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          Karl Koekwaus 
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 14:11:00 -
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          It's a good troll, but with a functioning API, this is pretty much possible to do already. In EVE our corp spreadsheet honcho makes stuff like this up every month using the API. (not really like this, but lists with tax income per person, moon income, reaction income etc.)
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 14:25:00 -
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          Karl Koekwaus wrote:It's a good troll, but with a functioning API, this is pretty much possible to do already. In EVE our corp spreadsheet honcho makes stuff like this up every month using the API. (not really like this, but lists with tax income per person, moon income, reaction income etc.)   Well no kidding. If we could set up the right endpoints in CREST and have a API key management system for this data, this might be able to get off the ground relatively quickly.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 14:48:00 -
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          The Robot Devil wrote:Just because there is no news or dev comment doesn't mean that they didn't notice or aren't coding it right now. I understand that one person doing it seems fast but that isn't coding it into the game. One thing that CCP could do that would help is to create a reasonable things list like in EVE. I think it worked well and it gave a more focused way for the community and CCP to interact. 
  I think that it is a great idea and a tool that some corps would use but we need to stay focused on things that bring content in and make the experience better. We need three more things before we start adding shinny stuff to the corp menus, we need more gear, more maps and a player trading/market for us to get lost in.
    I agree that players, and myself, are incredibly hungry for the three course 'meaty' content types. There's still a powerful aspect to player retention that having a straightforward way to view one's contribution to the game would make all the difference. I am suggesting that all members have viewing access to records of each other corp member's Net Donations and Battle Taxes. Withdrawals would be reserved information to Accountants. I imagine it could also give some players a reason to keep grinding past their cap, or be more savvy in selling items to procure greater donation funds to bolster their position on the corp's MVP 'leader-board,' so to speak. To reiterate a point brought up on this topic: If you can visibly see that your actions matter and affect someone, or something, your going to develop a much longer term bond with a product and the community surrounding it.
  Another good point was brought up. 
 
 NDA Approved wrote:A stats tracking system could also make corporate takeovers and thefts that much more painful to bear because a player has a greater sense of exactly how much of their time and energy they poured into a organization.  Oh my, the tears and QQ would be that much sweeter    
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 14:51:00 -
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          Wilhelm Klingspor wrote:Nicely done, and a good way to illustrate a concept, if it wasnGÇÖt for the difference in fonts ( the i an the 0 ) you wouldGÇÖve had me.
    I was considering taking the time to hash out all the nuances of the custom text, yet for time and presentation of concept it felt close enough. I'm glad you are a discerning eye.  
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          Rynoceros 
          Rise Of Old Dudes
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 15:46:00 -
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          Excellent trollage.
  There were some planned changes to Corp UI coming in 1.8, but probably nothing this useful.
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          MySpaceTom 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 17:55:00 -
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           It honestly feels like your low-balling those figures. The CEO of a corporation that size (is WarRavens even that big) would withdraw far more than you have listed for PC battles alone. I wonder who the biggest contributor in that bunch is? Ian thebarbarian?
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:02:00 -
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          MySpaceTom wrote:It honestly feels like your low-balling those figures. The CEO of a corporation that size (is WarRavens even that big) would withdraw far more than you have listed for PC battles alone. I wonder who the biggest contributor in that bunch is? Ian thebarbarian?   Probably.  
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          Djinn b4lock 
          Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:07:00 -
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          ^ ^ You troll with goodwill and admiration for fellow Dusters? My heart, it feels....like it's growing a few sizes bigger. I approve of this forum service.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:10:00 -
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          WarRavens helped me get my start in Dust. They are an amazing group of individuals!
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          Roy Ventus 
          Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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          NDA Approved wrote:I wonder who leaked it?  
  Your name is so relevant that I'm sure udunit.
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:16:00 -
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          Roy Ventus wrote:NDA Approved wrote:I wonder who leaked it?  Your name is so relevant that I'm sure udunit.   Who? Me? I would never betray a legal agreement. That would nullify the longevity of my namesake!
