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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:57:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time.
You're lucky to have no control over your food and shelter?
Cave men were lucky too, then.
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rebecca watson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:58:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: [Incorrectly refers to CCP firing people when they got laid off] I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust [says Dust is 'bungled' and complains when CCP trims down staff from a unrelated project in order to free up more resources.
*slow clap* |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2410
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:00:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:m twiggz wrote:Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time. You're lucky to have no control over your food and shelter? Cave men were lucky too, then.
Just think more then 80% of the world has to live like that. (Over 80% of the people who are alive live in poverty) |
Aqua-Regia
578
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:03:00 -
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CCP you did a great move to save the other job. I'm not hating believe it was the best move.
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Kasira Vorrikesh
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:09:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:m twiggz wrote:Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time. You're lucky to have no control over your food and shelter? Cave men were lucky too, then.
Cave men were luckier, actually.
They didn't have to plan for retirement. Just up 'n died when they couldn't throw a spear anymore. Now days you retire in your late 60s and sit on your ass waiting for death for twenty years, draining your own bank account and society's simultaneously.
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services
ACME Holding Conglomerate
12
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Posted - 2013.12.17 08:19:00 -
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Kasira Vorrikesh wrote:Blake Kingston wrote:m twiggz wrote:Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time. You're lucky to have no control over your food and shelter? Cave men were lucky too, then. Cave men were luckier, actually. They didn't have to plan for retirement. Just up 'n died when they couldn't throw a spear anymore. Now days you retire in your late 60s and sit on your ass waiting for death for twenty years, draining your own bank account and society's simultaneously.
My gaming years are adding up, I'm a greybeard, and, I always wanted to play a tribe game MMO simulator set in prehistory. Always thought the concept would be insanely cool.
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
166
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Posted - 2013.12.17 12:51:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:m twiggz wrote:Simply it is what it is. They, I, anyone employed, is lucky to have a job, even if it's for a limited time. You're lucky to have no control over your food and shelter? Cave men were lucky too, then.
You blatantly disregarded the first few things I said. I save my money anticipating layoffs or loss of my job. I have an 8 month emergency fund which will cover rent, food and all of my bills if I was to lose my job indefinitely and needed to find another. Something many young people simply don't understand.
Yes I do feel lucky. At least I have a job 3/4 of the year, which is more than many people can say. |
Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
129
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs... http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darknessQuote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game. Heres the kicker: Wait for it................. World of Darkness was announced in 2006 Seven years of development since then and we haven't even seen a beta version yet. We should've seen this coming.
Must be hell of game coming out |
fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
253
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:18:00 -
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business is business........ you could have waited till jan or did it earlier though 
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
317
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:19:00 -
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CCP should of kept the developers and rolled them over to Dust, god knows they are having trouble cranking out content as it is.
Also working on a mmo pre-development since 2006, that game is never coming out.
But hey maybe it'll be like D3 or SC2, who am I kidding, Blizzard works for years and plays their own games and crank out success. CCP cranks out material on a constant skeleton crew and does not have time for play testing, iterative design is done by players, and leaves many with a dissatisfied experience.
I wonder which one is still cranking in millions per month and which one isn't.. |
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1964
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:31:00 -
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It sucks they're losing their jobs but the timing is not a real issue here because they'll all get paid notice period or severance pay in lieu, so they'll all be set for the holidays. If they'd been laid off in October as someone suggested would be nicer, their notice period would likely be ending just around Christmas, so that would have actually been worse.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
115
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:39:00 -
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You know, some lines of work get laid off right before holidays or summer. They collect for a few weeks while enjoying time with the fokes,, then move on to the next contract. It happens in business.. Unless your a liberal nut job who feels entitled to having the government control your life.. then yes they are assholes for not letting them sit at there desk in a pointless job collecting a pointless check so you can buy a pointless cell phone to talk to your pointless friends.
Sorry, I hate big government who thinks they need to do more then just protect our roads, streets, shores and freedom of living.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
115
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:40:00 -
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Did I make this off topic enough for this to be locked? Or should I ask for the Pen 15 Club guys to get in here to classie things up a bit more  
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
235
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:46:00 -
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I was laid off from a contract on Christmas eve once. It happens and it sucks but that's life.
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
312
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:50:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This is business, that happens everyday, in every city on earth. 'Tis ****** that they chose to do it before Christmas, but thats life.
