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CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14120	Posted - 2013.12.10 10:30:00 - [1] - Quote Anyone who has been part of the EVE community for an extended period of time might be familiar with some of the amazing tools developed by the community. Tools such as EVE Fitting Tool, Pyfa, EVE HQ, and one of the hundreds of other applications come from third party developers. One of the core things that powers those tools is what is commonly referred to as the EVE Static Data Export, or the SDE. Basically the SDE contains lots of information that doesn't change between patches. Information such as a ships hit points, the number of slots a ship has, how much damage a weapon does, and many other things. One of the problems with DUST getting an SDE is that it stores data in a completely different way and unlike EVE we cannot just dump all of that data. We have to go through and select which bits should get dumped. Over the last few months I have been working away in my spare time to try and get something similar to the EVE SDE for DUST ready. This has meant trying to figure out the best format for it, put together an automated build setup so that it's always current, and trying to make sure everything you guys need is there. Today I finally get the pleasure of announcing to you guys that we have something ready for release. Before we get into it though I want to be very clear. This SDE is being released with no support. Like with EVE, how the data works will be up to you guys to figure out. I also really want to point you all to an object that exists within New Eden: Magic Crystal Ball. This is especially important as since this data export has required whitelisting attributes, some may have been missed. I will do my very best to try and update the DUST SDE where necessary, to answer questions here, and all those fun things. For now however, here is a link to the DUST SDE for Uprising 1.7: DUST SDE Download As stated above DUST stores it's information in a much different format than EVE. This also means that the SDE is going to take a slightly different format than the EVE SDE. Here is a quick list of things to know about the DUST SDE: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL! Please don't create threadnaughts about information you find within this SDE. I wouldn't want to have to take it away because of all the fear inducing rage it creates. Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba


CCP Cognac C C P C C P Alliance 155	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:49:00 - [2] - Quote omg omg omg omg omg

Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 872	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 - [3] - Quote Reserved "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
G Torq ALTA B2O 267	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 - [4] - Quote In support of this news, I'd like to remind everybody that we have a Dust Development IRC channel on Coldfront.net named #dust-dev (parallel to #eve-dev and #DUST514 channels). Here we have some various people currently engaged in 3rd party FanSites (Myself w/ dust.thang.dk, Heinz Doofenshertz from http://Dust514Stats.com etc), and we will be digging into the SDE and discussing our findings there over the next days and weeks. In parallel, a new website has been created for documenting 3rd party development for EVE:Online, Dust514 and EVE:Valkyrie - http://www.NewEden-Dev.com/ So far it is just a mostly-empty Wiki (MediaWiki), but as we discover things from the Dust-SDE and collect details from the EVE-SDE and EVE-API. End-goal is to create a 1-stop-shop for all the information one would need for developing for anything in the EVE / New Eden universe. Note: We are aware of the efforts already done for the EVE-SDE and EVE-API, and we have reached out to e.g. "Peter Powers" of http://3rdPartyEve.net who has confirmed that 3rd party Dust sites will be welcome there as well. Team Fairy DUST
Mc Ribwich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 431	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 - [5] - Quote YES Dust 514 video maker Subdreddit EU director and co-director of propaganda Twitter
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 872	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:50:00 - [6] - Quote Reserved "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Dexter Peabody Goonfeet Top Men. 85	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 - [7] - Quote Jetpacks?

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 3988	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 - [8] - Quote I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it. Also, Fitting tool +1 kthx bai. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

G Torq ALTA B2O 267	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:51:00 - [9] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D When I'm done integrating it, I'll open up my site.... give me a few hours...days...weeks though Team Fairy DUST
Musta Tornius Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 677	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 - [10] - Quote Woo, sde!!! Time to see what info I can get. Dust514 Weapon Range & Information

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 847	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:07:00 - [11] - Quote Epic! Well done CCP FoxFour! KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1339	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:07:00 - [12] - Quote Sweet! Goodness will come of this. +1 ?o?Four. I support SP rollover.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 993	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:18:00 - [13] - Quote Congrats foxy 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1200	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:44:00 - [14] - Quote I have no idea what you just said. Have an upvote. I guess this means more community tools?

