Thanks for being modest and ballsy enough to admit this!


I personally think the scanner should be removed, all it does is allow proto-squads to stomp harder and more easily.

There's nothing more depressing than knowing you can't flank the enemy team, it completely removes tactics when you know you're lit up like a Christmas tree and now there's a mad rush to see who can get to you and kill you first.

It puts new players at an even bigger disadvantage and is just a way for people to get cheap kills and shoot you in the back.

I'm not going to use dampeners as I don't see why I should completely change my setup and total HP just to counter
one guy spinning round in a circle whilst the rest of the squad are all stacked with health modules.

CCP, remove scanners, dampeners and everything related, refund ISK from skillbooks and SP and be done with it.
Start introducing some tactics to this game.

DUST isn't going to be any more than a casual game whilst stuff like this still exists.

That's how it should be.

Its a proto scanner. The best proto scanner. It better pick up everything. If someone paid the money for the best, nothing should get through.

The problem with scanners is getting a 360 field view regardless of what you use. Whether I run a standard or a proto scanner, I still get 360 intel. I think if puling the trigger stopped all movement until the scan was completed, that would make those scan degrees matter.

Everyone should be scanned by the best scanner, regardless of dampening. But the best scanner shouldn't be able to give you 360 degrees of scanning. Locking movement and looking around during a scan makes scanning much more tactical, and gives those dampened scout a fighting chance, since if they're not in the scan area, they are still unnoticed.

But but but... I only just started using the scanner. Today was the first time I really put it to use. My ADV MinLogi suit normally runs an injector, a nanohive, and a rep tool. Another fitting I use is dedicated entirely to uplinks. However, after acquiring the Combat Rifle today, I decided to dust off my quantum scanner and put it to use on a fitting that relies on profile dampeners.

The results are phenomenal and I am having fun. Considering I only play Dust on Sundays, can I at least use scanners for another month or so?

ORLY?

It's a proto scout. The best proto scout. With complex dampening modules. Proto level dampening modules. Four of them. If somebody paid the money for the best and did not choke on sacrificing all of their slots on it, they should not be scanned. See what I did there?

Not everyone should be scanned by the best scanner, irregardles of what protobear like you says. And none of the scanners should be able to give you 360 degrees of scanning. Best fix for this would be scanner doing a single flash scan of the range x span it declares, not emit a signal for few seconds. No movement locking, no nothing, you get a single impulse of 0.1 seconds and everything that's in range and span and with higher profile -- gets scanned.

And I am one of the ballerina scanners, so let's get that off the way.

Nope. Welcome to New Eden, where everything gets nerfed 10 seconds after it gets released. (Hyperbole, but still somewhat true.)

This makes me sad...

*patiently waits for next week to use scanner*

Thanks for being modest and ballsy enough to admit this!


I personally think the scanner should be removed, all it does is allow proto-squads to stomp harder and more easily.

There's nothing more depressing than knowing you can't flank the enemy team, it completely removes tactics when you know you're lit up like a Christmas tree and now there's a mad rush to see who can get to you and kill you first.

It puts new players at an even bigger disadvantage and is just a way for people to get cheap kills and shoot you in the back.

I'm not going to use dampeners as I don't see why I should completely change my setup and total HP just to counter
one guy spinning round in a circle whilst the rest of the squad are all stacked with health modules.

CCP, remove scanners, dampeners and everything related, refund ISK from skillbooks and SP and be done with it.
Start introducing some tactics to this game.

DUST isn't going to be any more than a casual game whilst stuff like this still exists.

I used to run the advanced scanner on nearly all my suits until one day I realized I was far too reliant on it. I decided to take it off of my templar suit and replace it with the templar uplink. First match in I was a paranoid mess. Something about not knowing where the enemy is at all times really bothered me and made me play far more timidly.

Before when I did use the scanner I would scan non-stop. Spin scan, run, wait for recharge, spin scan, run, etc. Once I removed the scanner and truly realized how heavily I relied on it, I came to realize just how much of a crutch the scanner really is.

I invite you to try my little experiment to see just how heavily you rely on the scanner - you may have a startling revelation.

HAHA why?

I already know the A.Scanners are Overpowered, i know i depend on them to win,i use them because they are the only true counter to themselves.....

Anybody that calls anything a "crutch" tells me they want this to be a competitive shooter. It's not. DUST is war. Any soldier that refuses to use any legal means to gain the advantage on their opponent is coming at this the wrong way. Those tools are also available to the enemy and you should expect them to use those same tools as well.

I do believe they need to be balanced, a level of uncertainty added, range falloff added and advantages given to scouts using them. That's all posted elsewhere.

So much this, I try not to use my scanner anymore but I can only take seeing YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED for so many minutes straight before I know I need to get mine before the Proto Army of Death comes to kill my single entity.

No despite what the voices and your evident self serving position says this is in fact a video game and it being competitive is kind of what makes them worth playing

Not everyone should be scanned by the best scanner, irregardles of what protobear like you says. And none of the scanners should be able to give you 360 degrees of scanning. Best fix for this would be scanner doing a single flash scan of the range x span it declares, not emit a signal for few seconds. No movement locking, no nothing, you get a single impulse of 0.1 seconds and everything that's in range and span and with higher profile -- gets scanned.

And I am one of the ballerina scanners, so let's get that off the way.

The problem with scanners is getting a 360 field view regardless of what you use. Whether I run a standard or a proto scanner, I still get 360 intel. I think if puling the trigger stopped all movement until the scan was completed, that would make those scan degrees matter.

I too am a crutch user.

I've started dropping it in favour of remote explosives though. They're great now! ... except in FW. Don't use them in FW. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!

That's how it should be.

Its a proto scanner. The best proto scanner. It better pick up everything. If someone paid the money for the best, nothing should get through.

The problem with scanners is getting a 360 field view regardless of what you use. Whether I run a standard or a proto scanner, I still get 360 intel. I think if puling the trigger stopped all movement until the scan was completed, that would make those scan degrees matter.

Everyone should be scanned by the best scanner, regardless of dampening. But the best scanner shouldn't be able to give you 360 degrees of scanning. Locking movement and looking around during a scan makes scanning much more tactical, and gives those dampened scout a fighting chance, since if they're not in the scan area, they are still unnoticed.

The irony is that CCP's intention was probably to encourage as much squad play as possible.

Instead nanohives were replaced by scanners as the No1 lone wolf equipment item.

( -.- )

THAY HAVNT BEEN NERFED. They fixed a glitch.
They are still as OP as always.
Main reason im so against them is A.Scanners have taken scouts out of the competitive side of Dust514.