOULD see each other. There's no sentimental values to be had here. It's the people with no name that have done more than you could possibly imagine. And I do remember you from a FW a few weeks ago. I shot at your tank with a Breach and you ran from me. From one soldier. I laugh whenever you put something up about tanks because I remember that you fled from a single red. A single Wiyrkomi. You later came back around and attempted to spawn trap with a Maddy, but that failed too. From all the jousts I have in Minmitar FW lately, you are not there. Out of all the defend orders I do for them, you are not there. Where are you? The hours I spend in FW... where are you? Just... where are you? So I can blow up your tank without even using a heavy weapon. Never forget that it's the people you don't remember that are the worst to run into. You may not know them, but they may know you. You putting yourself out as a HAVer makes it easier on me to remember you. I'll be keeping an eye out for you. P.S. If you really believe that being known is important, you don't belong here. You really don't.
Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1334
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:22:00 -
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I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-)
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5239
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:56:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-)
I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys.
THAR BE TROLLS IN FW!
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
45
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Posted - 2013.12.24 05:19:00 -
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FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5240
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Posted - 2013.12.24 05:53:00 -
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Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots.
NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY.
If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec.
We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable.
PC even more so for competition.
FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Chris F2112
Pradox One Proficiency V.
522
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:09:00 -
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A bunch of the members from Pradox were queue syncing Caldari FW today, won every battle. There's just not as many corps doing it because you need one or two full squads to even make a dent in the horrible blues that you find in Caldari battles.
Anyways, once the player market comes out the Caldari loyalty store stuff is going to sell at a premium over the Gallente stuff that you can simply AFK for. That might get some people who are looking for ISK to fight for the Caldari again. |
Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
46
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY. If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec. We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable. PC even more so for competition. FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side. I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out. |
Chris F2112
Pradox One Proficiency V.
524
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:19:00 -
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Faunher wrote: I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out.
It'll be fine once the market comes out and you can buy your fits for the gear that you sell. CCP said that they were balancing this for the player market, so there's going to be inherent problems that can only be fixed by the addition of the market. |
Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
46
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:30:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Faunher wrote: I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out.
It'll be fine once the market comes out and you can buy your fits for the gear that you sell. CCP said that they were balancing this for the player market, so there's going to be inherent problems that can only be fixed by the addition of the market. Okay, hopefully that ends up working. CCP has a tendency of messing things up though so I won't be getting my hopes up. |
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1555
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
I actually ran into Senator Snipe quite a bit in 1.6. He used the assault FGs whenever I saw him, so it was hilarious to pop him with the standard (at those times we were on the opposite sides). Cyrius? I've seen Cyrius and he's not bad. I don't think I've engaged with him in FG fights before like the other one you mentioned, but I have seen him about the field and I'd love to engage him if I find myself on the opposite team.
Rolling back to the situation of Amarr versus Minmatar- I've been siding with Amarr a lot lately and we win nearly all the games. A lot of good fights, despite Minmatar being little ***** and attempting to lag bomb (seriously, every time they do, we clone them out of spite). I don't believe it's the blueberries that are the problem. I believe Amarr is "too concentrated" at certain points in time. Sure, having everyone good on one side in a battle is grand and all, but what about the other fights?
I end the day with Amarr between 13 to 20 percent in control. Next day, they are back at zero. It's also my belief that there isn't enough manpower to keep control of what little there is after (my) day is done, unlike Minmatar. My suggestion at this point is to thin out a bit of the manpower, so we don't keep defending something repeatedly that we just took.
That's my two ISK, at least.
Added note: I still haven't seen you in there. `.`
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
612
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:47:00 -
[42] - Quote
Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what? We don't have space for them.Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people. For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now? You may not realize it (I hope you were joking in this post) but you were conversing with THE RPer on these forums. ****, we can argue that it was the Amarr corps that inspired all the other knock-off corps in other factions.
The Last Of The BHD
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5241
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:07:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what? We don't have space for them.Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people. For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now? You may not realize it (I hope you were joking in this post) but you were conversing with THE RPer on these forums. ****, we can argue that it was the Amarr corps that inspired all the other knock-off corps in other factions.
LAWL really?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Big E Langst0n
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-) I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys. THAR BE TROLLS IN FW!
DUDE I WAS SO MAD! Me, Cyrius, and Darth (I think) were driving to Objective D and we never realized that some damn blueberry put REs on our vehicle and blew us up on the way -.- |
Big E Langst0n
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY. If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec. We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable. PC even more so for competition. FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side.
THIS. FW is about Loyalty... that is the best thing about FW. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5270
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:38:00 -
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Big E Langst0n wrote:True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-) I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys. THAR BE TROLLS IN FW! DUDE I WAS SO MAD! Me, Cyrius, and Darth (I think) were driving to Objective D and we never realized that some damn blueberry put REs on our vehicle and blew us up on the way -.-
THAT WAS IT.... yeah I'd be pissed too. I was driving my Maddy out around to D to snipe enemy HAV when I saw that, drove off the edge of the Caldera, flipped the tank and was too busy laughing to worry about winning that match.
I did snipe 6 of your teams tanks though, and I was on the look out for you guys but as usual you squad and my tank prove to be on the opposite objectives to one another.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Dra Xu
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.12.26 07:09:00 -
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2 squads of my corp mates play Amarr FW every night for two weeks , and win every battle. I thought Amar FW is easy mode.
Maybe you just need a well-cooperated team, then every Faction would be easy mode. |
Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
83
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Kasote Denzara wrote:True Adamance wrote: Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
I actually ran into Senator Snipe quite a bit in 1.6. He used the assault FGs whenever I saw him, so it was hilarious to pop him with the standard (at those times we were on the opposite sides). Cyrius? I've seen Cyrius and he's not bad. I don't think I've engaged with him in FG fights before like the other one you mentioned, but I have seen him about the field and I'd love to engage him if I find myself on the opposite team. Rolling back to the situation of Amarr versus Minmatar- I've been siding with Amarr a lot lately and we win nearly all the games. A lot of good fights, despite Minmatar being little ***** and attempting to lag bomb (seriously, every time they do, we clone them out of spite). I don't believe it's the blueberries that are the problem. I believe Amarr is "too concentrated" at certain points in time. Sure, having everyone good on one side in a battle is grand and all, but what about the other fights? I end the day with Amarr between 13 to 20 percent in control. Next day, they are back at zero. It's also my belief that there isn't enough manpower to keep control of what little there is after (my) day is done, unlike Minmatar. My suggestion at this point is to thin out a bit of the manpower, so we don't keep defending something repeatedly that we just took. That's my two ISK, at least. Added note: I still haven't seen you in there. `.`
I don't recognize you at all lol. The assault forge gun is much easier to use when trying to take down tanks and is much harder to use when taking down infantry comparing it to the standard forge guns. The assault forge gun require timing and your hands have to get used to being a forge gun (considering most of your kills are indirect damage like mines). If i used the standard forge gun it would be extremely easy killing infantry. I would just have a hard time taking out the tanks.
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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