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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
399
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:36:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote: You don't play EVE, do you?
In EVE, there is this thing in Hi-Sec called CONCORD, killed you if you attacked people. (Unless it was a legal war.) We don't have that, as Public matches are Hi-Sec. So, I propose CONCORD making proto in Pubs illegal. You can't use it. Period.
thats funny i was a proud ninja salvager. my job was to grief the **** out of high sec carebears by stealing, and blowing up their ships. theres LOADS of ways to kill people in high sec without concord getting involved that isnt a legal war :P
ive killed and attacked many in high sec without concord intervention, and without first declairing war.
im guessing your a high sec carebear, give me your character name and ill forward it to the tears alliance (if they are still around??) so that you can see exactly what i mean. make sure to take all the shiney **** off your mission boat before hand though :P
not only that but theres no paralell between the two situations, it would be like outlawing T2 in high sec and resticting it to low sec and 0.0
buck up and learn to kill proto suits using basic gear like i do. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:42:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote: You don't play EVE, do you?
In EVE, there is this thing in Hi-Sec called CONCORD, killed you if you attacked people. (Unless it was a legal war.) We don't have that, as Public matches are Hi-Sec. So, I propose CONCORD making proto in Pubs illegal. You can't use it. Period.
thats funny i was a proud ninja salvager. my job was to grief the **** out of high sec carebears by stealing, and blowing up their ships. theres LOADS of ways to kill people in high sec without concord getting involved that isnt a legal war :P ive killed and attacked many in high sec without concord intervention, and without first declairing war. im guessing your a high sec carebear, give me your character name and ill forward it to the tears alliance (if they are still around??) so that you can see exactly what i mean. make sure to take all the shiney **** off your mission boat before hand though :P not only that but theres no paralell between the two situations, it would be like outlawing T2 in high sec and resticting it to low sec and 0.0 buck up and learn to kill proto suits using basic gear like i do. ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
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dogmanpig
black market bank
74
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:42:00 -
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oh do me for counter griefing! do me!
You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way.
Level 7 1/3 Forum alt.
"Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
667
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:47:00 -
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I'm tempted to put down Noein Blankets...but I don't want him to rage-quit Dust :<. He doesn't Proto-Stomp but he'll kick your ass and make you wish he was Proto-Stomping so you could blame it on that.
:D I Militia-Stomp. There's something. A lot of players get pissed when their 1000 eHP suit is kicked in the nuts by my Militia fit.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
400
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:48:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote: ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
theres loads of ways, but yes most of them involve tricking the enemy into marking themselves as a criminal.
it ALL involves careful planning and a good understanding of the aggro mechanics... also you can outrun concord BTW or at least you could at one point in time. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:51:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote: ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
theres loads of ways, but yes most of them involve tricking the enemy into marking themselves as a criminal. it ALL involves careful planning and a good understanding of the aggro mechanics... also you can outrun concord BTW or at least you could at one point in time. Never tried ganking, so I don't know....
Still, you gave me something to think about. Perhaps I'll try this... on a cheap ship.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
803
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:53:00 -
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Lol, add your name to the list and while your at it try and identify everybody's TK alts.
I would take you up on your offer but I don't care what side I'm on. Some men just want to watch the world burn!
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
404
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:53:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote: ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
theres loads of ways, but yes most of them involve tricking the enemy into marking themselves as a criminal. it ALL involves careful planning and a good understanding of the aggro mechanics... also you can outrun concord BTW or at least you could at one point in time. Never tried ganking, so I don't know.... Still, you gave me something to think about. Perhaps I'll try this... on a cheap ship.
the best results always came from things i diddnt have the ability to do.
but its quite easy to trick people into flagging themselves, just set the right bait or steal from the right people.
if you steal from them and thye shoot at you, your free to shoot them back :P
go ninja salvaging in a quick and small salvage frigate then once they shoot swap ships and go nuke them with your pvp ship :P
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:55:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote: ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
theres loads of ways, but yes most of them involve tricking the enemy into marking themselves as a criminal. it ALL involves careful planning and a good understanding of the aggro mechanics... also you can outrun concord BTW or at least you could at one point in time. Never tried ganking, so I don't know.... Still, you gave me something to think about. Perhaps I'll try this... on a cheap ship. the best results always came from things i diddnt have the ability to do. but its quite easy to trick people into flagging themselves, just set the right bait or steal from the right people. if you steal from them and thye shoot at you, your free to shoot them back :P go ninja salvaging in a quick and small salvage frigate then once they shoot swap ships and go nuke them with your pvp ship :P Hey, thanks. I will definitely try this. I always wanted to be a pirate, anyways.
