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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:44:00 -
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What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs...
http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darkness
Quote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4951
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:46:00 -
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The hell does it matter when you fire someone?
If they aren't doing their jobs or CCP cannot maintain them then such are justifiable reasons.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Sgt Buttscratch
1157
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:47:00 -
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This is business, that happens everyday, in every city on earth. 'Tis ****** that they chose to do it before xmas, but thats life.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services
ACME Holding Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:47:00 -
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To be honest, I always thought World of Darkness is like a redheaded stepchild, I mean Space, Space... vampires? 
EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today!
Let's gank Scotty.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:49:00 -
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Fire is the wrong way term to use. They were laid off. Something similar, yet completely different.
Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4145
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:51:00 -
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And do you have sources confirming that they will not be paid for this month as well? Or are you just jumping to conclusions? Not saying that I know either, just pointing it out.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
842
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:52:00 -
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They were probably promoting good ideas. That kind of thing has no place with CCP. |
DeadlyAztec11
2814
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:52:00 -
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All is fair in love and...
No but chances are that if they live in a very liberal country they will be given a lot of compensation until they find a job, probably they will probably paid at CCP's expense.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity, CCP Rarara
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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RED FARM
GOOD OL' B0YS
31
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:00:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs... http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darknessQuote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game.
Prince you are a douche.
Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS
Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2410
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:01:00 -
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So? It happens everyday in a bunch of different businesses. If you can't afford to keep employees you have to lay them off. |
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
166
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:03:00 -
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Being laid off is something that happens very often in the real world. Companies do it all the time for various reasons. The company I work for lays all of us "young guys" off every October-January. Luckily I make an excessive amount of money and am smart enough to save a large chunk of it for a rainy day.
Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time. |
One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:All is fair in love and...
No but chances are that if they live in a very liberal country they will be given a lot of compensation until they find a job, probably they will probably paid at CCP's expense.
I think the article said they were based out of Atlanta. It depends on who you ask whether the US is liberal or not.
Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
1
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:05:00 -
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Presents for good workers only. Bad one receive birch... |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2410
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:06:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Being laid off is something that happens very often in the real world. Companies do it all the time for various reasons. The company I work for lays all of us "young guys" off every October-January. Luckily I make an excessive amount of money and am smart enough to save a large chunk of it for a rainy day.
Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time.
I know quite a few companies that lay off younger employees from October - January. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8791
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:08:00 -
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If they were part of the Shanghai team, would you have the same reaction?
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
493
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:09:00 -
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They were laid off meaning they get to apply for unemployment and then they can play DUST 24/7 building their LP's up and get paid by the US government to do it.
Merica! Hell Yeah!
BattleDuty 514 Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter.
Working as intended.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
864
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:11:00 -
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Lol, good deal. My plan is working. Burnnnnn!
I'll bet after the DUST dev fiasco they aren't going to take sh*t from underproducing employees. Get rid of the fat before it brings another game down.
They already canned a bunch of Atlanta employees after the EVE fallout.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1078
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:15:00 -
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Sadly this happens all the time. End of the year comes, you have to start cutting liabilities wherever you can.
CCP is a decent company but not exactly able to float along comfortably.
They are a victim of "Western business philosophy"... which hurts customers and employyes alike. I hope those 15 people find a step up in their careers. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
844
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:20:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Fire is the wrong term to use. They were laid off. Something similar, yet completely different.
Its like being honorably discharged. You were fired on good terms.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5906
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:23:00 -
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The OP is another example of someone who doesn't understand how business works.
If someone has to get laid off because of financial constraints or because a project is not doing so well, then so be it. That's how market forces works. Besides, it's likely those employees were given some extra money before being laid off.
**** like this happens all the time around the world. Walmart, Walgreens, EA Games, CCP, Microsoft, Apple, Sony, Google, Nintendo, Bank of America, Morgan Chase, GE, Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, practically every business in the globe is guilty of this kind of practice.
BY THE WAY...
Since the employees were working at the Atlanta (US) office and they get laid off (different from being fired) then that means that according to US laws they are entitled to Unemployment Benefits.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1554
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:26:00 -
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Yet, Scotty is still cashing checks.
Solid decision making, again.
(Yes, I am aware that Scotty is fictitious. However, there is a man behind the curtain. That summabitch deserves the boot - fictitious or actual.)
Alyssa Milano.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
676
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:29:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Yet, Scotty is still cashing checks.
Solid decision making, again.
(Yes, I am aware that Scotty is fictitious. However, there is a man behind the curtain. That summabitch deserves the boot - fictitious or actual.)
That isn't even his fault.
My logi-code.
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Kasira Vorrikesh
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:33:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:To be honest, I always thought World of Darkness is like a redheaded stepchild, I mean Space, Space... vampires?
I'd love a WoD game some time before I'm too ******* senile to enjoy it (last WoD game was in 2004!!!), but I agree, CCP seemed like the worst possible choice to make it back when they first bought the rights, and they still seem like a poor choice to handle it now. WoD would be infinitely more difficult to develop than Dust, yet they seemingly have their hands full with the latter. Doesn't bode well at all. I wish they'd just unload the rights already and give another developer a chance with the setting. |
Dust Junky 4Life
Shitstorm Inc
197
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:39:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs... http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darknessQuote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game.
Heres the kicker:
Wait for it.................
World of Darkness was announced in 2006
A Shitstorm is coming...........
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
493
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:40:00 -
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Must be young and don't understand the world yet.  |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
318
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:41:00 -
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They're outsourcing it to China. Cheap labour.  |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5906
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:42:00 -
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Dust Junky 4Life wrote:ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs... http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darknessQuote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game. Heres the kicker: Wait for it................. World of Darkness was announced in 2006
Seven years of development since then and we haven't even seen a beta version yet. We should've seen this coming.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Kasira Vorrikesh
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:46:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Must be young and don't understand the world yet.
You mean that life's a steaming crock of sh*t filled with writhing maggots and clots of pus and blood?
I would think the ~20% unemployment rate for young people would have taught them that by now. Oh, and stagnated wages (relative to inflation/cost of living) for the last three decades. Yay, I'm part of the Lost Generation! |
Kasira Vorrikesh
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
Seven years of development since then and we haven't even seen a beta version yet. We should've seen this coming.
In CCP's defense they haven't been actively working on it for seven years. It was shelved for most of that time, or getting the bare minimum of pre-production.
Developmentally, I'd say it has maybe 2 years tops of solid (albeit inconsistent) work put into it so far. Though it still begs the questions: if they haven't been able to enter full-scale production in nearly a decade, when will they, and why did they bother trying in the first place? |
First Prophet
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
1337
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:55:00 -
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CCP Scumbags is my favorite dev.
Second place goes to CCP Sellout.
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