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KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3302	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:18:00 - [1] - Quote Why i can see A HEAVY running behind me but i cant spot on my radar an LAV or a TANK. ?????? Vehicle db should be ABOVE the ones of HEAVIES , putting them on the 70's AT LEAST, the only exception being maybe scout LAV's that might get a 45db, just to make them worth something. Ideas? anyone? I'd like to be able to detect vehicles specially since i have Precision scanning all the way to Lv5 and i dont know why my radar CANT spot a tank 5 mts away from me! its not like TANKS are made to be STEALTHY. *CCP please fix this crp.** AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 79	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:22:00 - [2] - Quote It might be their speed and how often you get an update to your suit. They are probably so quick they are on you before you know it. Kids look both ways before you cross the street. Tanks never see me when I'm behind them slapping on number stickREs Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3302	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: It might be their speed and how often you get an update to your suit. They are probably so quick they are on you before you know it. Kids look both ways before you cross the street. Tanks never see me when I'm behind them slapping on number stickREs NONO. Im pretty sure ITS NOT THEIR SPEED, bt the fact they have very VERY low db,maybe lower than a basic scout. And its wrong. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
DeadlyAztec11 2814	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:27:00 - [4] - Quote I totally understand what you are saying and I first noticed it back in 1.4. I never understood how I could see a heavy on a ledge behind a building but tanks, around corners would be totally invisible. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity, CCP Rarara And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3304	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:30:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I totally understand what you are saying and I first noticed it back in 1.4. I never understood how I could see a heavy on a ledge behind a building but tanks, around corners would be totally invisible. Exactly. Its not like im asking for anything outrageous here. Vehicles NEED to have more db than dropsuits for this game to make any sense. Of course this would also help vehicles like SCOUT LAV's to have a niche , plus of course, a later introduction of Vehicle profile dampeners. Vehicles having LESS db than a med frame or even a Heavy frame is not correct. Id doesn't even make any sense. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4145	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:30:00 - [6] - Quote It's because a lot of the times things get put on your radar for various reasons, none of which are your passive scanning. It's very confusing to try and tell why something showed up on your radar. But I guarantee you, most the time it is not your passive scanning. Default passive scanning is 10 meters, that is half of the smallest circle on your radar. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
rebecca watson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 86	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:46:00 - [7] - Quote You know, this has always been a gripe for me as well. I'm pretty sure it has to do with vehicle speed and how often your "radar" is updated or whatnot- but it's pretty wack. It really used to **** me off when everybody murder taxi'd. I agree vehicles should be more visable, and from further away, than infantry though.
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 148	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:52:00 - [8] - Quote I think it's a passive range issue? It's getting a little over the top when 3 tanks can sneak up on you. LAV's should be visible out to 50m on passive scan and HAV to 100 (full mini map). A tank not being visible on radar until it's within 10m means it's a better scout than my scout.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 273	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:54:00 - [9] - Quote message from Godin: Sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't. I think it's something to do with altitude. otherwise, your Db needs to be below 35 for it to work for some reason, yet AS above can regardless
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3304	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:56:00 - [10] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: It's because a lot of the times things get put on your radar for various reasons, none of which are your passive scanning. It's very confusing to try and tell why something showed up on your radar. But I guarantee you, most the time it is not your passive scanning. Default passive scanning is 10 meters, that is half of the smallest circle on your radar. You forget -+ of the time i run Scouts. I have Lv 5 passive scan range and scan precision. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446

True Adamance Scions of Athra 4958	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:16:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Why i can see A HEAVY running behind me but i cant spot on my radar an LAV or a TANK. ?????? Vehicle db should be ABOVE the ones of HEAVIES , putting them on the 70's AT LEAST, the only exception being maybe scout LAV's that might get a 45db, just to make them worth something. Ideas? anyone? I'd like to be able to detect vehicles specially since i have Precision scanning all the way to Lv5 and i dont know why my radar CANT spot a tank 5 mts away from me! its not like TANKS are made to be STEALTHY. *CCP please fix this crp.** MY DB IS ONE BILLION! TOOO OMNIPRESENT FOR YOUR PATHETIC SCANNERS! To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2387	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:38:00 - [12] - Quote Vehicle Profile is 150 db, both LAVs and HAVs. You just have LOLsuck passive range I Buy Officer Weapons, from 200K to 500K a pop, contact me for arrangements Gallente + Amarr: Do it
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1284	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:41:00 - [13] - Quote These tanks are like gods among men.... They are "Immortal". "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 275	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:45:00 - [14] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Vehicle Profile is 150 db, both LAVs and HAVs. You just have LOLsuck passive range Interesting, on my Minimatar Scout suit, I have it fited for passive scanning, and i can pick up suits fine, but not vehicles, like Godin said.
