DUST Search - A serious question about Scrambler Rifles

1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:

Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:

People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance.

I'm in no way being defensive of the weapon. In fact I believe all weapons are good from the hip in CQC... Combat Rifles are AMAZING in Hip Fire CQC, Rail Rifle's are equally as amazing in the right hands, and I dont even have to say anything about the AR

I would know since I have all 4 rifles with at least prof 2

It is an Amarr made Assault RIfle, it isn't a Niche Weapon, its the standard issue rifle of the Amarr Faction and I believe that all the weapons now are equally as devastating when used correctly.

For me the ScR is like a mid range sniper rifle; when used by Caldari, Minmatar or Gallente suits you have powerful Charge shots that could critically wound an opponent but is limited by its extreme heat build up thus working like a low ROF Sniper RIfle; focusing on making every charge shot count with a generous delay between charge shots for cooldown to take place

But

With the ak.0 and its heat sink, it turns into the Dust equivalent to a modern Designated Marksman Rifle, able to fire highly accurate, damaging rounds down a very generous range, but still able to be used as a breaching tool in mid and close ranged combat.

Just like the CR is the equivalent to the modern Famas

the AR to a M4A1

and the RR to an LMG like the SAW

I'd say the ScR is a cross between a DMR and an M1 Garand :D

To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.

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Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2356	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:29:00 - [31] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Another QQ post wrote: You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Exaggerating much? Pro-Tip: Don't run straight at a scrambler, take him out from the flank. You'll be surprised how much better you will do if you start playing smart. Lol. What do you think i do wave, ask him for a cup of tea? When you flank, get the jump, get that half second advantage and still get 1200 damage to you at 3m in a couple shots it's frustrating. When you're flanking and trying to keep moving cover to cover and then he hits you for literally 1800 damage in an instant it's pretty frustrating. Also, yeah I use this thing and you rarely have to reload it as it only takes like 5 rounds to kill a guy if you're not a horrible shot. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 678	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:30:00 - [32] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: I still find it a problem that there isn't a single weapon 'bar shotgun/novas' that can 1v1 a SINGLE player using scramblers. Again, that is the point of the Scrambler Rifle, you have the ability to dominate a single opponent with immense amounts of alpha damage potential but its overheat mechanic limits its target effectiveness to one opponent at a time, because if not, you seize up and are unable to sprint or change weapons. Unlike the Duvolle AR, Kaalakiota RR and the Boundless Combat RIfle which has the potential damage output and clip size to take out more than one opponent before having to reload But there are other factors which skilled ScR players use like heat management, delayed trigger firing or clever use of cover and as other people have mentioned shield tankers are the Amarr ScR Assault's natural prey. The Sinwarden
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5096	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:34:00 - [33] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Another QQ post wrote: You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Exaggerating much? Pro-Tip: Don't run straight at a scrambler, take him out from the flank. You'll be surprised how much better you will do if you start playing smart. Lol. What do you think i do wave, ask him for a cup of tea? When you flank, get the jump, get that half second advantage and still get 1200 damage to you at 3m in a couple shots it's frustrating. When you're flanking and trying to keep moving cover to cover and then he hits you for literally 1800 damage in an instant it's pretty frustrating. Also, yeah I use this thing and you rarely have to reload it as it only takes like 5 rounds to kill a guy if you're not a horrible shot. I'd be nice if you did instead of having your lackey Mr Mustard shoot me in the head when I'm bringing you my world famous Nanohive scones.... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 678	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:36:00 - [34] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: At what range are you supposed to actually fight against these things? They're good out to 100m. They fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. CQC is just as if not even more dangerous due to the high ROF, high alpha, and super tight hipfire spread. You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Where are these things supposed to be bad again? Here I am supposed to be the mid to short range champ in my minmatar assault, combat rifle, and smg and I can't out range them. I can't fight them in CQC. I can't out run them. I can't out flank them. I pretty much have to rely on them being slow or not good players. QQ MOAR. Read the first 6-7 posts and learn something. LEt me tell you, if the SCR is so op how come is the LEAST used Rifle now?... Yeah, didnt think so. The mere fact it has a horrible OVERHEAT mechanic and 80% to armor (every other rifle has at MOST a 10% penalty on shield/armor) Makes them on par,if not UNDERPOWERED with the other rifles. Just ....shush... Hey come on now, lets have a civil discussion about this. I'm really liking the way the Rifle balance is in 1.7 I'm glad all the racial rifles are out now. I've died by a GEK, SB-39 AND RS-10 all in the same game. Its pretty cool. The Sinwarden
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2356	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:37:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Another QQ post wrote: You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Exaggerating much? Pro-Tip: Don't run straight at a scrambler, take him out from the flank. You'll be surprised how much better you will do if you start playing smart. Lol. What do you think i do wave, ask him for a cup of tea? When you flank, get the jump, get that half second advantage and still get 1200 damage to you at 3m in a couple shots it's frustrating. When you're flanking and trying to keep moving cover to cover and then he hits you for literally 1800 damage in an instant it's pretty frustrating. Also, yeah I use this thing and you rarely have to reload it as it only takes like 5 rounds to kill a guy if you're not a horrible shot. I'd be nice if you did instead of having your lackey Mr Mustard shoot me in the head when I'm bringing you my world famous Nanohive scones.... it's more like I'm his lackey. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 678	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:38:00 - [36] - Quote Also, I really really enjoy your vids Cyrius. I'd say your channel is my favorite Dust youtube channel +1 The Sinwarden
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2222	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:43:00 - [37] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down. Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them. I like dodging around their shots :) I played against CatDog once and dodged every one of his shots :D When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2356	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:43:00 - [38] - Quote People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2222	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:44:00 - [39] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance. It is ._. Should be lazor accurate and have slightly less damage in CQC IMO. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2356	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:46:00 - [40] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Also, I really really enjoy your vids Cyrius. I'd say your channel is my favorite Dust youtube channel +1 Thanks man. I try to be entertaining. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.

Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 207	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:56:00 - [41] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Another QQ post wrote: You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Exaggerating much? Pro-Tip: Don't run straight at a scrambler, take him out from the flank. You'll be surprised how much better you will do if you start playing smart. Cyrius ("Another QQ post" as you so stupidly put it!) is one of the best players of this game that I've ever seen and one of the best flankers in the game dude, watch his videos and then slowly feel the stupidity creeping up your face in the form of RED when you go back and read your words again - "start playing smart" and "Pro-Tip" hahahahaha you're funny, funny like a clown... Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5101	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:59:00 - [42] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Another QQ post wrote: You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Exaggerating much? Pro-Tip: Don't run straight at a scrambler, take him out from the flank. You'll be surprised how much better you will do if you start playing smart. Cyrius ("Another QQ post" as you so stupidly put it!) is one of the best players of this game that I've ever seen and one of the best flankers in the game dude, watch his videos and then slowly feel the stupidity creeping up your face in the form of RED when you go back and read your words again - "start playing smart" and "Pro-Tip" hahahahaha you're funny, funny like a clown... Don't I know it, but the ScR is a single taget high alpha gun, it fulfils its role as intended. Your corp primarily shield tanks I take it since you are the BEST Minmatar FW corp out there Dust side, then ScR eats you alive just like the CR eats us Amarr alive. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 678	Posted - 2013.12.20 02:59:00 - [43] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance. I'm in no way being defensive of the weapon. In fact I believe all weapons are good from the hip in CQC... Combat Rifles are AMAZING in Hip Fire CQC, Rail Rifle's are equally as amazing in the right hands, and I dont even have to say anything about the AR I would know since I have all 4 rifles with at least prof 2 It is an Amarr made Assault RIfle, it isn't a Niche Weapon, its the standard issue rifle of the Amarr Faction and I believe that all the weapons now are equally as devastating when used correctly. For me the ScR is like a mid range sniper rifle; when used by Caldari, Minmatar or Gallente suits you have powerful Charge shots that could critically wound an opponent but is limited by its extreme heat build up thus working like a low ROF Sniper RIfle; focusing on making every charge shot count with a generous delay between charge shots for cooldown to take place But With the ak.0 and its heat sink, it turns into the Dust equivalent to a modern Designated Marksman Rifle, able to fire highly accurate, damaging rounds down a very generous range, but still able to be used as a breaching tool in mid and close ranged combat. Just like the CR is the equivalent to the modern Famas the AR to a M4A1 and the RR to an LMG like the SAW I'd say the ScR is most like a Mk 14 EBR :D The Sinwarden
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5101	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:01:00 - [44] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance. I'm in no way being defensive of the weapon. In fact I believe all weapons are good from the hip in CQC... Combat Rifles are AMAZING in Hip Fire CQC, Rail Rifle's are equally as amazing in the right hands, and I dont even have to say anything about the AR I would know since I have all 4 rifles with at least prof 2 It is an Amarr made Assault RIfle, it isn't a Niche Weapon, its the standard issue rifle of the Amarr Faction and I believe that all the weapons now are equally as devastating when used correctly. For me the ScR is like a mid range sniper rifle; when used by Caldari, Minmatar or Gallente suits you have powerful Charge shots that could critically wound an opponent but is limited by its extreme heat build up thus working like a low ROF Sniper RIfle; focusing on making every charge shot count with a generous delay between charge shots for cooldown to take place But With the ak.0 and its heat sink, it turns into the Dust equivalent to a modern Designated Marksman Rifle, able to fire highly accurate, damaging rounds down a very generous range, but still able to be used as a breaching tool in mid and close ranged combat. Just like the CR is the equivalent to the modern Famas the AR to a M4A1 and the RR to an LMG like the SAW I'd say the ScR is a cross between a DMR and an M1 Garand :D I would have considered the Rail Rifles as the equivalent of the SCAR-H rifle. