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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:18:00 -
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D0LPH ZIGGLER wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Stuff. I can't believe I'm "defending" True, but wind your neck in dude... True, his PIE buddies and now his new corp do deserve respect, if nothing else. While my distaste for True in the RP world is apparent I do give him and the rest of the Amarr loyalist respect and credit on the battlefield when/where needed. You're probably in the wrong timezone, so don't assume they are not fighting for their cause. I totally agree, Rogue. I have massive respect for True and all of his buddies.
****.....well that's cool.
Yeah I have much respect and comradery with those guys from the 1.6 FW scene....
Now that FW is lacking any real loyalty any more well I have very little respect for the new guys who have entered. They certainly are no Science for Death or New Age Outlaws.
Oh and Rogue I do so love tanking with Lorhak, he's a really cool guy.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5239
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:19:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:True Adamance wrote: Frankly speaking I havent heard of you in Min FW meaning you are pretty much irrelevant to the scene.
Out of all the things I could of possibly singled out, I'm going to do this one. GOOD!I don't want you to know me. I don't want you to see me. I don't want you to remember me. You are a nothing to me and that is how everyone from an opposing faction SHOULD see each other. There's no sentimental values to be had here. It's the people with no name that have done more than you could possibly imagine. And I do remember you from a FW a few weeks ago. I shot at your tank with a Breach and you ran from me. From one soldier. I laugh whenever you put something up about tanks because I remember that you fled from a single red. A single Wiyrkomi. You later came back around and attempted to spawn trap with a Maddy, but that failed too. From all the jousts I have in Minmitar FW lately, you are not there. Out of all the defend orders I do for them, you are not there. Where are you? The hours I spend in FW... where are you? Just... where are you? So I can blow up your tank without even using a heavy weapon. Never forget that it's the people you don't remember that are the worst to run into. You may not know them, but they may know you. You putting yourself out as a HAVer makes it easier on me to remember you. I'll be keeping an eye out for you. P.S. If you really believe that being known is important, you don't belong here. You really don't.
Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1334
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:22:00 -
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I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-)
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5239
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:56:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-)
I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys.
THAR BE TROLLS IN FW!
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
45
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Posted - 2013.12.24 05:19:00 -
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FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5240
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Posted - 2013.12.24 05:53:00 -
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Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots.
NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY.
If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec.
We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable.
PC even more so for competition.
FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Chris F2112
Pradox One Proficiency V.
522
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:09:00 -
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A bunch of the members from Pradox were queue syncing Caldari FW today, won every battle. There's just not as many corps doing it because you need one or two full squads to even make a dent in the horrible blues that you find in Caldari battles.
Anyways, once the player market comes out the Caldari loyalty store stuff is going to sell at a premium over the Gallente stuff that you can simply AFK for. That might get some people who are looking for ISK to fight for the Caldari again. |
Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
46
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY. If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec. We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable. PC even more so for competition. FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side. I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out. |
Chris F2112
Pradox One Proficiency V.
524
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:19:00 -
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Faunher wrote: I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out.
It'll be fine once the market comes out and you can buy your fits for the gear that you sell. CCP said that they were balancing this for the player market, so there's going to be inherent problems that can only be fixed by the addition of the market. |
Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
46
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:30:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Faunher wrote: I agree, it definitely should be about loyalty. I am loyal to the Matari myself, in EVE and Dust. The problem is that is isn't about loyalty. There are not enough repercussions against turncoating to farm for your fits, and there are not enough benefits to stay loyal. I liked how FW was about loyalty before the LP store came out.
It'll be fine once the market comes out and you can buy your fits for the gear that you sell. CCP said that they were balancing this for the player market, so there's going to be inherent problems that can only be fixed by the addition of the market. Okay, hopefully that ends up working. CCP has a tendency of messing things up though so I won't be getting my hopes up. |
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1555
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
I actually ran into Senator Snipe quite a bit in 1.6. He used the assault FGs whenever I saw him, so it was hilarious to pop him with the standard (at those times we were on the opposite sides). Cyrius? I've seen Cyrius and he's not bad. I don't think I've engaged with him in FG fights before like the other one you mentioned, but I have seen him about the field and I'd love to engage him if I find myself on the opposite team.
Rolling back to the situation of Amarr versus Minmatar- I've been siding with Amarr a lot lately and we win nearly all the games. A lot of good fights, despite Minmatar being little ***** and attempting to lag bomb (seriously, every time they do, we clone them out of spite). I don't believe it's the blueberries that are the problem. I believe Amarr is "too concentrated" at certain points in time. Sure, having everyone good on one side in a battle is grand and all, but what about the other fights?
I end the day with Amarr between 13 to 20 percent in control. Next day, they are back at zero. It's also my belief that there isn't enough manpower to keep control of what little there is after (my) day is done, unlike Minmatar. My suggestion at this point is to thin out a bit of the manpower, so we don't keep defending something repeatedly that we just took.
That's my two ISK, at least.
Added note: I still haven't seen you in there. `.`
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
612
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:47:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what? We don't have space for them.Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people. For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now? You may not realize it (I hope you were joking in this post) but you were conversing with THE RPer on these forums. ****, we can argue that it was the Amarr corps that inspired all the other knock-off corps in other factions.
The Last Of The BHD
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5241
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:07:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: What part of this do you not grasp? The Caldari's side can't use as much top end gear as you were because their players literally can't, they don't have the skills. Why? Because they're being filled up by the random scrubs (for lack of a better term) with low SP and don't understand how to specify which faction to fight for, thus get placed on Caldari due to shorter queues.
