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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:30:00 -
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Anyone who has been part of the EVE community for an extended period of time might be familiar with some of the amazing tools developed by the community. Tools such as EVE Fitting Tool, Pyfa, EVE HQ, and one of the hundreds of other applications come from third party developers. One of the core things that powers those tools is what is commonly referred to as the EVE Static Data Export, or the SDE. Basically the SDE contains lots of information that doesn't change between patches. Information such as a ships hit points, the number of slots a ship has, how much damage a weapon does, and many other things.
One of the problems with DUST getting an SDE is that it stores data in a completely different way and unlike EVE we cannot just dump all of that data. We have to go through and select which bits should get dumped. Over the last few months I have been working away in my spare time to try and get something similar to the EVE SDE for DUST ready. This has meant trying to figure out the best format for it, put together an automated build setup so that it's always current, and trying to make sure everything you guys need is there.
Today I finally get the pleasure of announcing to you guys that we have something ready for release. Before we get into it though I want to be very clear. This SDE is being released with no support. Like with EVE, how the data works will be up to you guys to figure out. I also really want to point you all to an object that exists within New Eden: Magic Crystal Ball. This is especially important as since this data export has required whitelisting attributes, some may have been missed.
I will do my very best to try and update the DUST SDE where necessary, to answer questions here, and all those fun things. For now however, here is a link to the DUST SDE for Uprising 1.7: DUST SDE Download
As stated above DUST stores it's information in a much different format than EVE. This also means that the SDE is going to take a slightly different format than the EVE SDE. Here is a quick list of things to know about the DUST SDE:
- It is an SQLite3 DB file
- There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes
- CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName
- CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className
- Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID
- CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText
- Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value
- I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback.
MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL! Please don't create threadnaughts about information you find within this SDE. I wouldn't want to have to take it away because of all the fear inducing rage it creates.
Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit
http://twitter.com/regnerba
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CCP Cognac
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:49:00 -
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omg omg omg omg omg |
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Grit Breather
Cannonfodder PMC
872
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 -
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Reserved
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 -
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In support of this news, I'd like to remind everybody that we have a Dust Development IRC channel on Coldfront.net named #dust-dev (parallel to #eve-dev and #DUST514 channels). Here we have some various people currently engaged in 3rd party FanSites (Myself w/ dust.thang.dk, Heinz Doofenshertz from http://Dust514Stats.com etc), and we will be digging into the SDE and discussing our findings there over the next days and weeks.
In parallel, a new website has been created for documenting 3rd party development for EVE:Online, Dust514 and EVE:Valkyrie - http://www.NewEden-Dev.com/ So far it is just a mostly-empty Wiki (MediaWiki), but as we discover things from the Dust-SDE and collect details from the EVE-SDE and EVE-API. End-goal is to create a 1-stop-shop for all the information one would need for developing for anything in the EVE / New Eden universe.
Note: We are aware of the efforts already done for the EVE-SDE and EVE-API, and we have reached out to e.g. "Peter Powers" of http://3rdPartyEve.net who has confirmed that 3rd party Dust sites will be welcome there as well.
Team Fairy DUST
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Mc Ribwich
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 -
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YES
Dust 514 video maker
Subdreddit EU director and co-director of propaganda
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Grit Breather
Cannonfodder PMC
872
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 -
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Reserved
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Dexter Peabody
Goonfeet Top Men.
85
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 -
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Jetpacks? |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 -
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I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it. Also, Fitting tool +1 kthx bai.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
267
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D
When I'm done integrating it, I'll open up my site.... give me a few hours...days...weeks though
Team Fairy DUST
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Musta Tornius
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 -
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Woo, sde!!! Time to see what info I can get.
Dust514 Weapon Range & Information
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
847
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:07:00 -
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Epic! Well done CCP FoxFour!
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1339
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:07:00 -
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Sweet! Goodness will come of this. +1 ?o?Four.
I support SP rollover.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
993
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:18:00 -
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Congrats foxy
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
[email protected]
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1200
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:44:00 -
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I have no idea what you just said. Have an upvote.
I guess this means more community tools? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:51:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:I have no idea what you just said. Have an upvote.
I guess this means more community tools?
Thats the hope! :D
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit
http://twitter.com/regnerba
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:52:00 -
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this..... is massive.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:55:00 -
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CCP, Are you willing to zipdump DUST 514 3D models on us someday? There are ppl out there who would apparently like to make DUST version of Clear Skies Or costumes for cosplay at Fanfest... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3935794#post3935794
F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
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Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:56:00 -
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Bravo to FoxFour for doing this in your spare time!
However, at the same time it's a little disconcerting that it had to be done in a dev's spare time - given the obvious value of 3rd party tools to building and supporting MMO communities.
Fanfest 2012 - Winning Team + MVP - £1100 in prizes
Fanfest 2013 - Winning Team - £500 in prizes
Fanfest 2014 - ???
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2063
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:03:00 -
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On this like ugly on an ape.
Hail Satan
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Abu Stij
WaffleDingos
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:12:00 -
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omg omg omg omg
Do You Like Waffles?
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
2203
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:17:00 -
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Christmas is real!
"When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
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Samahiel
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:02:00 -
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As someone who's a perpetual pessimist. This is really, really cool. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:04:00 -
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Samahiel wrote:As someone who's a perpetual pessimist. This is really, really cool.
This message was brought to you by Top Men (tm).
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:10:00 -
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i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:22:00 -
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straya fox wrote:i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out.
It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on.
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit
http://twitter.com/regnerba
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Abu Stij
WaffleDingos
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:30:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:straya fox wrote:i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on.
Google isn't allowed on Macs. Steve Jobs dying wish.
Do You Like Waffles?
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:04:00 -
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I was trying a write a quick script to dump it all into a text file that more human readable but Dust updated to quick
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
What is a signature?
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Argo Filch
Cannonfodder PMC
66
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:04:00 -
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straya fox wrote:i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out.
Valentina Studio is free to use after registering and and the most professional feeling tool to query the data from that sqlite file. And there's also a bunch of open source tools too you can use.
Google is your friend but i'd really recommend Valentina Studio. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2064
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:05:00 -
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straya fox wrote:i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out.
MesaSQLIite is open source and will let you browse the data.
Hail Satan
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Earl Crushinator
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:10:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:straya fox wrote:i guess it's not for mac
edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. MesaSQLIite is open source and will let you browse the data.
And there's always sqlite3 via the Terminal if you want to start a unix beard. |
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