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N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1623	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:16:00 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone. As well all know there is a speed glitch affecting the tanks. Thats why we see them literally flying around the map. Once this issue is fixed tanks should be a lot better in general. (balance wise) But i also have a few other ideas on how to slow tanks down to give AV a better chance to kill. When hardeners are active, slow the tank down by 20% Seems like something that could be helpful for taking out tanks, so they can't just hardener and gtfo, as quickly as normal. Tank speed in general needs a slight drop as well. I don't know the numbers, but seeing some of them go so fast, without a speed mod active. Shows that they need a drop in max speed. Tanks currently aren't unkillable. But that insane speed makes them have almost no time spent in a vulnerable position, eg hardeners are down. Please reply with ideas below. Minmatar Assault. Double SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1624	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:21:00 - [2] - Quote Huh, that's a really good idea actually. Making hardeners reduce a tank's top speed by 20% when active. A rational explanation could be that they draw an extreme amount of power to work and must borrow some to the propulsion Honestly I would just wait for CCP to implement WP for AV damaging tanks and see how it goes. Making AV an actual role GÿåTank DriverGÿå
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 384	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:21:00 - [3] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Hello everyone. As well all know there is a speed glitch affecting the tanks. Thats why we see them literally flying around the map. Once this issue is fixed tanks should be a lot better in general. (balance wise) But i also have a few other ideas on how to slow tanks down to give AV a better chance to kill. When hardeners are active, slow the tank down by 20% Seems like something that could be helpful for taking out tanks, so they can't just hardener and gtfo, as quickly as normal. Tank speed in general needs a slight drop as well. I don't know the numbers, but seeing some of them go so fast, without a speed mod active. Shows that they need a drop in max speed. Tanks currently aren't unkillable. But that insane speed makes them have almost no time spent in a vulnerable position, eg hardeners are down. Please reply with ideas below. They fixed the bug tanks are just naturally fast now TBA IS NOT A NAME! At least give the heavy laser a name so we know you MIGHT be working on it.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1624	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:22:00 - [4] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Hello everyone. As well all know there is a speed glitch affecting the tanks. Thats why we see them literally flying around the map. Once this issue is fixed tanks should be a lot better in general. (balance wise) But i also have a few other ideas on how to slow tanks down to give AV a better chance to kill. When hardeners are active, slow the tank down by 20% Seems like something that could be helpful for taking out tanks, so they can't just hardener and gtfo, as quickly as normal. Tank speed in general needs a slight drop as well. I don't know the numbers, but seeing some of them go so fast, without a speed mod active. Shows that they need a drop in max speed. Tanks currently aren't unkillable. But that insane speed makes them have almost no time spent in a vulnerable position, eg hardeners are down. Please reply with ideas below. They fixed the bug tanks are just naturally fast now that speed mod bug is fixed now? Thanks for informing me, they still need a hefty drop in speed though. Minmatar Assault. Double SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1624	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:23:00 - [5] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Huh, that's a really good idea actually. Making hardeners reduce a tank's top speed by 20% when active. A rational explanation could be that they draw an extreme amount of power to work and must borrow some to the propulsion Honestly I would just wait for CCP to implement WP for AV damaging tanks and see how it goes. i'd believe that. Minmatar Assault. Double SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2306	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:25:00 - [6] - Quote Part me thinks they balanced tank v infy with equipment that doesn't exist yet. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 240	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:34:00 - [7] - Quote message from Godin: 1: agreed with the MLT nitro glitch 2: Makes no sense to give the hardeners a speed nerf, lore wise, and balance wise. Not needed imo. Well, the shield hardeners need a longer cooldown, as those things can perma run on HAV's..... 3: Rem said that they are thinking about nerfing speed, as well as adding AV damage WP's, so that's already covered. Note: I would actually go for a slight acceleration nerf rather than a speed nerf. We already got a speed nerf in 1.7, just that the acceleration got a massive buff. Just roll that back a little.