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Zimander
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
14
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:36:00 -
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Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket.
TAKE A CHILL PILS MAN
CCP just took 3 BPO from vehicles nothing more |
Herman Hardon
The Rainbow Effect
26
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:17:00 -
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If you buy somthing labeled as one thing with quantitys of x amount , then the company decided it was defective in one why or another . The proper step is to leave the items u bought as is, offer a refund or recall the item. Putting blame on a custmer supposting ur busness is ****** ethics. So If you buy In BULK from ccp BE WARE . Eula or not its just WRONG u advertised it as u will receive "this" but we can change it at anytime.
So u buy a pack of gum thats labled it has 9 sticks and you open it and only get 3 , mean while you have already bout a case of this gum ........ see where I am going with this !!!!!! This is not exceptable business practice . |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1448
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:41:00 -
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I approve this thread.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Herman Hardon
The Rainbow Effect
26
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:21:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Herman Hardon wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation.
This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers.
Ya man i got scammed good on that one. Bought a ton to sell later and they reduced the quantity which inturn reduced the value of what I thought I bought. All ccp and the ppl on forms did was spout out the eula terms and conditions BS. They are covered from top to bottom and can change whatever they wish! Cause even tho u bought it u dont own it. Shisters. Stocking up on anything with a view to selling it on in the future is entirely a risk on your part and it didn't pay off. If I buy stocks in gold and a year later the price of gold plummets, I lose money and there's nothing I can complain about because I chose to invest. Anyone could have seen how OP contact nades were and easily predicted that they would be nerfed somehow, so investing in something at it's obvious peak was a terrible idea bound to never pay off. As for being scammed by being encouraged to buy BPOs before they got removed - I bet you bought more than just those 4 BPOs and I bet you've used at least some of them and maybe even used those 4 BPOs before they disappeared too. So you didn't only buy aurum for the 4 BPOs that were removed and that aurum was never useless then or now. Also consider that though there may be nothing you want to spend aurum on currently, there will most certainly be more aurum only content in the future that you will want, whether it's skillback boosters, paint buckets or merc quarter decor.
So if they put KRINs on the market and it said u have a 60 round clip and u bought a bunch cause ya liked that weapon and didnt know how long they would be on the market for so ya stock up. A week later cause all the qq ing they turn ur clip into 20 rounds , thats OKAY with you? I highly doubt it . |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5880
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:31:00 -
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Herman Hardon wrote:Django Quik wrote:Herman Hardon wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation.
This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers.
Ya man i got scammed good on that one. Bought a ton to sell later and they reduced the quantity which inturn reduced the value of what I thought I bought. All ccp and the ppl on forms did was spout out the eula terms and conditions BS. They are covered from top to bottom and can change whatever they wish! Cause even tho u bought it u dont own it. Shisters. Stocking up on anything with a view to selling it on in the future is entirely a risk on your part and it didn't pay off. If I buy stocks in gold and a year later the price of gold plummets, I lose money and there's nothing I can complain about because I chose to invest. Anyone could have seen how OP contact nades were and easily predicted that they would be nerfed somehow, so investing in something at it's obvious peak was a terrible idea bound to never pay off. As for being scammed by being encouraged to buy BPOs before they got removed - I bet you bought more than just those 4 BPOs and I bet you've used at least some of them and maybe even used those 4 BPOs before they disappeared too. So you didn't only buy aurum for the 4 BPOs that were removed and that aurum was never useless then or now. Also consider that though there may be nothing you want to spend aurum on currently, there will most certainly be more aurum only content in the future that you will want, whether it's skillback boosters, paint buckets or merc quarter decor. So if they put KRINs on the market and it said u have a 60 round clip and u bought a bunch cause ya liked that weapon and didnt know how long they would be on the market for so ya stock up. A week later cause all the qq ing they turn ur clip into 20 rounds , thats OKAY with you? I highly doubt it .
Believe it or not, many in the New Eden community would see that as ok because of what you said: the item is game breaking and could hurt the overall enjoyment of the game. The contact grenades were prime examples. The goal of CCP was to avoid pay-to-win scenarios anyways.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5880
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:33:00 -
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Zimander wrote:Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. TAKE A CHILL PILS MAN CCP just took 3 BPO from vehicles nothing more
Four specific militia vehicle module BPOs to be exact. But still..
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2075
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:33:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Anything you bought with AURUM is fair game. Anything out of the PSN packs is not.
One, you used real money to get AURUM to get those BPO's.
The other, you paid real money for the pack, and the BPO's came with them.