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution
185
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:59:00 -
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is johns '3rd party software' a taco?
(>^_^)><(^.^<)
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
406
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:01:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote: ....I've actually been trying to find a FW corp to take me, I'm a PvPer... or will be when I find one.
You've gotta explain to me how you attacked someone without CONCORD intervention... unless you drew them in with an "easy score", making them a criminal first....
If you wanna know, I'm Luna Pryde. Not afraid of anyone, although I just started....
I read a lot of stuff, never once did I see mention of Hi-Sec letting you attack. I saw that you could defend yourself, though, or attack criminals.
EDIT: I DO kill Proto with my Basic and ADV gear, this is for the newcomers.
theres loads of ways, but yes most of them involve tricking the enemy into marking themselves as a criminal. it ALL involves careful planning and a good understanding of the aggro mechanics... also you can outrun concord BTW or at least you could at one point in time. Never tried ganking, so I don't know.... Still, you gave me something to think about. Perhaps I'll try this... on a cheap ship. the best results always came from things i diddnt have the ability to do. but its quite easy to trick people into flagging themselves, just set the right bait or steal from the right people. if you steal from them and thye shoot at you, your free to shoot them back :P go ninja salvaging in a quick and small salvage frigate then once they shoot swap ships and go nuke them with your pvp ship :P Hey, thanks. I will definitely try this. I always wanted to be a pirate, anyways.
google up some old stuff about ninja salvaging and the tears alliance :P
theres a few blogs from about 2 years ago when it got very popular that give LOADS of informationa nd examples of mechanics abuse to get started doing your shady buisness out in space.
i once pissed off a corp of about 20 or so russians.... they war deced my 4 man corp and before i knew it... that corp grew to about 100 members prepairing to grief the living crap out of some russian carebears.... that war was canceled pretty damn fast. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:04:00 -
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lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
406
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:05:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why.
ALWAYS log on for patch day, then report the bugs you find.
it helps. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:06:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why. ALWAYS log on for patch day, then report the bugs you find. it helps. I crash. Every time. I got Mass Effect 2 to keep me company, though.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
410
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:11:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why. ALWAYS log on for patch day, then report the bugs you find. it helps. I crash. Every time. I got Mass Effect 2 to keep me company, though. EDIT: Just realized we went from arguing to talking EVE pirate tactics....
im awesome that way :P
either that or its just another symptom of my insanity.
or both. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
392
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:13:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why. ALWAYS log on for patch day, then report the bugs you find. it helps. I crash. Every time. I got Mass Effect 2 to keep me company, though. EDIT: Just realized we went from arguing to talking EVE pirate tactics.... im awesome that way :P either that or its just another symptom of my insanity. or both. Or perhaps it's the fact that you intrigued me with your piratical ways. I'm directly descended from a pirate of the Golden Age. I find them fascinating.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
410
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:16:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:lol I can't wait for tomorrow now. Or probably Wednesday, I never log on on Patch Day, as I'm sure you know why. ALWAYS log on for patch day, then report the bugs you find. it helps. I crash. Every time. I got Mass Effect 2 to keep me company, though. EDIT: Just realized we went from arguing to talking EVE pirate tactics.... im awesome that way :P either that or its just another symptom of my insanity. or both. Or perhaps it's the fact that you intrigued me with your piratical ways. I'm directly descended from a pirate of the Golden Age. I find them fascinating.
embrace that wonderful heritage :P
i wasnt a true pirate in EvE, wasnt good enough in PvP :P
this game however, i can see myself setting up as a griefer for hire :P |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
392
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:18:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote: embrace that wonderful heritage :P
i wasnt a true pirate in EvE, wasnt good enough in PvP :P
this game however, i can see myself setting up as a griefer for hire :P
A pirate is one who attacks other for sport and profit, rather than war or for an empire. You qualify.