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 84	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:47:00 - [15] - Quote Yea, vehicle DB rating is the highest of anything in Dust, well except for MCCs maybe. I think the main issue is passive scan in general, I had two complex precision mods and range extender on my infantry alt and I still couldn't see anyone. Active scanners are so popular right now anyway that passive scan is almost useless. Plus, I am wondering what the DB of gunshots are, I have been right next to reds who were firing and they didn't show up on my radar until I actually put the crosshairs over them.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3305	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:48:00 - [16] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Vehicle Profile is 150 db, both LAVs and HAVs. You just have LOLsuck passive range i have Level 5 range, Scan precision, dampening and i Use a sout rather frequently,and HAV's have SNEAKED upon me. Once i was even shooting at someone and when i backed up there was an enmey tak behind me. I SAW it, took cover and still the HAV wouldnt show on my radar. So , if my Scan is : LOL SUCK PASSIVE RANGE,then i guess we need buff no? AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 79	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:22:00 - [17] - Quote It could be a data entry error and all vehicles have a dB of 15.0 Or the algorithm clocks at 150 and it treats it as zero. Swarms should be able to track based on dB and if you can passively scan it at say half you can target them including suits. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2182	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:17:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MY DB IS ONE BILLION! TOOO OMNIPRESENT FOR YOUR PATHETIC SCANNERS! Pulls out Focused Scanner "You were saying?" DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4971	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:25:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: MY DB IS ONE BILLION! TOOO OMNIPRESENT FOR YOUR PATHETIC SCANNERS! Pulls out Focused Scanner "You were saying?" ONE BILLION I AM ALWAYS PRESENT AND ALWAYS NOT PRESENT. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Shooty Dangerman One Bad Dude 1	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:03:00 - [20] - Quote There is definitely a problem with this. I backed up into an enemy tank today (thought it was friendly) and was pressed up against it for a couple seconds and it didn't pop on my radar. Also scan radius for all suits could use a buff.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1517	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:23:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Why i can see A HEAVY running behind me but i cant spot on my radar an LAV or a TANK. ?????? Vehicle db should be ABOVE the ones of HEAVIES , putting them on the 70's AT LEAST, the only exception being maybe scout LAV's that might get a 45db, just to make them worth something. Ideas? anyone? I'd like to be able to detect vehicles specially since i have Precision scanning all the way to Lv5 and i dont know why my radar CANT spot a tank 5 mts away from me! its not like TANKS are made to be STEALTHY. *CCP please fix this crp.** That's exactly who you should address it to, CCP. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 193	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:56:00 - [22] - Quote The reason for this is we are heavys. We are just more bad@$$ then tank This really does need to be fixed. CCP things the sound of tanks is good enough for us. Heavys only have 2 heavy guns. Please dont turn the NERF bat on them. Give heavys more suits or guns soonGäó
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 408	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:58:00 - [23] - Quote The DB of a suit or vehicle has very little to do with how passive scanning works. Line of sight trumps all form of passive scans. The problem you're having is that the vehicles aren't in your scan range or aren't in your line of sight. Not to mention that passive scanning as it is, is pretty borked. ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
Jakar Umbra Altyr Initiative 460	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:12:00 - [24] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Why i can see A HEAVY running behind me but i cant spot on my radar an LAV or a TANK. ?????? Vehicle db should be ABOVE the ones of HEAVIES , putting them on the 70's AT LEAST, the only exception being maybe scout LAV's that might get a 45db, just to make them worth something. Ideas? anyone? I'd like to be able to detect vehicles specially since i have Precision scanning all the way to Lv5 and i dont know why my radar CANT spot a tank 5 mts away from me! its not like TANKS are made to be STEALTHY. *CCP please fix this crp.** The Problem isn't the vehicle dB but the fact that the passive scans of the various dropsuits don't extend beyond roughly 10 metres without skills, Scouts are 16m which is the max. The tanks are rarely right next to you when they engage you so as a result they don't appear on your passive scan even though they have a profile signature of 200dB. It's not the signatures that's the problem it's the fact that passive scans are so short that it picks up dropsuits and vehicles at the same distances. Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
Lorhak Gannarsein 750	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:25:00 - [25] - Quote Where are people pulling these vehicle DB numbers from? >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6400	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:33:00 - [26] - Quote My passive scanners have missed a tank with almost maxed passive scanning skills on a Gallente scout with multiple range amps. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'


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