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 678	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:04:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People get really defensive of this thing. I just think it's way too good from the hip in CQC. Sorry folks that's my stance. Just like the CR is the equivalent to the modern Famas the AR to a M4A1 and the RR to an LMG like the SAW I'd say the ScR is a cross between a DMR and an M1 Garand :D I would have considered the Rail Rifles as the equivalent of the SCAR-H rifle. Oh good point, I definitely agree. I also edited the post to say the ScR was like an Mk 14 EBR instead lol But I digress. I say the RR is like a SAW because it just feels like such a powerful LMG when I'm firing at full auto into reds in open ground, watching their bodies go limp and fly off with every powerful round the Kaalakiota RR spits out The Sinwarden
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2357	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:07:00 - [46] - Quote The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. Can i haz extended clip? :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 679	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:12:00 - [47] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. I honestly don't see the point of using the Full auto CR From my experience and those of others I learned that If you get the "Tap" down with the boundless I guarantee people will be convinced that you're using a full auto weapon and not a burst fire, the 1200 RPM really rewards players with fast trigger fingers; the weapon has about 35 Damage per round which means at a 3 round burst it deals approximately 100 damage with a 120% effectiveness to armor, that is directly equivalent to the amount of damage available to ScR users bar the Charge shot. The Sinwarden
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:15:00 - [48] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down. Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them. Nah. If the gun is balanced it has a counter. And that counter would be a proper ACR/SMG+Strafe combo. They both have high rate of fire but ultimately the spray factor of the ACR/SMG is MUCH more effective. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5103	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:16:00 - [49] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. I honestly don't see the point of using the Full auto CR From my experience and those of others I learned that If you get the "Tap" down with the boundless I guarantee people will be convinced that you're using a full auto weapon and not a burst fire, the 1200 RPM really rewards players with fast trigger fingers; the weapon has about 35 Damage per round which means at a 3 round burst it deals approximately 100 damage with a 120% effectiveness to armor, that is directly equivalent to the amount of damage available to ScR users bar the Charge shot. Indeed I never thought about it like that..... I think I can pump out about 5-8 rounds a second with the ScR but with the CR I can easily match that volume of fire in bursts. Not to mention the CR is more forgiving when strafing. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 679	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:17:00 - [50] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. Can i haz extended clip? :D I think the Minmatar Assault bonus needs to apply to the Combat Rifle. The Amarr Assault is currently, IMO, the best assault suit in the game because it gives a direct bonus to the faction's weapons efficiency and effectiveness. An Increased Clip size to the Combat Rifle will make Minmatar Assault suits the best choice to use the CR with which would also increase its effectiveness If they brought back the Reload Speed bonus to Caldari Suits I think it would increase the effectiveness of Rail Rifles as well, able to spit out its ammo reserve of high damage rounds faster and with less delay (although the rifle suffers from low ammo count, more so than the Combat Rifle) I think the Gallente Assault bonus is spot on as well though The Sinwarden

Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 675	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:18:00 - [51] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: At what range are you supposed to actually fight against these things? They're good out to 100m. They fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. CQC is just as if not even more dangerous due to the high ROF, high alpha, and super tight hipfire spread. You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat. Where are these things supposed to be bad again? Here I am supposed to be the mid to short range champ in my minmatar assault, combat rifle, and smg and I can't out range them. I can't fight them in CQC. I can't out run them. I can't out flank them. I pretty much have to rely on them being slow or not good players. There largest drawback lies in the following: 120% damage to shield 80% damage to armor My main is a Gallente, and he eats scrambler rifles for breakfast. Its Alfa may be high but it is a major drawback to be so inefective against half the potential combatants on the battlefield (Amarr/Gallente). {:)}{3GÇó>
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 679	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:29:00 - [52] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down. Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them. Nah. If the gun is balanced it has a counter. And that counter would be a proper ACR/SMG+Strafe combo. They both have high rate of fire but ultimately the spray factor of the ACR/SMG is MUCH more effective. I'm not sure I completely understand what you're trying to say. The best counter to the ScR is an Assault Combat Rifle + SMG combo on a fast strafing suit? I definitely agree. Why'd you quote my post and say Nah tho? The Sinwarden
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 749	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:36:00 - [53] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down. Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them. Nah. If the gun is balanced it has a counter. And that counter would be a proper ACR/SMG+Strafe combo. They both have high rate of fire but ultimately the spray factor of the ACR/SMG is MUCH more effective. I'm not sure I completely understand what you're trying to say. The best counter to the ScR is an Assault Combat Rifle + SMG combo on a fast strafing suit? I definitely agree. Why'd you quote my post and say Nah tho? o-o I thought someone would get confused. I meant that either weapon would be useful in that situation. I quoted you because you said 1v1 and I disagreed lol. Were you only speaking about 1v1 with other Rifles? If so, can't disagree there. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 157	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:38:00 - [54] - Quote Hipfire box is broke ass, people are starting to think they are awesome because the hipfire box is too big and lets them spam trigger and kill anything. Make hip fire near laser sized and we will see people use the gun correctly, because honestly most of us don't and won't ever get paid to play games... we aren't that good. Sadly this gun give people a false sense of ability, "man im so good I go x-y every game and I have xx.xx kdr." I use it and it's broke, I'm decent at fps but this gun makes me jesus vs. dumb scrubs and almost any player not using the same gun. What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 679	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:39:00 - [55] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: The ScR is the best 1v1 weapon, if you take on any ScR user worth their salt solo you'll go down. Bring friends and rush em, I guarantee you will overwhelm them. Nah. If the gun is balanced it has a counter. And that counter would be a proper ACR/SMG+Strafe combo. They both have high rate of fire but ultimately the spray factor of the ACR/SMG is MUCH more effective. I'm not sure I completely understand what you're trying to say. The best counter to the ScR is an Assault Combat Rifle + SMG combo on a fast strafing suit? I definitely agree. Why'd you quote my post and say Nah tho? o-o I thought someone would get confused. I meant that either weapon would be useful in that situation. I quoted you because you said 1v1 and I disagreed lol. Were you only speaking about 1v1 with other Rifles? If so, can't disagree there. Oh I see, well yes a skilled player will of course dominate every 1v1 situation. BUT I believe that the ScR (as in the weapon itself) is the ultimate 1v1 weapon unlike the other rifles where the only limiting factor to engaging multiple targets is its clip size. Im speaking simply regarding weapon mechanics and characteristics The Sinwarden
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3386	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:42:00 - [56] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Hey come on now, lets have a civil discussion about this. I'm really liking the way the Rifle balance is in 1.7 I'm glad all the racial rifles are out now. I've died by a GEK, SB-39 AND RS-10 all in the same game. Its pretty cool. Im trying,but people sayign the SCR is ''OP'' is PURE saltiness. No one is even using them anymore because ofAuto versions ovf every other rifle and everybody is my butt at 80+mts with rail rifles and in CQ with A.CR/CR and somehow , the whine is still with the SCR... My patience has its limits ... And its not like if you NERF the SCR i cant just pick a RR and do equally good or better...Yesterday testing the damn weapons went 30-4 with a Dragonfly C-1 BPO and a basic RR LOL.. Yes , rifles feel pretty balanced now. The QQ against the SCR is uncalled for. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2358	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:43:00 - [57] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Oh I see, well yes a skilled player will of course dominate every 1v1 situation. BUT I believe that the ScR (as in the weapon itself) is the ultimate 1v1 weapon unlike the other rifles where the only limiting factor to engaging multiple targets is its clip size. Im speaking simply regarding weapon mechanics and characteristics I agree with this. Scrambler Pistols come at a close second if it was a fight within 20m. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3386	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:45:00 - [58] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. Can i haz extended clip? :D NO. THE ACR is a little like the SCR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon. If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. Ok, you can have an extended clip if i can remove the SCR overheat mechanic XD See? We both LOLed there.... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2358	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:46:00 - [59] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. Can i haz extended clip? :D NO. dakka dakka dakka dakka Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 680	Posted - 2013.12.20 03:49:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature. Can i haz extended clip? :D NO. THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon. If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now regarding the post I quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :) The Sinwarden



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