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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.16 01:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Blame CPM Hans but also push for better pay on him too. Blame Hans? Really? I talked to Hans over Skype and in game about this. He claims that he told CCP prior to Uprising 1.7 launch that their was no parity between FW payouts and Pub payouts, even at level 10 standings, yet CCP ignored him. Also when I flat out asked him if he believes LP Payouts should increase, his answer was "Of course."
I'm not going to blame CPM Hans. I'm going to blame CCP FoxFour and CCP Nullabor.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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General BMF Johnson
Ka-Tet of 19
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Posted - 2013.12.16 17:48:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Whats up with THIS CCP? So hypothetically I play 200 wins for one faction to get level 10 standings, and im only going to make twice as much as someone who plays 3 matches? How does Risk vs Reward pan out in this one? I might as well get level 4 on all four factions and just leave it at that. This adds to the fact that no matter how good or bad you do in a match, your going to get the same reward as everyone else. The top guy in match is going to make the same LP as the bottom guy whos sniping off in the redline somewhere. This is a serious issue CCP. Faction Warfare is going to change from being a super competitive game mode, to pretty much the same thing as pub matches except you don't get Isk...... Whats the point of that??? Look, I realize you guys probably don't want to devalue LP buy having huge rewards at level 10 (in preparation for the incoming player market), but theres better ways to incentivize getting to level 10 that wouldn't effect the future market that much at all while still giving proper incentive to grind up the levels for any specific faction. For example, raising the base LP at level 10 to 1,500 would be, in my opinion, completely worth it. At level 10 you've proven your loyalty to the faction, and earning 1,500 instead of 659 would be a more then acceptable reward. OR you could do it so that at level 5 players start to get payed isk. lvl 5: 20% isk payout (in comparison to a normal pub match) lvl 6: 40% lvl 7: 60% lvl 8: 80% lvl 9: 100% lvl 10: 120% In addition this would be my personal LP payout/increase per level: 1.) 500 :3 wins 2.) 550 :6 wins 3.) 600 :9 wins 4.) 675 :15 wins 5.) 750 :28 wins 6.) 825 :45 wins 7.) 925 :70 wins 8.) 1025 :100 wins 9.) 1250 :145 wins 10.) 1500 : 200 wins This would give incentive aside from the very limited amount of specialty items in the store to play FW. Right now the amount of isk you lose in the attempt to gain LP just isn't worth it. So either something changes on the reward end of FW, or CCP is going to start seeing a lot of people forget about FW. Right now, the amount of wins it takes to go up a level goes up exponentially, but the payouts go up at a near constant slope. That's just dumb....... Ill play for one faction 50 times as much then someone else, but ill only get 2 times the reward they would normally get....... Do you see how that ratio is off? OR OPTION C: Just add PVE to the game and everyone will stop complaining....... Your move CCP
I think that this is an excellent idea. Especially adding ISK payout at the levels described.
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Karl Koekwaus
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:14:00 -
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seeing how any isk/LP conversion rate is speculation at this point, I think it's worth it to wait with the rebalancing of LP payouts till a functioning player market is introduced and LP have an isk value.
Micheal Jackson died for my sins
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3597
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:17:00 -
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659 Lo is not worth hundreds of matches put into a faction. That's like....IDK there's not a real world equivalent that I can think of that is ****** up as much as the FW gain is.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1777
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:24:00 -
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I thought the lp store was just there if you wanted or for newbs to save to get to use better gear, I didn't realise it'd be the deciding factor for whether fw is worth playing or not...............
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
159
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:26:00 -
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This could work if reaching lvl 10 in every faction wasn't a matter of grinding it out.
Since its a grind lvl 10 is not in anyway exclusive since everyone will get there eventually. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:49:00 -
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Nazz'Dragg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Blame CPM Hans but also push for better pay on him too. Didn't CPM Hans argue against bring in faction warfare matches to begin with?
Incomplete features was the specific complaint.
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Nazz'Dragg
planetary retaliation organisation
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nazz'Dragg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Blame CPM Hans but also push for better pay on him too. Didn't CPM Hans argue against bring in faction warfare matches to begin with? Incomplete features was the specific complaint. So how is it CPM Hans fault?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lum_B9Scwo8#t=0m17s
I would never of thought about that myself, Thanks.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1377
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:02:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:seeing how any isk/LP conversion rate is speculation at this point, I think it's worth it to wait with the rebalancing of LP payouts till a functioning player market is introduced and LP have an isk value.
That's a fair point. However I do want to point out that in this moment.... right now..... based off the math that has been done in this thread an others, LP is worth about half as much as isk is in comparison to "time spent earning" to "what you can buy using that time spent" (currency earned)
Marston VC, STB Director
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