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          Seems Good 
          Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:18:00 -
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.19 18:21:00 -
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          Seems Good wrote:The question is, can we trust her?    Yes, my name is Harvi-jo Dent. I am the dame this city deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.20 19:07:00 -
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          The mega file has been uncovered!
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          Wilhelm Klingspor 
          DUST University Ivy League
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  Again, very nicely done, out of curiosity what happens when a corp has 66+ members, do you slide to the next window, or did i miss something? I think it' would make a fine addition, would make for some nice employee of the month stuff.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.20 19:24:00 -
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          Wilhelm Klingspor wrote:Again, very nicely done, out of curiosity what happens when a corp has 66+ members, do you slide to the next window, or did i miss something? I think it' would make a fine addition, would make for some nice employee of the month stuff.   The zoom feature comes into play once you exceed +100 members, or it could be based on a ratio of the graph size, which I think I like better. So at 100 players the tool lights turn on and allow you to fully zoom into see 25 members by pushing X, and triangle would zoom out.
  I really like your employee of the month idea. Tools like this make that kind of recognition much more easier to manage.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 06:55:00 -
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          ^ ^ Here's the product of the feedback from above. It features the lovable Ancient Exiles. I'm not sure how well of an estimation this is of Djinn Marauder and Zaria Min Deir's data. Don't hold me to anything. 
  [Corporate Competition via Contribution Tab]
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 09:28:00 -
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          Should I take off the cross-hair on the selected comparison character? Is there a better icon or tool to place in that spot?
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 15:34:00 -
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          Jadek Menaheim wrote:^ ^ Here's the product of the feedback from above. It features the lovable Ancient Exiles. I'm not sure how well of an estimation this is of Djinn Marauder and Zaria Min Deir's data. Don't hold me to anything.  [Corporate Competition via Contribution Tab] 
  I take it you don't know about the employment history tool. 
  DJINN Marauder
  Ancient Exiles. 2013-11-12 03:52 - Now (0y 39d) Paladin Survey Force 2013-11-12 02:24 - 2013-11-12 03:52 (0y 0d) Ancient Exiles 2013-07-31 23:00 - 2013-11-12 02:24 (0y 104d) Shining Flame 2013-07-31 22:37 - 2013-07-31 23:00 (0y 0d) Hellstorm Inc 2013-06-27 07:10 - 2013-07-31 22:37 (0y 34d) Amarr Templars 2013-06-27 03:39 - 2013-06-27 07:10 (0y 0d) Hellstorm Inc 2013-06-19 13:14 - 2013-06-27 03:39 (0y 8d) Purgatorium of the Damned 2013-05-20 01:34 - 2013-06-19 13:14 (0y 30d) Hellstorm Inc 2013-05-19 23:54 - 2013-05-20 01:34 (0y 1d) Kameira Lodge 2013-05-19 22:55 - 2013-05-19 23:54 (0y 0d) Hellstorm Inc 2013-01-11 00:58 - 2013-05-19 22:55 (0y 128d) Royal Uhlans 2013-01-10 08:06 - 2013-01-11 00:58 (0y 1d)
  Zaria Min Deir
  Ancient Exiles. 2013-11-12 00:53 - Now (0y 39d) Villore Sec Ops 2013-11-12 00:52 - 2013-11-12 00:53 (0y 0d) Ancient Exiles 2013-08-01 17:29 - 2013-11-12 00:52 (0y 103d) Crux Special Tasks Group 013-07-24 12:44 - 2013-08-01 17:29 (0y 8d) Seraphim Initiative. 2013-04-02 16:46 - 2013-07-24 12:44 (0y 113d) SyNergy Gaming 2013-03-19 00:17 - 2013-04-02 16:46 (0y 14d) RestlessSpirits 2013-01-18 11:00 - 2013-03-19 00:17 (0y 60d) A.C.M.E Corp 2013-01-10 18:54 - 2013-01-18 11:00 (0y 8d) Algintal Core 2013-01-10 08:01 - 2013-01-10 18:54 (0y 0d)
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 15:38:00 -
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            It even tracks the number of days a player stayed with a corp. Wow. +1 It's quite understandable but interesting to see Djinn Marauder's specific work history with Hellstorm Inc.
