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Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Luna Angelo wrote:

Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not.

One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's.

The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them.

The four specific militia BPOs that are being removed from inventory were NEVER made available in any merc pack. They were only available via the in-game Dust market and purchasable only with AUR, not cash.

Now, if CCP were to remove something the 'Toxin' SMG, then that will be a different story.

That was his point.

Removing the BPOs we got with Aurum is fair game, because we didn't pay CCP for the BPOs, we paid them for the Aurum.

That being said, I'm pretty sure I'm missing BPOs for items that still exist in the market. Most notably, the Heavy Shield Extender (I never did figure out why they only have Heavy and not Light as BPOs).

Also, BPOs were always the main use I had for AUR, and nothing else really appeals to me except for purposes of trying out new weapons that don't have MLT versions when I don't want to invest SP until I know I want it. If there are no BPOs on the market, that significantly reduces my incentive to buy Aurum in future.

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Psycho Sangers New Vision 0	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:43:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT. Ok I said it but that is not Cricket.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1478	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:43:00 - [2] - Quote they didn't remove all vehicle bpos. they removed a few vehicle bpos that no longer exist. exhibit A, I still have my bpo lav
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1871	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:45:00 - [3] - Quote i'm pretty sure i still have my guristas saga bpo.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4977	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:45:00 - [4] - Quote I just have this image of a 4 year old crying in a toy store because mommy won't buy him his pokeyman cards. Except he's 30-something. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 405	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:46:00 - [5] - Quote Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not. One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's. The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them. Names of playstyles
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 208	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:50:00 - [6] - Quote BPOs are mostly fine, just a couple types were removed. Seriously though, if the passive hardeners ever come back, I want my passive hardener BPO back. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2191	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:15:00 - [7] - Quote Out of all the good BPOs that remain in the game he complains about four modules that were removed from the game so the blueprints were too. We just went though all this weeks ago. Where were you back then or is this a second round of whining? // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Jack Vanus Brimstone Tactical Covert Intervention 28	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:15:00 - [8] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Out of all the good BPOs that remain in the game he complains about four modules that were removed from the game so the blueprints were too. We just went though all this weeks ago. Where were you back then or is this a second round of whining? Not all of us have nothing better to do than to read the forums all day long. I have invested real money here and expect to get my BPOs either returned (and functioning) or I expect to be able to pick other BPO modules of my choice which are of comparative or better value. This sounds dangerously like a game creep effect where CCP will round robin the changes to modules to eliminate BPOs from those of us who took a risk and invested into this game as early adopters.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2175	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:17:00 - [9] - Quote Marty, for the last time...I told you, don't get on the highway with the DeLorean. Things...happen Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 671	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:24:00 - [10] - Quote ^ So awesome. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5857	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:28:00 - [11] - Quote Psycho Sangers wrote: CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT. Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. This is obviously a troll post. This can be scientifically proven. 1. Not all vehicle BPOs are being removed. Only four of them. 2. You paid AUR for those four militia BPO, not cash. You paid cash for AUR according to Sony's transaction records. You got AUR refunded to you by CCP. No problem here. 3. What evidence do you have besides assumptions that CCP will remove more BPOs from your inventory? OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5857	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:30:00 - [12] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not. One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's. The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them. The four specific militia BPOs that are being removed from inventory were NEVER made available in any merc pack. They were only available via the in-game Dust market and purchasable only with AUR, not cash. Now, if CCP were to remove something the 'Toxin' SMG, then that will be a different story. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5857	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:35:00 - [13] - Quote Jack Vanus wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Out of all the good BPOs that remain in the game he complains about four modules that were removed from the game so the blueprints were too. We just went though all this weeks ago. Where were you back then or is this a second round of whining? Not all of us have nothing better to do than to read the forums all day long. I have invested real money here and expect to get my BPOs either returned (and functioning) or I expect to be able to pick other BPO modules of my choice which are of comparative or better value. This sounds dangerously like a game creep effect where CCP will round robin the changes to modules to eliminate BPOs from those of us who took a risk and invested into this game as early adopters. You need to use the SEARCH function of the forums. You had an entire month to at least spend 1 measly hour of your life to read a few threads that already covered this. But I'll be nice though. I'll show you a link to one such thread that explains it nicely. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unread OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5857	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:38:00 - [14] - Quote Despite what you think or feel, you got back the AUR. Again, you can't get any refund from Sony because Sony doesn't do refunds. Only store credit. And on top of that, Sony doesn't care what you intended to do with the AUR. To Sony, you spent money for AUR, not the four specific BPOs we are talking about here. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3022	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:38:00 - [15] - Quote Psycho Sangers wrote: CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT. Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. WHAT BPO's were removed? last time i checked i still had mine.... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5857	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:41:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Psycho Sangers wrote: CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT. Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. WHAT BPO's were removed? last time i checked i still had mine.... Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274&find=unread Quote: CCP Frame wrote: In regards to BPOs: we are removing and refunding a few specific AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore. We have no plans for the immediate future to touch other blueprints. [...] 4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier 4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4133	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:00:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not. One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's. The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them. The four specific militia BPOs that are being removed from inventory were NEVER made available in any merc pack. They were only available via the in-game Dust market and purchasable only with AUR, not cash. Now, if CCP were to remove something the 'Toxin' SMG, then that will be a different story. That was his point. Removing the BPOs we got with Aurum is fair game, because we didn't pay CCP for the BPOs, we paid them for the Aurum. That being said, I'm pretty sure I'm missing BPOs for items that still exist in the market. Most notably, the Heavy Shield Extender (I never did figure out why they only have Heavy and not Light as BPOs). Also, BPOs were always the main use I had for AUR, and nothing else really appeals to me except for purposes of trying out new weapons that don't have MLT versions when I don't want to invest SP until I know I want it. If there are no BPOs on the market, that significantly reduces my incentive to buy Aurum in future.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5865	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:03:00 - [18] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not. One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's. The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them. The four specific militia BPOs that are being removed from inventory were NEVER made available in any merc pack. They were only available via the in-game Dust market and purchasable only with AUR, not cash. Now, if CCP were to remove something the 'Toxin' SMG, then that will be a different story. That was his point. Removing the BPOs we got with Aurum is fair game, because we didn't pay CCP for the BPOs, we paid them for the Aurum. That being said, I'm pretty sure I'm missing BPOs for items that still exist in the market. Most notably, the Heavy Shield Extender (I never did figure out why they only have Heavy and not Light as BPOs). Also, BPOs were always the main use I had for AUR, and nothing else really appeals to me except for purposes of trying out new weapons that don't have MLT versions when I don't want to invest SP until I know I want it. If there are no BPOs on the market, that significantly reduces my incentive to buy Aurum in future. This is why I proposed earlier for CCP to introduce vanity items for AUR. That way, if you don't like boosters or the regular AUR consumables like the 'Neo' suits, then you would still have the option to pimp out your merc quarters. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5865	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:06:00 - [19] - Quote Just to be clear, the four specific BPOs being removed were only available via the in-game market for AUR only, not cash. They were never available at all in the merc packs. However, certain OTHER BPOs such as the 'Toxin' Assault Rifle BPO (just an example) were made available via merc packs only. If CCP were to remove those from your inventory, THEN you have a case against them because cash was directly used to purchase that BPO. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 103	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:07:00 - [20] - Quote The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation. This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5869	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:13:00 - [21] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation. This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers. Those contact grenades were clearly game breaking. Even players who bought them were claiming that they should be nerfed because it practically just threatened to ruin the game experience for everyone else. CCP had to nerf them. Besides, everyone accepted the EULA that states CCP is allowed to adjust anything in the game for exactly this reason. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Psycho Sangers New Vision 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:02:00 - [22] - Quote My point was that they are slowly removing BPO's these were purchased with AURUM but we spend real money for AURUM. In EVE AURUM is just for cosmetic items. With the removal of BPO's from the W.A.R. packs it is just about the money now. I actually subscribe to EVE as well. Removing the BPO's and making people pay for AURUM items is just going to put people off from playing the game. I understand they need to make a profit or there will be no game but now I think they will loose players because the cost to play is creeping up yet content is getting less. It was just a toy moment but CCP have a habit of not listening to there players, fixing things that are not broken and making a mess of things. We need a test server. However I do like the combat rifles, and the LP store is great, would be nice to get ISK with factional warfare too.
Herman Hardon The Rainbow Effect 26	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:16:00 - [23] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation. This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers. Ya man i got scammed good on that one. Bought a ton to sell later and they reduced the quantity which inturn reduced the value of what I thought I bought. All ccp and the ppl on forms did was spout out the eula terms and conditions BS. They are covered from top to bottom and can change whatever they wish! Cause even tho u bought it u dont own it. Shisters.
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 584	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:10:00 - [24] - Quote Sorry, but this is just dumb. Not only did they refund the Aurum, but at market prices right now. Technically CCP gave me $20 worth of AUR for literally pennies on the dollar. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2600	Posted - 2013.12.12 20:17:00 - [25] - Quote I see people still haven't grasped the concept that CCP's legal right to do something in the game does not prohibit us from objecting to it. They sold aurum on the selling point of access to exclusive content. Now not only have they stopped selling that content, they've forcibly removed it from many players' inventories, refunding it with a currency now worthless to the people who wanted those BPOs. If any of you wants to argue that this is an acceptable way of doing business, then you're broadcasting your permission for CCP to pull this kind of stunt in the future. Respect for the purchases we make is key to the value of Aurum, and thereby key to the game's ability to stay profitable. No.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5870	Posted - 2013.12.12 20:20:00 - [26] - Quote Technically the AUR is not worthless. You can still buy boosters and consumables with it to save up on ISK. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1897	Posted - 2013.12.12 20:36:00 - [27] - Quote Herman Hardon wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation. This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers. Ya man i got scammed good on that one. Bought a ton to sell later and they reduced the quantity which inturn reduced the value of what I thought I bought. All ccp and the ppl on forms did was spout out the eula terms and conditions BS. They are covered from top to bottom and can change whatever they wish! Cause even tho u bought it u dont own it. Shisters. Stocking up on anything with a view to selling it on in the future is entirely a risk on your part and it didn't pay off. If I buy stocking in gold and a year later the price of gold plummets, I lose money and there's nothing I can complain about because I chose to invest. Anyone could have seen how OP contact nades were and easily predicted that they would be nerfed somehow, so investing in something at it's obvious peak was a terrible idea bound to never pay off. As for being scammed by being encouraged to buy BPOs before they got removed - I bet you bought more than just those 4 BPOs and I bet you've used at least some of them and maybe even used those 4 BPOs before they disappeared too. So you didn't only buy aurum for the 4 BPOs that were removed and that aurum was never useless then or now. Also consider that though there may be nothing you want to spend aurum on currently, there will most certainly be more aurum only content in the future that you will want, whether it's skillback boosters, paint buckets or merc quarter decor. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2602	Posted - 2013.12.12 21:40:00 - [28] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Technically the AUR is not worthless. You can still buy boosters and consumables with it to save up on ISK. It's worth a hell of a lot less when there are fewer things it can purchase, many of those things are no longer exclusive, and there is no guarantee on any purchase made with it. These are the kind of problems that would ruin any currency. No.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 107	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:22:00 - [29] - Quote They can state the EULA until they are blue in the face. Bad business practice turns away players and paying customers. I'd rather see contacts not be able to be replenished from supply depots and nano hives then making them the worthless things they are now. Instead, They did a really big marketing push for you to buy contacts then turned around and made them worthless. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 588	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:28:00 - [30] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: They can state the EULA until they are blue in the face. Bad business practice turns away players and paying customers. I'd rather see contacts not be able to be replenished from supply depots and nano hives then making them the worthless things they are now. Instead, They did a really big marketing push for you to buy contacts then turned around and made them worthless. Really what they have done is made a big push for this game, the only difference is that it's been worthless this whole time. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic



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