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stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 556	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:03:00 - [1] - Quote Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 731	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:06:00 - [2] - Quote Because AV grenades are meant to supplement existing AV, not replace it all together.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 106	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:08:00 - [3] - Quote Yup I'm with u on that. Pure bs The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:10:00 - [4] - Quote message from Godin: Not going to happen. AV nades are completely fine. They should never get a change, ever. Quiet nub.
XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 202	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:12:00 - [5] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Not going to happen. AV nades are completely fine. They should never get a change, ever. Quiet nub. Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jason Pearson 3473	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote No, because they're ******* AV Grenades. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 557	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:17:00 - [7] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. You'd be lucky to get the 3rd hit in with how fast these tanks are moving now.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 557	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Because AV grenades are meant to supplement existing AV, not replace it all together. Please post a link to where the DEVs stated that AV grenades are only meant to supplement other forms of AV.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 5	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:24:00 - [9] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. You'd be lucky to get the 3rd hit in with how fast these tanks are moving now. Honestly, you'd be lucky to get the 2nd hit in without the tanking getting out of range.
CrotchGrab 360 591	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:27:00 - [10] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. 4-5 doesn't sound that bad, throwing 3 AV nades at a tank would mean you destroy it in less than 10 seconds. I agree the game's AV vs V balance right now is horrible but what you're suggesting is you should be able to take out a tank with no effort whatsoever. Sorry that you have to take up a tactical position to resupply your nades, how about we allow you to use grenades as equipment slots so you can fit 9 and spam to your hearts content?

Zimander Tickle My Null-Sac 15	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:28:00 - [11] - Quote CCP should change the name from AV grenade to RD Grenade (RUBER DUCKY) cuz 1.7 is a ******* BS 8 tanks per match and full pro Swarm 5 and 5 and still I just tickle tank ass
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 559	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:29:00 - [12] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. 4-5 doesn't sound that bad, throwing 3 AV nades at a tank would mean you destroy it in less than 10 seconds. I agree the game's AV vs V balance right now is horrible but what you're suggesting is you should be able to take out a tank with no effort whatsoever. Sorry that you have to take up a tactical position to resupply your nades, how about we allow you to use grenades as equipment slots so you can fit 9 and spam to your hearts content? I sneak up behind stationary militia tanks drop a nanohive start chucking them hit'em with 2 and they just drive away and the 3rd just falls to ground.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 965	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:31:00 - [13] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. 4-5 doesn't sound that bad, throwing 3 AV nades at a tank would mean you destroy it in less than 10 seconds. I agree the game's AV vs V balance right now is horrible but what you're suggesting is you should be able to take out a tank with no effort whatsoever. Sorry that you have to take up a tactical position to resupply your nades, how about we allow you to use grenades as equipment slots so you can fit 9 and spam to your hearts content? +1 4 perfect sarcasm Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
DJINN Loki Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 21	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:34:00 - [14] - Quote meh, im ok with the damage AV nades do now, just need to slow down the tanks a bit. word
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2520	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:35:00 - [15] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Because AV grenades are meant to supplement existing AV, not replace it all together. Please post a link to where the DEVs stated that AV grenades are only meant to supplement other forms of AV. It shouldn't require a dev post to explain something that obvious. Anyone can carry an AV grenade and still slay. If that is all that is required, then forge guns, proximity mines, and swarms hold no value whatsoever. It therefore stands to reason that AV grenades should not replace the role of those more specialized weapons, but rather supplement them.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 506	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:38:00 - [16] - Quote 'nother question, why does it take 3 packed AV grenades to kill the BPO LAVs? AV is ****** all over, but i feel like that's a pretty great example right there. 3 packed for an LAV that most people don't even bother to fit?
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 559	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:41:00 - [17] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Because AV grenades are meant to supplement existing AV, not replace it all together. Please post a link to where the DEVs stated that AV grenades are only meant to supplement other forms of AV. It shouldn't require a dev post to explain something that obvious. Anyone can carry an AV grenade and still slay at maximum proficiency. If that is all that is required, then forge guns, proximity mines, and swarms hold no value whatsoever. It therefore stands to reason that AV grenades should not replace the role of those more specialized weapons, but rather supplement them. Thats your opinion, If they are meant to supplement why do they have 54CPU and 9PG to fit is a bit ridiculous for an AV weapon thats not even meant to take out vehicles.
Xyl5 Raging Pack of Homosapiens 16	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [18] - Quote You know what I want? A limit of 2 Tanks per team at a time. I'm hating the whole tank squad that is going on right now.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5063	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:49:00 - [19] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. So... Why can't I solo a tank while using my AR? Never forget How to fix the Logi
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 736	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:52:00 - [20] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Because AV grenades are meant to supplement existing AV, not replace it all together. Please post a link to where the DEVs stated that AV grenades are only meant to supplement other forms of AV. It shouldn't require a dev post to explain something that obvious. Anyone can carry an AV grenade and still slay at maximum proficiency. If that is all that is required, then forge guns, proximity mines, and swarms hold no value whatsoever. It therefore stands to reason that AV grenades should not replace the role of those more specialized weapons, but rather supplement them. Thats your opinion, If they are meant to supplement why do they have 54CPU and 9PG to fit is a bit ridiculous for an AV weapon thats not even meant to take out vehicles. OK then, I'll rephrase. AV grenades are meant to be capable of taking out / heavily damaging light vehicles - but with heavy vehicles (ie. tanks) they should only really be able supplement heavier AV weapons.

Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 918	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:52:00 - [21] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. The issue is that militia tanks are effective with 0 SP. What needs to be done is nerf militia vehicles and modules and make attributes much more dependent on skills, so that you are required to invest SP to get a good fit. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Jason Pearson 3477	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:17:00 - [22] - Quote Harpyja wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Why does it take 4-5 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades to take out a militia tank? 1mil+ SP into AV grenades vs 0 SP into tank and the militia tank can just drive away after the third. The issue is that militia tanks are effective with 0 SP. What needs to be done is nerf militia vehicles and modules and make attributes much more dependent on skills, so that you are required to invest SP to get a good fit. No thanks. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.


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