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14129	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:51:00 - [15] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I have no idea what you just said. Have an upvote. I guess this means more community tools? Thats the hope! :D CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 580	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:52:00 - [16] - Quote this..... is massive. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 725	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:55:00 - [17] - Quote CCP, Are you willing to zipdump DUST 514 3D models on us someday? There are ppl out there who would apparently like to make DUST version of Clear Skies Or costumes for cosplay at Fanfest... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3935794#post3935794 F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
Absolute Idiom II SyNergy Gaming EoN. 915	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:56:00 - [18] - Quote Bravo to FoxFour for doing this in your spare time! However, at the same time it's a little disconcerting that it had to be done in a dev's spare time - given the obvious value of 3rd party tools to building and supporting MMO communities. Fanfest 2012 - Winning Team + MVP - £1100 in prizes Fanfest 2013 - Winning Team - £500 in prizes Fanfest 2014 - ???
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2063	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:03:00 - [19] - Quote On this like ugly on an ape. Hail Satan
Abu Stij WaffleDingos 257	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:12:00 - [20] - Quote omg omg omg omg Do You Like Waffles?

Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2203	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:17:00 - [21] - Quote Christmas is real! "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
Samahiel Goonfeet Top Men. 86	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:02:00 - [22] - Quote As someone who's a perpetual pessimist. This is really, really cool.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5772	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:04:00 - [23] - Quote Samahiel wrote: As someone who's a perpetual pessimist. This is really, really cool. This message was brought to you by Top Men (tm). OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 121	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:10:00 - [24] - Quote i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14141	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:22:00 - [25] - Quote straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Abu Stij WaffleDingos 257	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:30:00 - [26] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on. Google isn't allowed on Macs. Steve Jobs dying wish. Do You Like Waffles?
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 383	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:04:00 - [27] - Quote I was trying a write a quick script to dump it all into a text file that more human readable but Dust updated to quick ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
Argo Filch Cannonfodder PMC 66	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:04:00 - [28] - Quote straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. Valentina Studio is free to use after registering and and the most professional feeling tool to query the data from that sqlite file. And there's also a bunch of open source tools too you can use. Google is your friend but i'd really recommend Valentina Studio.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2064	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:05:00 - [29] - Quote straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. MesaSQLIite is open source and will let you browse the data. Hail Satan
Earl Crushinator Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 192	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:10:00 - [30] - Quote dent 308 wrote: straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. MesaSQLIite is open source and will let you browse the data. And there's always sqlite3 via the Terminal if you want to start a unix beard.