Where's your loyalists? Where's Amarr's? Do you two need a ****** event just to group up? Is both Amarr and Caldari that weak? Both Gallente AND Minmitar not only took back the territory that was taken, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING FOR US, and then continued to take. When FW 2.0 hit, you know what happened? Can you comprehend that both Minmitar and Gallente went against the odds and WON? "But Gallente didn't have stupid blues..." Bullshit. We had to endure those ******* for a long time. Now that there are more Gallente and Minmitar corps dedicated to the cause, you know what? We don't have space for them.Here's a concept: Q-sync, make friends, grab them, sync even more, repeat until you feel you can handle reds that consist of a bunch of randoms and two squads that consists of a max of three same corp people. For ****'s sake. It's not that difficult. For the past thirty minutes or so before downtime, Caldari actually held three to five slabs of territory. You know what? We took it back. Randoms, AFKers, and bullet magnets all around took back what was shortly taken. Caldari has, what, two now? You may not realize it (I hope you were joking in this post) but you were conversing with THE RPer on these forums. ****, we can argue that it was the Amarr corps that inspired all the other knock-off corps in other factions.
LAWL really?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Big E Langst0n
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-) I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys. THAR BE TROLLS IN FW!
DUDE I WAS SO MAD! Me, Cyrius, and Darth (I think) were driving to Objective D and we never realized that some damn blueberry put REs on our vehicle and blew us up on the way -.- |
Big E Langst0n
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
47
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Faunher wrote:FW isn't about loyalty, hell, New Eden in general isn't about loyalty. It's about money. EVE is starting to drift away from the four factions, power is starting to shift into the hands of the capsuleers. Why don't we do the same? Long live the Mercs United Front!
In all seriousness though, you can't complain about how it isn't fair that you end up with all the blueberries. It really isn't that difficult to squad up and q sync. Also, blueberries with the 4 boxes checked is not an excuse because you guys get all the blue berries. If all four boxes are checked, they can potentially be put into any team. And anyways, it's the Minmatar and the Gallente that are probably getting most of the blues, seeing how Caldari and Amarr always seem to have to wait to fill up their slots. NO FW IS EXACTLY ABOUT LOYAL:TY. If you aren't loyal then you can be in Null Sec reaping far greater rewards, if you don't want to fight you have low sec. We have Pub matches just to fight in for games, they are more profitable. PC even more so for competition. FW is about loyalty, it should be about loyalty. Hell no empire is stupid enough to keep re hiring a merc who actively fights or the other side.
THIS. FW is about Loyalty... that is the best thing about FW. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
5270
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:38:00 -
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Big E Langst0n wrote:True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I fought for the Caldari once and got blown up by a teammate while hacking an objective then next match I presided to practice my flying skills by diving my dropships into objectives :-) I went into a match against NAO, some guy must have remoted them as a troll but it was hilarious to see this randoms name followed by the NAO guys. THAR BE TROLLS IN FW! DUDE I WAS SO MAD! Me, Cyrius, and Darth (I think) were driving to Objective D and we never realized that some damn blueberry put REs on our vehicle and blew us up on the way -.-
THAT WAS IT.... yeah I'd be pissed too. I was driving my Maddy out around to D to snipe enemy HAV when I saw that, drove off the edge of the Caldera, flipped the tank and was too busy laughing to worry about winning that match.
I did snipe 6 of your teams tanks though, and I was on the look out for you guys but as usual you squad and my tank prove to be on the opposite objectives to one another.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Dra Xu
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.12.26 07:09:00 -
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2 squads of my corp mates play Amarr FW every night for two weeks , and win every battle. I thought Amar FW is easy mode.
Maybe you just need a well-cooperated team, then every Faction would be easy mode. |
Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
83
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:28:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:True Adamance wrote: Few Weeks ago is 1.6.
BreachFG? Yup I couldn't see you past 50m. Still you are no Senator Snipe or Cyrius Li Moody
I actually ran into Senator Snipe quite a bit in 1.6. He used the assault FGs whenever I saw him, so it was hilarious to pop him with the standard (at those times we were on the opposite sides). Cyrius? I've seen Cyrius and he's not bad. I don't think I've engaged with him in FG fights before like the other one you mentioned, but I have seen him about the field and I'd love to engage him if I find myself on the opposite team. Rolling back to the situation of Amarr versus Minmatar- I've been siding with Amarr a lot lately and we win nearly all the games. A lot of good fights, despite Minmatar being little ***** and attempting to lag bomb (seriously, every time they do, we clone them out of spite). I don't believe it's the blueberries that are the problem. I believe Amarr is "too concentrated" at certain points in time. Sure, having everyone good on one side in a battle is grand and all, but what about the other fights? I end the day with Amarr between 13 to 20 percent in control. Next day, they are back at zero. It's also my belief that there isn't enough manpower to keep control of what little there is after (my) day is done, unlike Minmatar. My suggestion at this point is to thin out a bit of the manpower, so we don't keep defending something repeatedly that we just took. That's my two ISK, at least. Added note: I still haven't seen you in there. `.`
I don't recognize you at all lol. The assault forge gun is much easier to use when trying to take down tanks and is much harder to use when taking down infantry comparing it to the standard forge guns. The assault forge gun require timing and your hands have to get used to being a forge gun (considering most of your kills are indirect damage like mines). If i used the standard forge gun it would be extremely easy killing infantry. I would just have a hard time taking out the tanks.
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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