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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:17:00 -
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That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:45:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:That's because Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode, and by easy mode I mean you could run in circles inside your MCC the entire match and still win 90% of the time. So of course, everyone is queuing Gallente and Minmatar with not nearly as many queuing for for Amarr and Caldari hard mode.
In fact, the only real benefit Amarr and Caldari FW has at the moment is it only take 5 seconds to find a match and we never get scotty errors. Easy? Ha. Caldari are too afraid to use anything more than militia and BPO. I'll give credit to the Amarr and say they put up a lot more of a fight than Caldari, but, just like Caldari (but to a lesser degree, since I actually see advanced gear and rare prototype), afraid to rally and use the better things. I've seen quite a few Q-synced squads for both- they still get crushed whenever we ("we" as in both Gallente and Minmitar) have more than just randoms. Minmitar's blues have this awful habit of letting other blues get shot in the back and then try to kill the red, only to fail. Gallente blues have a habit of throwing themselves into blenders, but that can't be help. What can be helped, however, is the fact that most of the Gallente FWs I've been part of... we squad and ultimately cover the needed points. I've been on the Caldari's side before and the lack of organization was hilarious. Hell, I don't even use a mic and I work just fine with the people I squad with. Long live the Federation!
You're looking at this wrong. Do you really think the Gallente and Minmatar tryhards are so much better than the Amarr and Caldari tryhards? I'd say they're pretty even in tryhardness. Do you honestly believe the Amarr and Caldari guys are afraid to use expensive gear? HA! Get your head on straight. The people using MLT and STD gear in FW are using it because they don't have anything else.
When I squad for Amarr, I win the good majority of the time. When I q-sync for Amarr, I haven't lost yet (with some great matches against q-synced Minmatar btw). It's just that the Gallente and Minmatar have a lot more supporters (probably because they are the perceived "good guys") and thus all the new players who don't have anything better than MLT or STD gear and have all four boxes checked for FW end up getting placed on Amarr and Caldari in order for matches to start.
Again, Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode. Fact. Don't believe me? Test it yourself. Check all four boxes in FW and see what team you get placed on. And the people who have all the boxes checked are, again, the people who don't have anything better than MLT and STD. That's why you stroll through most your matches.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:56:00 -
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With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:10:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:
You're looking at this wrong. Do you really think the Gallente and Minmatar tryhards are so much better than the Amarr and Caldari tryhards? I'd say they're pretty even in tryhardness. Do you honestly believe the Amarr and Caldari guys are afraid to use expensive gear? HA! Get your head on straight. The people using MLT and STD gear in FW are using it because they don't have anything else.
When I squad for Amarr, I win the good majority of the time. When I q-sync for Amarr, I haven't lost yet (with some great matches against q-synced Minmatar btw). It's just that the Gallente and Minmatar have a lot more supporters (probably because they are the perceived "good guys") and thus all the new players who don't have anything better than MLT or STD gear and have all four boxes checked for FW end up getting placed on Amarr and Caldari in order for matches to start.
Again, Gallente and Minmatar are easy mode. Fact. Don't believe me? Test it yourself. Check all four boxes in FW and see what team you get placed on. And the people who have all the boxes checked are, again, the people who don't have anything better than MLT and STD. That's why you stroll through most your matches.
I "stoll" through all my matches because I take objectives. I counter-hack. I guard the objectives. I'm not specialized into one thing. I don't just slay. I don't clutch onto a single weapon. I don't walk in a singe suit. I am the jack of all (infantry) trades. I do exactly what the **** we need. Need a guard dog? Heavy here. Need a support unit? Logibro here. Need a place secured? Scout here. I do it all. I painstakingly went this route some time ago. The "easy mode" Gallente? You shitting me? I roll into squads with fellow jacks (of all trades) quite often. We do what's needed. The Gallente I run into are often friendly with one another. When I enter the lobby, I see people squading or already squaded. If there's a place open, I slip into it. From there? I fill the holes that are created. It's that simple. Hell, from time to time I lol about in the starter fit. Kidding me? There's usually an AFKer on our side, if not three to four. You know what we do? We bring better gear, carry those AFKers. There was a separation when FW 2.0 arrived. People chose their side and now we have the result. If you really wanted to help your team, train the goddamn blues. Don't just sit there sobbing in a corner because you aren't getting your way. We Gallente take care of the Academy people that come in. I've been on Caldari's side. The anti-social fucks like leaving their blues for dead. Want to help? Do something.
Can you honestly not comprehend how the new players with nothing better than MLT or STD gear are populating the Amarr and Caldari sides not because they chose those factions but because they are the shortest queues?
Stop flattering yourself acting like you're just a far superior player than those who actually choose to fight for Amarr or Caldari. Again, keyword here being CHOOSE, instead of the new players who have everything checked and only end up on our teams because it's the shorter queue. Do you really think those who CHOOSE Amarr and Caldari don't understand the concepts of taking objectives, counter hacking, guarding, and having a wide diversity of fittings? Come on man, you're letting Gallente easy mode get to your head and inflate your ego.
Gallente and Minmatar FW are Easy Mode because- There's a large portion of players with all four boxes checked.
- These players have nothing better than STD gear and don't quite understand the objectives of Skirmish
- Because of queue lengths, nearly all these said players will populate Amarr and Caldari factions, giving the infamous illusion that Amarr and Caldari somehow have worse blueberries than everyone else. But again, these aren't Amarr or Caldari blueberries, they are just Dust blueberries who get placed on Amarr and Caldari because queue lengths and they don't know how to specifically check which faction to fight for.
So Gallente and Minmatar will more often than not always have a match where a bunch of their opponents are the mentioned MLT and STD blueberries diluting the actual Amarr and Caldari player base. But hey, I'm glad you're getting a big head from stomping new players.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:22:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:With the above said, I think it'd be really interesting if CCP made it so you had to manually place the check next to the boxes before you can play FW instead of it being all boxes checked by default. I swear most the newer players don't even know there are boxes to check off. You make it so they have to decide which factions to check off (and can still check all four if they really want to) and then we'll see less of these guys filling up Amarr and Caldari simply because it's the shortest queue. If you're a Gallente or Minmatar player, queue times will be even longer than they are now. However, the matches would be much more competitive. They could even pre-select based on your character race, maybe not perfect but could funnel some of the scrubs elsewhere  NPE is needed for FW too.
Having it preselected based on your race could work, but I don't see why CCP can't simply make it so the first time you click on "Factional Contracts" in the battle finder you are required to manually place at least one check mark next to a faction. But yes, these guys need to be spread out better.
Also this problem only came up because among the people who actually choose which faction they want to fight for, far more people choose Gallente and Minmatar over Amarr and Caldari. I'm not sure if that's because of how CCP is portraying their lore to characters or which gear is available to each faction or a combination of many things, but they should definitely look into it. A good place to start would be continuing to work on racial parity of weapons and suits and such.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:18:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:
I say this because if more of the Caldari's side would of used as much gear as we were throwing out, they would of beaten a lot more of us down. I hear that a number of Caldari's players are... poor. Understandable, given the nature of the other modes as of late.
What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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