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 715	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:38:00 - [31] - Quote It's... It's... Beautiful. Thank you FoxFour, I may even stop referring to you as Sox now... ...Maybe .
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 399	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:42:00 - [32] - Quote This seems interesting. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 31	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:44:00 - [33] - Quote Woo! Thanks CCP FoxFour Now, I'm hoping this is provided under the same basic rules as the Eve SDE, which means that I'm not going to get slapped for the conversions I've stuck here: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/dump/dust/uprising-1.7-667061/ It's a lot less needed than conversions for the Eve SDE, as, iirc, PHP has a PDO driver for sqlite built in. However, some people (me, at least) like sticking to the same DB type as much as possible. And want something a little more feature packed. I'd expect to have a basic browser up and running pretty quickly. Not to sound ungrateful, because I am grateful, would it be possible to get the layout data for the nifty map that we have in Dust added to the SDE at some stage? (I keep asking for it. Sometimes I think I sound like a stuck record)
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1459	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:45:00 - [34] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Anyone who has been part of the EVE community for an extended period of time might be familiar with some of the amazing tools developed by the community. Tools such as EVE Fitting Tool, Pyfa, EVE HQ, and one of the hundreds of other applications come from third party developers. One of the core things that powers those tools is what is commonly referred to as the EVE Static Data Export, or the SDE. Basically the SDE contains lots of information that doesn't change between patches. Information such as a ships hit points, the number of slots a ship has, how much damage a weapon does, and many other things. One of the problems with DUST getting an SDE is that it stores data in a completely different way and unlike EVE we cannot just dump all of that data. We have to go through and select which bits should get dumped. Over the last few months I have been working away in my spare time to try and get something similar to the EVE SDE for DUST ready. This has meant trying to figure out the best format for it, put together an automated build setup so that it's always current, and trying to make sure everything you guys need is there. Today I finally get the pleasure of announcing to you guys that we have something ready for release. Before we get into it though I want to be very clear. This SDE is being released with no support. Like with EVE, how the data works will be up to you guys to figure out. I also really want to point you all to an object that exists within New Eden: Magic Crystal Ball. This is especially important as since this data export has required whitelisting attributes, some may have been missed. I will do my very best to try and update the DUST SDE where necessary, to answer questions here, and all those fun things. For now however, here is a link to the DUST SDE for Uprising 1.7: DUST SDE Download As stated above DUST stores it's information in a much different format than EVE. This also means that the SDE is going to take a slightly different format than the EVE SDE. Here is a quick list of things to know about the DUST SDE: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL! Please don't create threadnaughts about information you find within this SDE. I wouldn't want to have to take it away because of all the fear inducing rage it creates. Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D I have no idea what this is. Has somebody explained it. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 70	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:00:00 - [35] - Quote does this relate to the canceled vita app at all?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1854	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:23:00 - [36] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Samahiel wrote: As someone who's a perpetual pessimist. This is really, really cool. This message was brought to you by Top Men (tm). Hey Top Men made the first PC tracking tool Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. 141	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:53:00 - [37] - Quote Steve Renuken wrote: Woo! Thanks CCP FoxFour Now, I'm hoping this is provided under the same basic rules as the Eve SDE, which means that I'm not going to get slapped for the conversions I've stuck here: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/dump/dust/uprising-1.7-667061/ It's a lot less needed than conversions for the Eve SDE, as, iirc, PHP has a PDO driver for sqlite built in. However, some people (me, at least) like sticking to the same DB type as much as possible. And want something a little more feature packed. I'd expect to have a basic browser up and running pretty quickly. Not to sound ungrateful, because I am grateful, would it be possible to get the layout data for the nifty map that we have in Dust added to the SDE at some stage? (I keep asking for it. Sometimes I think I sound like a stuck record) Thanks for doing this, I'm much more comfortable working with WampServer than SQLite3 and this saves me the trouble of actually figuring out how to convert them all to MySQL.
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 97	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:28:00 - [38] - Quote For years we've been promised a 3rd party developer agreement for Eve. As it stands developers are forbidden to monetize their applications. I assume we are in the same situation with Dust. Developer accounts for the major phone OS manufacturers cost money. It's $99 per year typically. This adds up. Without being able to charge a small fee for my applications I'm forced to add advertisement into them to pay the bills. That disgusts me as the ads make any UI design ugly. I want to provide my users with an ad-free option. When can we expect a 3rd party agreement that allows us to charge for our applications?
Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 32	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:34:00 - [39] - Quote Turkevich wrote: For years we've been promised a 3rd party developer agreement for Eve. As it stands developers are forbidden to monetize their applications. I assume we are in the same situation with Dust. Developer accounts for the major phone OS manufacturers cost money. It's $99 per year typically. This adds up. Without being able to charge a small fee for my applications I'm forced to add advertisement into them to pay the bills. That disgusts me as the ads make any UI design ugly. I want to provide my users with an ad-free option. When can we expect a 3rd party agreement that allows us to charge for our applications? Typically = On Apple's store. The Google Play store is a one off $25 fee. I wouldn't hold your breath, when it comes to being able to charge for these Apps. Not unless you want to talk directly to CCP to arrange a licensing agreement, to monetize their IP.
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 97	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:35:00 - [40] - Quote Steve Renuken wrote: Typically = On Apple's store. You forgot Windows Phone. Don't worry, so has most of the world.

Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 32	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:56:00 - [41] - Quote Turkevich wrote: Steve Renuken wrote: Typically = On Apple's store. You forgot Windows Phone. Don't worry, so has most of the world. Heh. $19 a year for an individual account, $99 for a company account. The individual account /looks/ like it should be fine? Then there's Blackberry, but who used them?
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 97	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:12:00 - [42] - Quote Steve Renuken wrote: Turkevich wrote: Steve Renuken wrote: Typically = On Apple's store. You forgot Windows Phone. Don't worry, so has most of the world. Heh. $19 a year for an individual account, $99 for a company account. The individual account /looks/ like it should be fine? Then there's Blackberry, but who used them? They just lowered the individual account price. I have a company account though. I got it when they cost the same.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1971	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:38:00 - [43] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. ARRGH I wish I knew what all this stuff was!!! When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
Musta Tornius Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 679	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:19:00 - [44] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. ARRGH I wish I knew what all this stuff was!!! It's just one big data file with things such HP for dropsuits, damage for weapons, PG cost for modules etc. Pretty much anything you can think off. FoxFour hasn't added every possible thing there is in dust but there is a lot, and certainly every single ingame item (and some not yet in too ;) ) Dust514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
G Torq ALTA B2O 271	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:37:00 - [45] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on. He will have SQLite3 command-line tools built into his OS - he should be be just fine... Team Fairy DUST
G Torq ALTA B2O 271	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:38:00 - [46] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. ARRGH I wish I knew what all this stuff was!!! Patrick57, allow me to show you what all this stuff means: http://dust.thang.dk/showgearcomparison.php?gear=363604,365448,363491,365442,353114 Team Fairy DUST
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2483	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:39:00 - [47] - Quote \o/ That's amazing. Can't wait to see all the great tools that come out of this. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 185	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:23:00 - [48] - Quote This is a little thing???????? ******* awsome thing is more like it!!!
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1974	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:28:00 - [49] - Quote G Torq wrote: Patrick57 wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: It is an SQLite3 DB file There are 3 tables in the DB. CatmaClasses, CatmaTypes, CatmaAttributes CatmaTypes contains all of the types with their typeID and typeName CatmaClasses contains every type with their typeID and className Types can possibly have 2 classes, hence why it's actually a seperate table and possibly has multiple entries per typeID CatmaAttributes contains types with typeID, catmaAttributeName, catmaValueInt, catmaValueReal, and catmaValueText Generally speaking only one of the three value columns in CatmaAttributes will actually have a value I am a game designer who attempted to do something crazy. This has been a big learning experience for me so please hang in there while I attempt to improve this SDE based on your feedback. ARRGH I wish I knew what all this stuff was!!! Patrick57, allow me to show you what all this stuff means: http://dust.thang.dk/showgearcomparison.php?gear=363604,365448,363491,365442,353114 Thank you sir!!! When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 666	Posted - 2013.12.11 07:17:00 - [50] - Quote Is this something the SDE cache can illustrate? [Tracking player contributions to their corporation via donations and collected tax records] [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 143	Posted - 2013.12.11 08:58:00 - [51] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Is this something the SDE cache can illustrate? [Tracking player contributions to their corporation via donations and collected tax records] No, this isn't something the SDE's are done for - this would require support from CREST and authorization to it. I really hope that we will see full CREST for both EVE and DUST soon, it's already a year or two late :(
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 666	Posted - 2013.12.11 09:29:00 - [52] - Quote Thanks for the clarification DeeJay. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 861	Posted - 2013.12.11 09:55:00 - [53] - Quote Oohhhhh very very very nice! DUSTBoard - Mercenary sheets DUSTSearch - DUST Forum mirror

zuun cyber Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.12.11 10:45:00 - [54] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Now... where is my DUST fitting tool. :D working on it ... the api for the skills will really help out for a complete fitting tool and make the life easy for the user as updating the skills will take time
Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 32	Posted - 2013.12.11 10:47:00 - [55] - Quote https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/catma/ it's a very rough pass. will show you everything in the same super-category (where they share the same parent category. First category up is level, standard, advanced, etc. then you have the type.)

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14186	Posted - 2013.12.11 14:40:00 - [56] - Quote Steve Renuken wrote: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/catma/ it's a very rough pass. will show you everything in the same super-category (where they share the same parent category. First category up is level, standard, advanced, etc. then you have the type.) Thats a great start! Please keep us updated with your progress and well done good sir! :D CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14186	Posted - 2013.12.11 14:42:00 - [57] - Quote G Torq wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: straya fox wrote: i guess it's not for mac edit- mac users have feelings to you know, feels bad to be left out. It's an SQLite3 file. I am sure if you search Google you can find something for browsing SQLite3 files. However if you don't know what an SQLite3 file is, it's probably best just to pretend it doesn't exist and move on. He will have SQLite3 command-line tools built into his OS - he should be be just fine... Shows you what I know of Macs :( CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14186	Posted - 2013.12.11 14:47:00 - [58] - Quote I am currently aware of a few issues with the SDE. Mainly: * typeID 351320 is missing from it and referenced in vehicles. For now know it's a type for the passenger seat. * Slots on vehicles and dropsuits have a missing attribute known as visibility and this is missing. You will notice some vehicles have more slots in the SDE than they do on TQ. Thats because of this. * Icons for some of the new types in 1.7 are missing from the TQ image server. While not directly SDE related it does affect tools. Shall hopefully have a fix for this soon. The missing type and attribute will be added in the next version of the SDE and I will try and get a new version generated for Friday or Monday. Keep the amazing work up guys! You are doing wonderful things with this and I cannot wait to see more. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 56	Posted - 2013.12.11 18:13:00 - [59] - Quote Very cool!
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 100	Posted - 2013.12.11 18:34:00 - [60] - Quote I've started updating my skill planner to use the SDE. I'm using Where(x => x.catmaAttributeName == "slotType" && x.catmaValueText == "SKL")) to find skill books. Is there a better way? https://bitbucket.org/Fezzik/dustskillplanner/overview