Fixed
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Dalmont Legrand
134
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:23:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:What a bunch of douche bags firing guys right before the holidays. Really classy CCP... I have lost all faith in your company due to the way you continue to bungle Dust and the way you treat your workers. I mean really if you had to make layoffs do it in Jan or in Oct like a normal company ffs... http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/12/5201758/ccp-lays-off-15-staffers-working-on-world-of-darknessQuote:CCP, the developer behind Eve Online and vampiric MMO World of Darkness, laid off "approximately 15" members of its staff, senior PR specialist Ned Coker confirmed to Polygon today.
Those affected were part of the World of Darkness team in Atlanta. CCP issued the following statement:
"CCP today made strategic adjustments to the staffing on the team working on the World of Darkness project in Atlanta that resulted in the elimination of approximately 15 positions at the company. The change was due to our evaluation of the game's design and ongoing development needs. While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience."
World of Darkness was announced in 2006; few details have been released about the game so far. Most recently, it was shown during this year's Eve Fanfest. CCP previously said a team of at least 70 were working on the game.
Maybe now they will hire more for Dust team.
Of something nothing is everything.
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
122
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The hell does it matter when you fire someone?
If they aren't doing their jobs or CCP cannot maintain them then such are justifiable reasons.
I get the feeling that people are misunderstanding this.....I don't mean that I don't sympathise...since I cant empathise...its ****** luck.... but when you get fired it irrelevant.
listen to the man. that's life. get over it. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
958
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:31:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:CCP should of kept the developers and rolled them over to Dust, god knows they are having trouble cranking out content as it is.
Not every developer is the same kind of developer, and not every kind is useful in all phases of a game's lifecycle.
Those guys are better off working on some projects locally, and some have already gotten offers. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11303
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:45:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Fire is the wrong term to use. They were laid off. Something similar, yet completely different. Its like being honorably discharged. You were fired on good terms.
With some benefits at times too.
Fired is getting dishonorably removed and nothing.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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CrotchGrab 360
609
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:21:00 -
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I'm not going to have work in the new year, I won't even be working 2nd January but I'm not gonna *****
and cry about it, i've been unemployed for long periods of time before.
It's life. it's the age we live in, it's **** but it's either get through it or put a bullet in your head. I've contemplated
the latter but you have to say NO, **** YOU and press on.
And when someone won't give you a job, give yourself a job, if I get no luck, I'll just sell games, toys etc
then go over to France. You can park up and camp anywhere there, they don't care. That's an adventure
Sitting behind a desk your entire life is NOT an adventure. Who knows, maybe these ex-employees will find a new lease
of life! Maybe they weren't enjoying their job!
Oh and FYI "just before christmas" doesn't sit, christmas is the worst time for anything work related. |
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
245
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:55:00 -
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As I understand it, most US based companies work off a fiscal year calendar (for tax reporting purposes) that starts on or around October 1st of every year. However (and I could be wrong), CCP operates off a fiscal year that starts at the beginning of the year (January). Most companies lay coincide layoffs with the end of a quarter or the end of the fiscal year. So it's just that simple. End of fiscal year, time for any layoffs. It has nothing to do with Christmas, being evil corporate monsters, or any other stupid things like that.
Also, this is the Atlanta group of CCP which is focused on White Wolf licensing and the new World of Darkness MMO. They have only some contributions to EVE Online and even less to none for DUST 514.
So for the locationally challenged: CCP Reykjavik = CCP HQ and EVE Online; CCP Atlanta (actually Decatur) = White Wolf Publishing / Word of Darkness MMO; CCP San Francisco = ? servers/licensing ?; CCP Shanghai = DUST 514; CCP Newcastle = servers for EVE Online and more.
While that's like the "emphasis" for every one of those locations, but doesn't preclude the idea that there is a lot of cross-over with all of them for technical expertise etc.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
481
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:56:00 -
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please tell me these 15 assholes were Team Grit? Id fire them for real, like firing squad style. |
L0RD CALVERT
Ancient Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:18:00 -
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what? ppl getting fired from jobs? welcome to our world.
best thing about christmas is when the music ends
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
655
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:30:00 -
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ccp are far from cruel scumbags etc. you only have to see how they behave around each other to know its all one big playground for them. its likely these few knew it was coming way in advance and i doubt ccp have just thrown them to the wind.
the post only suggests one time they were removed from the company yet ccp's replies seem to suggest they were removed from the world of darkness team. who is to say they were not just transfered.. ccp has a lot of things in process at the moment so its unlikely they would get rid of good talent out of the company.
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