I hit a Madruger with 2 lai dais and a swarm volley and didn't get through his shields

This is insane. There is no way they tested this.

I hit a Madruger with 2 lai dais and a swarm volley and didn't get through his shields

This is insane. There is no way they tested this.

Are tanks now well, tanks? Or are they even worse than before? How is the gunlogi now, is it useable? Tanking as a whole, better or worse? Details

What im trying to ask is; are tanks still sh~t? Does having SP into vehicles still suck enough for me to buy a ps4? Because it really did. I am serious.

Wait until he stops glowing. Even better, sneak up on him. Old camping tactics won't cut it. They can see you now, and fight back.

If you can get him to start glowing early, you've got him. Once those hardeners are on cooldown, he's meat unless his team is back him up. Once they fix the bugged nitros, you'll be fine.

That sounds great, when there's four tanks and infantry?

I've been playing a minute, it's just OP. It's OP if they put AV back to yesterday's numbers AND they are dirt cheap.

Bro, keep in mind that vehicles are currently at year zero. This is definitely NOT the new standard. They're going to be doing adjustments based on performance. Keep giving your feedback, keep pointing out what you feel is wrong, and they'll listen. Don't be surprised if AV is buffed to compensate.

One thing that really gets to me is... This problem.. Is really OBVIOUS! I mean like.. Does CCP themselves not play the update before hand and say "Wow these armor tanks are way too fast!" Or "Damn Tanks can just eat swarms and av nades all day!"

That bothers me...

One thing that really gets to me is... This problem.. Is really OBVIOUS! I mean like.. Does CCP themselves not play the update before hand and say "Wow these armor tanks are way too fast!" Or "Damn Tanks can just eat swarms and av nades all day!"

That bothers me...

The first few games today I didn't see many tanks. This evening it changed. I guess they were figuring **** out and getting fit.

I have proto nades, swarms you name it. I fit a suit with dampeners so they couldn't scan me down and they ust eat infantry AV. They aren't even scared of Forges. Even if they were their tank is likely cheaper than a proto dropsuit.

It took 2 matches this evening to see that the balance was HORRIBLY off. I can't ******* believe that they tested this.

I know it's patch day, but this isn't a bug. This is closed beta level God mode tanks, they are cheap, and the AV is a joke.

I'll just call in militia tanks instead using the millions of SP I've spent in AV.

Are tanks now well, tanks? Or are they even worse than before? How is the gunlogi now, is it useable? Tanking as a whole, better or worse? Details

What im trying to ask is; are tanks still sh~t? Does having SP into vehicles still suck enough for me to buy a ps4? Because it really did. I am serious.

One thing that really gets to me is... This problem.. Is really OBVIOUS! I mean like.. Does CCP themselves not play the update before hand and say "Wow these armor tanks are way too fast!" Or "Damn Tanks can just eat swarms and av nades all day!"

That bothers me...

If missiles are traveling slower than tanks then we have a promblem lol. Theres a reason we use them in real life durring jet dog fights; because they go super sonic and are faster than jets. If AV missiles cant catch a tank well... that doesent sound balanced at all, still. Also sounds like the madrugar is STILL more maneuverable than shield tanks. So it appears tanks and AV are still unbalanced, and things continues to make no sence. That is why i bought a ps4

Are tanks now well, tanks? Or are they even worse than before? How is the gunlogi now, is it useable? Tanking as a whole, better or worse? Details

What im trying to ask is; are tanks still sh~t? Does having SP into vehicles still suck enough for me to buy a ps4? Because it really did. I am serious.

i've had a laugh with the tanks today, well the gunlogi at least

the speed they go at, and the large missile turrets are hilarious, in a good way

the gunlogi doesnt seem to have to hide away from the madrugers anymore which is a bonus

and they cheaper, the gunlogi with complex modules and proto missiles only costs 500k isk

deffo worth a ganders

It is unfreakin real how OP tanks are right now. A ******* monkey could be handed a tank and be god mode right now.

AV is ****.