Severus Smith Caldari State 476	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:01:00 - [61] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I am currently aware of a few issues with the SDE. Mainly: * typeID 351320 is missing from it and referenced in vehicles. For now know it's a type for the passenger seat. * Slots on vehicles and dropsuits have a missing attribute known as visibility and this is missing. You will notice some vehicles have more slots in the SDE than they do on TQ. Thats because of this. * Icons for some of the new types in 1.7 are missing from the TQ image server. While not directly SDE related it does affect tools. Shall hopefully have a fix for this soon. The missing type and attribute will be added in the next version of the SDE and I will try and get a new version generated for Friday or Monday. Keep the amazing work up guys! You are doing wonderful things with this and I cannot wait to see more. Ok FoxFour, this has been bugging me. What the heck is Catma? I work with Databases a lot and have never heard of it. Some internet searching turns up some Genome Microarray sequence DB (or something) yet despite looking for some time I can't find anything on any other DB engine with any reference to the term "Catma". So unless DUST's data is stored as a DNA sequence I am thoroughly confused...
Jean afer Salpun Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:16:00 - [62] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I am currently aware of a few issues with the SDE. Mainly: * typeID 351320 is missing from it and referenced in vehicles. For now know it's a type for the passenger seat. * Slots on vehicles and dropsuits have a missing attribute known as visibility and this is missing. You will notice some vehicles have more slots in the SDE than they do on TQ. Thats because of this. * Icons for some of the new types in 1.7 are missing from the TQ image server. While not directly SDE related it does affect tools. Shall hopefully have a fix for this soon. The missing type and attribute will be added in the next version of the SDE and I will try and get a new version generated for Friday or Monday. Keep the amazing work up guys! You are doing wonderful things with this and I cannot wait to see more. Ok FoxFour, this has been bugging me. What the heck is Catma? I work with Databases a lot and have never heard of it. Some internet searching turns up some Genome Microarray sequence DB (or something) yet despite looking for some time I can't find anything on any other DB engine with any reference to the term "Catma". So unless DUST's data is stored as a DNA sequence I am thoroughly confused... Catma is the in house name for the database that holds the info and the coding for how it is accessed. Eve devs use catma on the eve side while dust devs using almost the same database code call it dogma. Having the same source code allows information to pass from one system to the other allowing orbital strikes and other things like the combined in game market (SoonTM) and 3rd party tools like the kill mail readers and out of game fitting tools. SDE's allow 3rd party developers to have an "official" source for stats instead of guessing from in game experience.
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 100	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:55:00 - [63] - Quote I finished converting my skill planner to use the SDE. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1595431#post1595431
Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 36	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:09:00 - [64] - Quote Jean afer Salpun wrote: Severus Smith wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I am currently aware of a few issues with the SDE. Mainly: * typeID 351320 is missing from it and referenced in vehicles. For now know it's a type for the passenger seat. * Slots on vehicles and dropsuits have a missing attribute known as visibility and this is missing. You will notice some vehicles have more slots in the SDE than they do on TQ. Thats because of this. * Icons for some of the new types in 1.7 are missing from the TQ image server. While not directly SDE related it does affect tools. Shall hopefully have a fix for this soon. The missing type and attribute will be added in the next version of the SDE and I will try and get a new version generated for Friday or Monday. Keep the amazing work up guys! You are doing wonderful things with this and I cannot wait to see more. Ok FoxFour, this has been bugging me. What the heck is Catma? I work with Databases a lot and have never heard of it. Some internet searching turns up some Genome Microarray sequence DB (or something) yet despite looking for some time I can't find anything on any other DB engine with any reference to the term "Catma". So unless DUST's data is stored as a DNA sequence I am thoroughly confused... Catma/Dogma is the in house names for the databases that holds the info and the coding for how it is accessed. Eve devs use dogma on the eve side while dust devs using almost the same database code call it catma. Might be the reverse. Having the same source code allows information to pass from one system to the other allowing orbital strikes and other things like the combined in game market (SoonTM) and 3rd party tools like the kill mail readers and out of game fitting tools. SDE's allow 3rd party developers to have an "official" source for stats instead of guessing from in game experience. Dogma is the Eve DB of effects. all the attributes which affect game play are in there. in the eve SDE, you'll find it in the dgm* tables. 'An authoritative principle, belief, or statement of ideas or opinion, especially one considered to be absolutely true.' Catma, well, the name is a joke. just one of those jokes that sticks. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Batma in WoD.
Shadowz42 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:10:00 - [65] - Quote For all the 3rd party devs, if you're not following @fuzzysteve on twitter, you should. He does all kinds of data transformation for the EVE SDE and it looks like he's starting it for Dust now too. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/dump/dust/
Severus Smith Caldari State 484	Posted - 2013.12.12 14:11:00 - [66] - Quote Jean afer Salpun wrote: Catma/Dogma is the in house names for the databases that holds the info and the coding for how it is accessed. Eve devs use dogma on the eve side while dust devs using almost the same database code call it catma. Might be the reverse. Having the same source code allows information to pass from one system to the other allowing orbital strikes and other things like the combined in game market (SoonTM) and 3rd party tools like the kill mail readers and out of game fitting tools. SDE's allow 3rd party developers to have an "official" source for stats instead of guessing from in game experience. Ok, so it is an in house name. Make sense now. Like I said, I work with databases and had never heard of Catma. So when people first mentioned it I thought they were mistaken as DUST couldn't use a DNA sequencing array to hold their data. But when FoxFour's files had "Catma" in the name I was just confused. Thanks for the information.
Steve Renuken Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 36	Posted - 2013.12.13 10:51:00 - [67] - Quote Shadowz42 wrote: For all the 3rd party devs, if you're not following @fuzzysteve on twitter, you should. He does all kinds of data transformation for the EVE SDE and it looks like he's starting it for Dust now too. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/dump/dust/ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1588299#post1588299 There's no escaping me.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14261	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:05:00 - [68] - Quote This new version was supposed to also include the HMG changes and such, but it appears I may have failed. Give me a few moments to look into this. :) CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14262	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:20:00 - [69] - Quote Due to a misunderstanding on my part this release still contains data from the December 10th release, just with the added class and attribute. My apologies. New and proper version to follow tomorrow hopefully. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2308	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:23:00 - [70] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Due to a misunderstanding on my part this release still contains data from the December 10th release, just with the added class and attribute. My apologies. New and proper version to follow tomorrow hopefully. Looking forward to it! A huge thanks again for doing the work on the SDE. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news