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
654
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:43:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:kewl, i guess your a target marx. I'm bringing a full proto TK squad to grief since scrubs hate nyain, prepare to be raped at least 12 times in a match.
The limit is 4 rapes, not 12. Then you get a ban until next downtime. It's all in the patch notes.
5000 damage (with or without killing players) will also get you a ban until next downtime.
And in both cases you will lose faction points, which lowers your LP payout. LP payout is the reason you are playing FW. You know, to get the stuff.
The people playing while you are banned will be racing ahead in LP. And, you know, getting the stuff.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
395
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:46:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:kewl, i guess your a target marx. I'm bringing a full proto TK squad to grief since scrubs hate nyain, prepare to be raped at least 12 times in a match. The limit is 4 rapes, not 12. Then you get a ban until next downtime. It's all in the patch notes. 5000 damage (with or without killing players) will also get you a ban until next downtime. And in both cases you will lose faction points, which lowers your LP payout. LP payout is the reason you are playing FW. You know, to get the stuff. Munch He didn't say HE'D do the raping, but that the other would be raped.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
321
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:47:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:kewl, i guess your a target marx. I'm bringing a full proto TK squad to grief since scrubs hate nyain, prepare to be raped at least 12 times in a match. The limit is 4 rapes, not 12. Then you get a ban until next downtime. It's all in the patch notes. 5000 damage (with or without killing players) will also get you a ban until next downtime. And in both cases you will lose faction points, which lowers your LP payout. LP payout is the reason you are playing FW. You know, to get the stuff. The people playing while you are banned will be racing ahead in LP. And, you know, getting the stuff. Munch And thats why, either grief the opposite team on your main, or make an alt, skill into Adv rails, and destroy every blue you come across. Or just take your alt character and stand on nades.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I haz knife. Me get steak?
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
291
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:51:00 -
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Hm, surprised Bethhy got labled an exploiter before I did
also the absence of my name on this list, I've committed all of the aforementioned sins quite frequently
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WOOOAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
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Agent Monroe
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:02:00 -
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
654
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:31:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Poonmunch wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:kewl, i guess your a target marx. I'm bringing a full proto TK squad to grief since scrubs hate nyain, prepare to be raped at least 12 times in a match. The limit is 4 rapes, not 12. Then you get a ban until next downtime. It's all in the patch notes. 5000 damage (with or without killing players) will also get you a ban until next downtime. And in both cases you will lose faction points, which lowers your LP payout. LP payout is the reason you are playing FW. You know, to get the stuff. The people playing while you are banned will be racing ahead in LP. And, you know, getting the stuff. Munch And thats why, either grief the opposite team on your main, or make an alt, skill into Adv rails, and destroy every blue you come across. Or just take your alt character and stand on nades.
Well, we'll see what happens after the first week of killing off your own team.
The novelty will either wear off or you'll have a main battle and two separate mini revenge battles going on. Then the team that loses the most of it's own players will start the game with a disadvantage and likely go on to lose.
Would you rather have a decent sniper who goes 10-0 or 15-2 or fight with one less guy for the whole game?
If you grief me, I'm going for a stroll in my militia fits. I'll follow you around, stand in your way and be a general millstone around your neck. I don't care if I die 30 times. I'll lose no ISK, no expensive suits and no LP. In fact I'll still gain LP. And your game will suck because I'll be there creating an endless problem for you. And I'll be laughing my face off burning clone after clone.
Until you kill me 4 times. Then you'll get banned and I can go back to playing the game my way.
Or I might just make an ALT myself. It'll be a dedicated militia griefer with no purpose other than to find TKers and harass them. It strikes me that this would be a role ideally suited to the scout (good foresight there CCP). This could be a whole new meta-game.
I wonder what skills would be best for a militia anti-TK griefer? I'll need to be fast to find you but that's about it. I don't even need a weapon or electronic mods.
Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
605
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:43:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:You don't play EVE, do you?
In EVE, there is this thing in Hi-Sec called CONCORD, killed you if you attacked people. (Unless it was a legal war.) We don't have that, as Public matches are Hi-Sec. So, I propose CONCORD making proto in Pubs illegal. You can't use it. Period.