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 17:46:00 -
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          Jadek Menaheim wrote:Should I take off the cross-hair on the selected comparison character? Is there a better icon or tool to place in that spot?    I think the icon is fine. The only other thing you really need to make this complete is a way to tell where you are in the larger graph after zooming in several magnifications. I see there is a nice bit of space at the bottom of your graph.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 17:48:00 -
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          NDA Approved wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Should I take off the cross-hair on the selected comparison character? Is there a better icon or tool to place in that spot?   I think the icon is fine. The only other thing you really need to make this complete is a way to tell where you are in the larger graph after zooming in several magnifications. I see there is a nice bit of space at the bottom of your graph.    Awesome suggestion! I'll work on adding that in.
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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          Just out of curiosity, OP, what is your intention for CCP using this mechanic? I feel you gave up a bulk of your IP rights posting this to their forums and using CCP photo assets. You've basically done a lot of free leg work for a massive mechanic that is useful in both games. Where you doing this for money? Recognition? Or just an altruistic act for the community?
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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          It would be the latter. I enjoy this game and what to see it succeed with mechanics that really cultivate player retention. Essentially, I am publicly saying that I irrevocably hand over rights to use of this Contribution Tab mechanic as is to CCP games. 
  I have many more ideas. Well see how those go.
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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          Jadek Menaheim wrote:I have many more ideas. Well see how those go.    Said every other inventor lost to musings of history. Jadek, either you're very young or live a very poor and humble life. More power to you. 
 
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 18:19:00 -
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          NDA Approved wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:I have many more ideas. Well see how those go.   Said every other inventor lost to musings of history. Jadek, either you're very young or live a very poor and humble life. More power to you.    Would you say the same thing of Iron Wolf Saber?
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 18:22:00 -
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          And what does he do again?
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Xer Cloud Consortium
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 18:25:00 -
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          NDA Approved wrote:And what does he do again?   
 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Of course, lately though CPM has little action that required game play, I would discuss but NDA and all. Right now the CPM had to do a quick round of security tightening after a couple attempts to get info.   IRL I run million dollar projects in the legal industry as a senior project manager with up to 40 staff. Meetings, NDAs, timelines, budgets, P and L ... I can do more then fire a charged shot from my templar scrambler rifle.  I used to maintain multiples of multi-million dollar objects in peak working condition under great duress with a staff of four because that was the number deemed necessary for our needs though at times I'd been wishing it been double. Quality maintained has to be top notch because the price of anything else is going to get someone killed. I already picked up one mess already because of such mistake made by another person.  Diplomacy is required between my department and other departments, customers, those in charge of my department, and logistics when it comes to arranging resource allocation. Participated in developing a process that will have estimated savings for the US government into the millions. Breach of my Top Secret Security Clearance would surmount to that of treason; punishable by death.  Knowing when to tell the customer to respectfully F off is a highly critical skill in correcting product usage behaviors. I can do more than do stupid things in a shooter. :P Aside from that if you want to go at it be my guest, if you want some thought exercises on the possible stuff you'd might deal with as a CPM feel free to ask I'll be happy to provide some scenarios.  
 
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          Spectre-M 
          The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 18:33:00 -
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          NDA Approved wrote:I wonder who leaked it?  
  Someone smart enough to create buzz, instead of being so secretive.
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          NDA Approved 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.21 18:56:00 -
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          Spectre-M wrote:NDA Approved wrote:I wonder who leaked it?  Someone smart enough to create buzz, instead of being so secretive.    Do you mean Jadek? This wasn't designed by a Dev at CCP. He's the clever one I guess, trying to drum up views and input on a suggested feature.
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