Yay dragonfly scout forever! |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2075
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Herman Hardon wrote:Django Quik wrote:Herman Hardon wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:The problem though is CCP markets that we need to get BPOs before they are taken off the market. That advertising makes us purchase AUR.. Then the items are removed we do not have like items we can purchase again. So any customer would be pissed in this situation.
This isn't the first time the marketing department had done something like this.. They market the contacts grenades the week before having them reduced from 3 to 1 grenade. Then they refuse the refund any of the AUR you just spent. Troll post or no, This is a horrible way to treat your customers.
Ya man i got scammed good on that one. Bought a ton to sell later and they reduced the quantity which inturn reduced the value of what I thought I bought. All ccp and the ppl on forms did was spout out the eula terms and conditions BS. They are covered from top to bottom and can change whatever they wish! Cause even tho u bought it u dont own it. Shisters. Stocking up on anything with a view to selling it on in the future is entirely a risk on your part and it didn't pay off. If I buy stocks in gold and a year later the price of gold plummets, I lose money and there's nothing I can complain about because I chose to invest. Anyone could have seen how OP contact nades were and easily predicted that they would be nerfed somehow, so investing in something at it's obvious peak was a terrible idea bound to never pay off. As for being scammed by being encouraged to buy BPOs before they got removed - I bet you bought more than just those 4 BPOs and I bet you've used at least some of them and maybe even used those 4 BPOs before they disappeared too. So you didn't only buy aurum for the 4 BPOs that were removed and that aurum was never useless then or now. Also consider that though there may be nothing you want to spend aurum on currently, there will most certainly be more aurum only content in the future that you will want, whether it's skillback boosters, paint buckets or merc quarter decor. So if they put KRINs on the market and it said u have a 60 round clip and u bought a bunch cause ya liked that weapon and didnt know how long they would be on the market for so ya stock up. A week later cause all the qq ing they turn ur clip into 20 rounds , thats OKAY with you? I highly doubt it . Believe it or not, many in the New Eden community would see that as ok because of what you said: the item is game breaking and could hurt the overall enjoyment of the game. The contact grenades were prime examples. The goal of CCP was to avoid pay-to-win scenarios anyways.
I love how Factional Warfare makes dust no longer pay to win |
NomaDz 2K
DUTY FR33
90
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Posted - 2013.12.13 12:10:00 -
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Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket.
Yep they FORCED THEIR "Refund", the "Refund" on CCP's behalf was not based upon a mutual agreement between the client (you) and them (CCP).
Allow me to put it this way in a very simple term: You purchase a Shirt from a store, for personal reasons you wish a Refund. Now you usually have 3 Options: 1. Full Cash Refund - AUR was purchase with Real Money. 2. An Exchange, Give the item back for ANOTHER Item of similar value, 4x vehicle BPOs = 4800 AUR x 4 = 19200 AUR, BPOs on the Market place in Uprising were going for around 12000 - 19800 AURUM. Why not allow us to have another BPO like a Dropsuit or Weapons as a FAIR exchange based upon a Mutual Agreement CCP 3. A Voucher for use in store, therefore AUR in the case of CCP even this in any store would have to be based upon a Mutual agreement.
I even opened a Ticket to CCP since the 20th of November and they still haven't resolved this problem. If it isn't resolved I will no longer FUND/SUPPORT them and their ways of doing business. They appear to have a lack in Customer Services as in Customer Care. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5883
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:08:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. Yep they FORCED THEIR "Refund", the "Refund" on CCP's behalf was not based upon a mutual agreement between the client (you) and them (CCP). Allow me to put it this way in a very simple term: You purchase a Shirt from a store, for personal reasons you wish a Refund. Now you usually have 3 Options: 1. Full Cash Refund - AUR was purchase with Real Money. 2. An Exchange, Give the item back for ANOTHER Item of similar value, 4x vehicle BPOs = 4800 AUR x 4 = 19200 AUR, BPOs on the Market place in Uprising were going for around 12000 - 19800 AURUM. Why not allow us to have another BPO like a Dropsuit or Weapons as a FAIR exchange based upon a Mutual Agreement CCP 3. A Voucher for use in store, therefore AUR in the case of CCP even this in any store would have to be based upon a Mutual agreement.I even opened a Ticket to CCP since the 20th of November and they still haven't resolved this problem. If it isn't resolved I will no longer FUND/SUPPORT them and their ways of doing business. They appear to have a lack in Customer Services as in Customer Care.
Can you please put that into better context? I don't understand what you're saying.