CONCORD does not intervene if a T2 ship attacks a T1 ship, they intervene because of the aggression.
I'm not a fan of proto-bears, but if that's what they need to feel good, so be it. I'm more than happy to deprive them of their suits with ADV gear in pubs.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1196
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:55:00 -
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Sgt Kirk is handing out ISK when I teamkill in a match he's in. So his ISK vs. your Griefing points? I think he has the better arguments. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
396
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:59:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:You don't play EVE, do you?
In EVE, there is this thing in Hi-Sec called CONCORD, killed you if you attacked people. (Unless it was a legal war.) We don't have that, as Public matches are Hi-Sec. So, I propose CONCORD making proto in Pubs illegal. You can't use it. Period. CONCORD does not intervene if a T2 ship attacks a T1 ship, they intervene because of the aggression. I'm not a fan of proto-bears, but if that's what they need to feel good, so be it. I'm more than happy to deprive them of their suits with ADV gear in pubs. I oversimplified. I know all this, I play EVE. I was trying to get a lore reason for it to be illegal.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
900
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:34:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Post the players in game name, Corp and reason why they should be added to the list and after review there name shall be added and anyone who's interested in griefing those who deserve retribution shall have a target to look out for !
- xxwhitedevilxx M - Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn - Protostomping in Pubgames - mnl-ita 3 - Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn - Protostomping in Pubgames - pagl1u M - Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn - Protostomping in Public games - Patrick57 - Fatal Absolution - Protostomping in Pubgames - Funkmaster Whale - Fatal Absolution - Protostomping in Pubgames - Bethhy - Ancient Exiles - Protostomping in Pubgames, Locking PC Districts, Exploits - Kira Lannister - Ancient Exiles - Protostomping in Pubgames - Rei Shepard - The Rainbow Effect - Protostomping in Pubgames - KingBabar - The Rainbow Effect - Protostomping in Pubgames - Sgt Kirk - SyNergy Gaming - Protostomping in Pubgames - Viktor Hadah Jr - Outer.Heaven - Protostomping in Pubgames - Cenex Langly - Outer.Heaven - Protostomping in Pubgames - Keri Starlight - Outer.Heaven - Protostomping in Pubgames - General John Ripper - Pradox One - Protostomping in Pubgames, Using 3rd party software to gain an advantage - Lurchasaurus - SVER True Blood - Protostomping in Pubgames - Calisk Galern - BurgezzE.T.F - Protostomping in Pubgames - BATTOUSAI THE MANSLAYER - Robbing The Hood - Protostomping in Pubgames - HC RSOL - Robbing The Hood - Officer Stomping in Pubgames - Mirataf - WARRIORS INC - Officer stomping in Pubgames - ICECREAMK1NG - WARRIORS INC - Officer Stomping in Pubgames - Paran Tadec - Imperfect Bast*rds - Protostomping in Pubgames - THEAMAZING POTHEAD - Nyain San - Protostomping in Pubgames
This is just a start and alot more will be added
For the time being until the list is finished just grief anyone in these corps -
Maphia Clan Corporation Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn Ancient Exiles Outer.Heaven Pradox One Robbing The Hood WARRIORS INC The Rainbow Effect SyNergy Gaming Nyain San
Post Videos and screenshots of your griefing exploits below and you will be given Griefer Points +50 For a TK +75 For a TK and you don't get kicked from FW +50 For being Team Killed by one of the players above +150 If you get them kicked from FW +125 For blowing up a Vehicle
Or just share tales about how you have been griefing people
@Karl Marx II, quality of your posts has never been too great and often you have tried to instigate fear and rumors basing on little fact. However, this time you've really crossed the line.
Namedropping on forums is bad behavior as it is, so is accusing publicly on exploits (remember you should send support ticket for those). And instigating hatred and trying to target specific people for griefing is way beyond meta gameplay. Post reported.
PS: Probably you'll try to belittle what I said on basis of my corp ticker but that doesn't matter.
Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance?
The fix:
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Freshticles
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:36:00 -
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I think drop ships have earned a faithful reward, and TKers shall not attack them. In return we shall transport you to where the griefing is the fiercest.
Level 9001 Forum Wizard
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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
475
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:41:00 -
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my corp is at the top of the list I won something?
> Test Signature Please Ignore
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