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 240	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:35:00 - [8] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Hello everyone. As well all know there is a speed glitch affecting the tanks. Thats why we see them literally flying around the map. Once this issue is fixed tanks should be a lot better in general. (balance wise) But i also have a few other ideas on how to slow tanks down to give AV a better chance to kill. When hardeners are active, slow the tank down by 20% Seems like something that could be helpful for taking out tanks, so they can't just hardener and gtfo, as quickly as normal. Tank speed in general needs a slight drop as well. I don't know the numbers, but seeing some of them go so fast, without a speed mod active. Shows that they need a drop in max speed. Tanks currently aren't unkillable. But that insane speed makes them have almost no time spent in a vulnerable position, eg hardeners are down. Please reply with ideas below. They fixed the bug tanks are just naturally fast now message from Godin: I saw that, tried it out, and it still does 100%.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2306	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:37:00 - [9] - Quote ^ Tanks definitely do not move like they did Day 1. They are fast but they are not blinking from one end of the map to the other now. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 240	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:38:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: ^ Tanks definitely do not move like they did Day 1. They are fast but they are not blinking from one end of the map to the other now. message from Godin: Trying it out now, still is doing 100%. EDIT: I feel dirty for using it now, I'm dropping out of match

Jason Pearson 3366	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:40:00 - [11] - Quote There's no bug Seriously do people not pay attention to everything I post?! King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1625	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:44:00 - [12] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: ^ Tanks definitely do not move like they did Day 1. They are fast but they are not blinking from one end of the map to the other now. message from Godin: Trying it out now, still is doing 100%. EDIT: I feel dirty for using it now, I'm dropping out of match so confirmed no fix yet? I didnt see a dev post that fix, so i assumed it wasn't yet. Minmatar Assault. Double SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 240	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:45:00 - [13] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: There's no bug Seriously do people not pay attention to everything I post?! message from Godin: Pearson, go on IRC
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 240	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:46:00 - [14] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: ^ Tanks definitely do not move like they did Day 1. They are fast but they are not blinking from one end of the map to the other now. message from Godin: Trying it out now, still is doing 100%. EDIT: I feel dirty for using it now, I'm dropping out of match so confirmed no fix yet? I didnt see a dev post that fix, so i assumed it wasn't yet. message from Godin: Fix went through, just didn't work.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1625	Posted - 2013.12.14 16:48:00 - [15] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: ^ Tanks definitely do not move like they did Day 1. They are fast but they are not blinking from one end of the map to the other now. message from Godin: Trying it out now, still is doing 100%. EDIT: I feel dirty for using it now, I'm dropping out of match so confirmed no fix yet? I didnt see a dev post that fix, so i assumed it wasn't yet. message from Godin: Fix went through, just didn't work. ok. thanks for the info. Minmatar Assault. Double SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 60	Posted - 2013.12.14 17:16:00 - [16] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Hello everyone. As well all know there is a speed glitch affecting the tanks. Thats why we see them literally flying around the map. Once this issue is fixed tanks should be a lot better in general. (balance wise) But i also have a few other ideas on how to slow tanks down to give AV a better chance to kill. When hardeners are active, slow the tank down by 20% Seems like something that could be helpful for taking out tanks, so they can't just hardener and gtfo, as quickly as normal. Tank speed in general needs a slight drop as well. I don't know the numbers, but seeing some of them go so fast, without a speed mod active. Shows that they need a drop in max speed. Tanks currently aren't unkillable. But that insane speed makes them have almost no time spent in a vulnerable position, eg hardeners are down. Please reply with ideas below. You can't slow a vehicle down when the hardener is active because you eliminate one of two options anyone has when they encounter a threat, fight or flight. Simply pulling our one militia swarm launcher would force vehicles to fight in situations they may not want to. While I agree HAV's in particular need there base speed reduced your idea as a whole out right sucks.
TheBLAZZED VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 134	Posted - 2013.12.14 17:22:00 - [17] - Quote people keep saying tanks are unkillable but I've lost plenty(50+) of them and I'm a fully speced tanker. maybe it's because when the other team has 6 and my team has 0 I still keep killing 2 to 3 per tank I lose.


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