These devs simply can't balance this game.

That sounds great, when there's four tanks and infantry?

I've been playing a minute, it's just OP. It's OP if they put AV back to yesterday's numbers AND they are dirt cheap.

Are tanks now well, tanks? Or are they even worse than before? How is the gunlogi now, is it useable? Tanking as a whole, better or worse? Details

What im trying to ask is; are tanks still sh~t? Does having SP into vehicles still suck enough for me to buy a ps4? Because it really did. I am serious.

Same here. I couldn't kill a ******* soma with my proto av nades :(
I ended up calling out my mlt soma to blow it up

Do not listen to these guys they are over hyping tanks. It is initial excitement.

They are not OMG OP.

Now currently armor tanks speed up to fast. And on top of that if you throw on a nitro mod they gain insane speed up time.

They need to cut the top speed in half and then lower there over all speed up time and it will fix most problems with armor tanks.

Armor tanks do have a big advantage because of this on infantry they do not really need hardeners because they can get out of town in no time. along with a constant repping of 100+ HP per passive armor repper. That always runs.

I can 2 clip a armor tank with a proto missile turret while running a damage mod. Without 2.5 on a well built one. Missile tank vs blaster tank equals win because it does not do enough damage to stop the shield regen when running a hardener. But if you run into a maddy running rail it is a battle bec ause the damn rail stops the regen on your shield. so it comes down teeth bared.

Missile turrets have to be direct hits or else you have to be hitting right on the toes of infantry to kill them so kind of sucks in that aspect. Along with missile turrets have the damn turn rate of a rail well a little faster but not much.

I feel shield tanks are in a amazing place right now. You got shock factor and can get out of the fight to regen. But if someone is smart and has a advantage on you as you leave the combat zone without hardeners they can pop you very very quick solo.

Forge gunners can still camp roofs so you get 2 proto forges on a roof and your ****** because they can cover the whole map while you can not do **** back to them.

So the major issues currently are:
*Armor has insane top speed
*Armor also has okay acceleration add in the nitro mod it makes it better acceleration then shield tanks
*Shield lack lower mods. Really nothing worth while to use. Makes it boring in that aspect. Would not mind a small percentage decrease in speed and handling if they brought back nano fibers for shield tank that put them little above what we have now. But of coarse other mods need to come out to make it a choice between them.
*Forges need range decrease but a damage put back to normal. AV should be out of effective range of tanks antiinfantry weapons but not so far away that they do not even render.

Once AV relearns how to engage tanks some of the OP feelings are going to disappear as tankers start getting killed very quickly during hardener cool down.

*I am not saying that tanks are not OP currently. I am saying they are not OMG OP. Small adjustments will fix half the issues. Tanks do need some aspect toned down. But little steps. AV learning how to play differently will fix the other half. Rules of engagement have changes. Tanks have a shock factor now when entering a battle. But AV learning how to catch them when they disengage will start slowing tanks down because tanks are paper during this time.

Cut the speed and cut the speed bonus given by nitro boosters. That way tanks can't jet out of trouble at dropship speed the moment they see their hardners turn off. They need to be watching their hardners and know when to get out, not rely on broken boosters.

That being said, as a Prof. 5 swarm user, tanks are in an interesting place right now. I'm not 100% sure that the length of hardners active time is just right, they seem to last a little too long when someone you know has max skill in them rolls along. If CCP plans to balance tanks with proto tanks in mind, the length of those hardners needs to come down a hair. But it can wait till the proto tanks get here, honestly if the speed issue were fixed I think there would be a lot less QQ. AV just has to learn when to fire and when to stalk it's prey waiting for the right time to pounce (of course it's impossible to stalk an 80MPH tank on foot, so that's still top of the list for fixes).

Are tanks now well, tanks? Or are they even worse than before? How is the gunlogi now, is it useable? Tanking as a whole, better or worse? Details

What im trying to ask is; are tanks still sh~t? Does having SP into vehicles still suck enough for me to buy a ps4? Because it really did. I am serious.