As far as I understand it after carefully analyzing the game, Sony, PSN, and the AUR items, I came to this conclusion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unread
Now keep in mind that according to Sony's transaction records, you purchased AUR with real money. Sony doesn't, and never will, care about what you intend to do with that AUR. You then used that AUR to purchase the shirt. The store takes away your shirt but refunds you the AUR you paid it with so you can use it for something else. Since AUR was never taken from you, Sony won't give you a cash refund. In fact, Sony doesn't do cash refunds but rather PSN Store Credit.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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NomaDz 2K
DUTY FR33
90
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:NomaDz 2K wrote:Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. Yep they FORCED THEIR "Refund", the "Refund" on CCP's behalf was not based upon a mutual agreement between the client (you) and them (CCP). Allow me to put it this way in a very simple term: You purchase a Shirt from a store, for personal reasons you wish a Refund. Now you usually have 3 Options: 1. Full Cash Refund - AUR was purchase with Real Money. 2. An Exchange, Give the item back for ANOTHER Item of similar value, 4x vehicle BPOs = 4800 AUR x 4 = 19200 AUR, BPOs on the Market place in Uprising were going for around 12000 - 19800 AURUM. Why not allow us to have another BPO like a Dropsuit or Weapons as a FAIR exchange based upon a Mutual Agreement CCP 3. A Voucher for use in store, therefore AUR in the case of CCP even this in any store would have to be based upon a Mutual agreement.I even opened a Ticket to CCP since the 20th of November and they still haven't resolved this problem. If it isn't resolved I will no longer FUND/SUPPORT them and their ways of doing business. They appear to have a lack in Customer Services as in Customer Care. Can you please put that into better context? I don't understand what you're saying. As far as I understand it after carefully analyzing the game, Sony, PSN, and the AUR items, I came to this conclusion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unreadNow keep in mind that according to Sony's transaction records, you purchased AUR with real money. Sony doesn't, and never will, care about what you intend to do with that AUR. You then used that AUR to purchase the shirt. The store takes away your shirt but refunds you the AUR you paid it with so you can use it for something else. Since AUR was never taken from you, Sony won't give you a cash refund. In fact, Sony doesn't do cash refunds but rather PSN Store Credit.
Your point fails due to the fact that they could consult with the Player/Supporter/PAYER to reach a MUTUAL Agreement, I realise this might be a bit far fetched for you or even a shock but in the "REAL WORLD" things work this way when you make a purchase. So basically explain to us all why CCP doesn't wish to EXCHANGE the BPOs removed for another BPO which still exists in GAME? Especially when the AUR was purchased just to get the said BPO which in turn were removed.
CCP can and could do this but why don't they? I smell scam take the money and run But in the real world try take someones cash like this and run, sooner or later you'll be pushing yourself in a wheel chair for the rest of your life when the right person which can ran faster than you catches your A$$.
Basically their "REFUND" (CCP) is FORCED Upon the Client at hand, it's NOT A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, they could have had more consideration , it's what you call in the "REAL WORLD" Customer Care. Yet they revoked/removed our rights of satisfaction on the product. There was no Agreement not even the "EULA - Dust 514" covers this aspect of poorly handling their consumers, it's a blatant lack of Customer Services and a slap in the face form Customer Care to the clients. It's not about the cash spent on the game, it's about the way CCP turn their backs on the very people which supported them by investing into their project. Therefore if my Support is no longer required , I personally have no problem whatsoever in investing elsewhere my hard earned cash and time.
Peac3
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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NomaDz 2K
DUTY FR33
90
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Psycho Sangers wrote:CCP Have removed all vehicle BPO's. I expect they will do the same when they respec another part of the game. I DON'T want AURUM I Want my BPO. MONEY MONEY MONEY. CORPRATE GREED RANT RANT RANT.
Ok I said it but that is not Cricket. This is obviously a troll post. This can be scientifically proven. 1. Not all vehicle BPOs are being removed. Only four of them. 2. You paid AUR for those four militia BPO, not cash. You paid cash for AUR according to Sony's transaction records. You got AUR refunded to you by CCP. No problem here.3. What evidence do you have besides assumptions that CCP will remove more BPOs from your inventory?
Now you see this is where you are VERY WRONG, you see THEIR "REFUND" is FORCED upon the Client, we as in those which invested CA$H into DUST to support them, were not even taken into consideration. CCP did not wish to reach a MUTUAL AGREEMENT.
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Herman Hardon
The Rainbow Effect
29
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch , so would you say there was a problem with the contact nades as they were originally advertised on the market? If ur answer is "yes" then ccp should have given the option to buy back their defective product, left what we purchased and in our inventory "as is" or recalled all that they had sold . This is normal custom for any item that is found to be faulty or "broken" . CCP gave me no options , even after submiting a very polite trouble ticket. They told me to post my issue on forms. What kinda business practice is that to send ur custmers into this troll infested forum ? |
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