G Torq ALTA B2O 323	Posted - 2013.12.19 16:05:00 - [71] - Quote Spasibo! Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
zuun cyber Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:17:00 - [72] - Quote anyway to include the @hardcoded values? (typeID 254138 - Sprint Duration, 354139 - Accuracy Rating and 354137 - Sprint Speed) will be nice to have access to the values. another thing i'm not sure how is working ... basePrice ... how can you get the final price from that? thanks
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 546	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:58:00 - [73] - Quote I've been working on a little tool lately just to toy around with the SDE. Might make a thread when it's more developed SDETool Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
Cyrus Grevare WarRavens League of Infamy 119	Posted - 2014.03.15 00:11:00 - [74] - Quote So, in future iterations of the SDE, do existing items that get rebalanced keep their typeID or do they get a new one? I'm wondering if the information gets updated or new information is added to the DB. Gauging by the current ID count, I'm guessing we get new IDs and the current SDE only includes currently valid items (1.7) ? www.protofits.com - a fitting tool project
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:38:00 - [75] - Quote Can you release the sde for 1.8?
G Torq ALTA B2O 528	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:27:00 - [76] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: Can you release the sde for 1.8? Was already released Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2014.03.26 04:28:00 - [77] - Quote Thank you, I looked on the Wiki and didn't find an update that's why I asked. I noticed you have a rest api, that will be helpful because all i wanted to do was query all the suits and put them in a spreadsheet to review them. I'll use that api if it works. Thanks and great work on the site
G Torq ALTA B2O 529	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:45:00 - [78] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: Thank you, I looked on the Wiki and didn't find an update that's why I asked. I noticed you have a rest api, that will be helpful because all i wanted to do was query all the suits and put them in a spreadsheet to review them. I'll use that api if it works. Thanks and great work on the site The API on my site sorta works, but is not 100% converted to use the SDE (was written before there was an SDE). if you just need data for a spreadsheet, I can suggest to look at the item-compare function on my site :) Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE


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