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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:49:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:At what range are you supposed to actually fight against these things? They're good out to 100m. They fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. CQC is just as if not even more dangerous due to the high ROF, high alpha, and super tight hipfire spread. You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat.
Where are these things supposed to be bad again?
Here I am supposed to be the mid to short range champ in my minmatar assault, combat rifle, and smg and I can't out range them. I can't fight them in CQC. I can't out run them. I can't out flank them. I pretty much have to rely on them being slow or not good players. my Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle would say otherwise...
but in all seriousness, i don't have too many problems with scrambler rifles. i've found that if you get the drop on them, then they will fall fairly easily.even logistics gk.0s aren't TOO much of a problem anymore.
and to be honest, i kind of like that. FoTM is not as effective because if i get the drop on him, he'll still go down pretty easily.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3387
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:54:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :)
Im done proving facts.the QQ never ends,and will never end... Im defending the weapon. Im not ashamed of saying it. In fact, im defending EVERY rifle.,not only the SCR.
You see , thats the thing? I dont fwant further arguments and discussions.
''New , to the post i quoted, well i think amarr Assaults need a 10% Heat buildup reduction per level instead of 5%''
see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
681
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :) Im done proving facts.the QQ never ends,and will never end... Im defending the weapon. Im not ashamed of saying it.In fact, im defending EVERY rifle.,not only the SCR. You see , thats the thing? I dont fwant further arguments and discussions. ''New , to the post i quoted, well i think amarr Assaults need a 10% Heat buildup reduction per level instead of 5%'' see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong.
There is QQ about everything though my friend, and you and I both know that the ScR is and has been perfect ever since its inclusion to the game.
All I'm saying is if you present your arguments unbiasedly and inoffensively you have a better chance of having your reader actually understand what you are saying, thats all.
On that note (Warning: Argument incoming :D) I disagree, the ScR is already an amazing weapon (albeit punishes trigger spammers) even without the Assault ak.0 and so is the CR but I want all the assault suits to have a similar bonus that makes their respective faction's weapons that much more effective, like the Assault ak.0 does.
Everyone knows to fear a good Assault ak.0 brandishing a ScR.
I want people to fear an Assault mk.0 Brandishing a CR and an Assault ck.0 brandishing a RR
And for completeness sake, everyone fears the Duvolle; especially a Assault gk.0 since their bonus allows them to fit better modules while brandishing an already beastly weapon
The Sinwarden
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
675
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:15:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :) see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong.
No doubt. I've really been enjoying the hell out of the ACR. I run the adv version on my gk.0 scout with a proto ASP. People never see this coming. I can put down at least two people with the ACR and if I run out I just swap to the SP which can easily take out another two. The best fun with this is when you get in to a CQB with some one who is really good, and strafes you out of your clip, and just when they think they got you, that's when you swap over to that pro ASP and sing'em a lullaby. I'd give anything just to be able to see the look on the faces of the people I've done this to so far.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
958
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:22:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down.
Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them.
Truth. Multiple flank and surround SCR users. They may kill one red but add 2-3 more and coming towards them and it is over. They need a 6 second cool down+ a reload in order to take the other 2 down and if you are quick, they won't have that chance. It will be over faster if they don't have cover. If they DO AND they have enough distance, they will pop out with a charge shot and end you. It's all about awareness tbh.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3389
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:36:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :) Im done proving facts.the QQ never ends,and will never end... Im defending the weapon. Im not ashamed of saying it.In fact, im defending EVERY rifle.,not only the SCR. You see , thats the thing? I dont fwant further arguments and discussions. ''New , to the post i quoted, well i think amarr Assaults need a 10% Heat buildup reduction per level instead of 5%'' see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong. There is QQ about everything though my friend, and you and I both know that the ScR is and has been perfect ever since its inclusion to the game. All I'm saying is if you present your arguments unbiasedly and inoffensively you have a better chance of having your reader actually understand what you are saying, thats all. On that note (Warning: Argument incoming :D) I disagree, the ScR is already an amazing weapon (albeit punishes trigger spammers) even without the Assault ak.0 and so is the CR but I want all the assault suits to have a similar bonus that makes their respective faction's weapons that much more effective, like the Assault ak.0 does. Everyone knows to fear a good Assault ak.0 brandishing a ScR. I want people to fear an Assault mk.0 Brandishing a CR and an Assault ck.0 brandishing a RR And for completeness sake, everyone fears the Duvolle; especially a Assault gk.0 since their bonus allows them to fit better modules while brandishing an already beastly weapon
Since i will keep my bad attitude for now, i'll stop posting then. With you and lea is enough to bring some light to the thread....
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
682
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:44:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Since i will keep my bad attitude for now, i'll stop posting then. With you and lea is enough to bring some light to the thread....
We can start another thread if you wish and discuss for discussions sake? But we've gone on tangent enough, Cyrius to refer back to the OP, what are your thoughts after listening to some of the dedicated Scrambler Rifle users' opinions?
The Sinwarden
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3393
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:46:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Since i will keep my bad attitude for now, i'll stop posting then. With you and lea is enough to bring some light to the thread.... We can start another thread if you wish and discuss for discussions sake? But we've gone on tangent enough, Cyrius to refer back to the OP, what are your thoughts after listening to some of the dedicated Scrambler Rifle users' opinions?
I dont know. My opinion is pretty much all in here already:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130608&find=unread
Give it a quick read, its real short.
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