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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

calvin b wrote:

I agree about diversity and not able to put proto across the board. So let me give you an example. I want to use a run and gun fit and I am using a Proto Gal Assault for example.

High side I put 2 Complex damage mods/1 Complex shield extender

Low side I put 2 basic armor plate 1 Complex Kin and 1 Complex Cardio

Weapon: Main Duvolle side arm: Toxin SMg

Grenade( cannot fit due to lack of power)

Equipment: Maybe a compact nanohive if I have the power.

This is a speed fit for me, maybe not for everyone. You can fiddle with this all you want but you still come out short somewhere and you have to choose.

I am not brick tanking this fit and I am choosing speed over survivability but I am still coming up short. If I was using a Gal Logi I would have no problem building this fit and would be able to fit a grenade and decent equipment.

Dude i see the problem here.... thats a f'kin awful fit for a gallente. no wonder you're not surviving Big smile

ditch the shield extender cos its utterly pointless and just put in an extra damage mod.
ditch the kincat and cardiac cos they're pointless too
just go basic kill fit.
3 complex damage mods
2 complex armor plates
2 complex armor reppers

duvolle
Toxin
lucus nade

whatever fits in equipment slot!

the plates/reppers you have to tweak a bit. on the adv basic frame i have 2 enhanced plates and a complex repper gives me 150 shields, 570 armor and 6.25hps rep (roughly)
you may need to fit 3 enhanced plates and complex repper and that should still keep you light on your toes as well as freeing up cpu/pg for better equipment whiel still giving great rep and it has a rather good survivability... hell even i can go positive kdr with it Big smile

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calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1105	Posted - 2013.12.07 11:41:00 - [61] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: calvin b wrote: I have tried and still cannot come up with a proper build without sacrificing something. We all know this and we know what the problem is, we need more POWER. All assault players need at least this much more Basic 25 CPU 10 PG Advance 75 CPU 50PG Proto 100 CPU 75 PG If an assault is going to be self efficient, we need the extra power to fit hives, scanners, and not have to sacrifice our weapon or our survivability. If you say add a CPU or PG module then WTF, I only have so many slots. If you agree please post and if you do not please give a good counter statement. They made PG and CPU upgrade modules for that purpose....other then that, learn to work with what you have... This is what is wrong, everyone points to CPU and PG modules. Well the problem is as an Armor class as a Gal Assault you have very limited low slots. You need those slots for armor and armor rep modules. So having only three low slots what do you sacrifice, so your suit can do what it was meant to do. An assault is supposed to be front lines and supposed to be able to hold there own. If you read what a logi is, it clearly states its supposed to be a support role. I need just like all assaults do and that is an increase in CPU and PG to make our suits more viable. If the answer you are proposing is CPU and PG modules, it will not work. I will give you an example. 2 High slots can be used for Damage mod or Shield extender or energizers 3 Low Slots now can be used for armor plates( 3 different variations) armor rep module, Kincats, Cardio, PG module, CPU module, Shield module So you see the low side carriers what is the most important to almost all classes. This is why if you dedicate one or even two slots to increase your power you have weaken your suit and you have no room to improve your speed or your strength. This is the problem you have, what to sacrifice and how to make your suit viable. Its a terrible choice to have to make. F* the Snowflake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKd3cdKdak
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1105	Posted - 2013.12.07 11:43:00 - [62] - Quote 8213 wrote: Truth be told WTF is an Assault build? It's just a medium frame with shield bonuses. That's CCP's fault for giving us such terrible Racial bonuses. F* the Snowflake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKd3cdKdak
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1105	Posted - 2013.12.07 11:52:00 - [63] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: calvin b wrote: I agree about diversity and not able to put proto across the board. So let me give you an example. I want to use a run and gun fit and I am using a Proto Gal Assault for example. High side I put 2 Complex damage mods/1 Complex shield extender Low side I put 2 basic armor plate 1 Complex Kin and 1 Complex Cardio Weapon: Main Duvolle side arm: Toxin SMg Grenade( cannot fit due to lack of power) Equipment: Maybe a compact nanohive if I have the power. This is a speed fit for me, maybe not for everyone. You can fiddle with this all you want but you still come out short somewhere and you have to choose. I am not brick tanking this fit and I am choosing speed over survivability but I am still coming up short. If I was using a Gal Logi I would have no problem building this fit and would be able to fit a grenade and decent equipment. Dude i see the problem here.... thats a f'kin awful fit for a gallente. no wonder you're not surviving ditch the shield extender cos its utterly pointless and just put in an extra damage mod. ditch the kincat and cardiac cos they're pointless too just go basic kill fit. 3 complex damage mods 2 complex armor plates 2 complex armor reppers duvolle Toxin lucus nade whatever fits in equipment slot! the plates/reppers you have to tweak a bit. on the adv basic frame i have 2 enhanced plates and a complex repper gives me 150 shields, 570 armor and 6.25hps rep (roughly) you may need to fit 3 enhanced plates and complex repper and that should still keep you light on your toes as well as freeing up cpu/pg for better equipment whiel still giving great rep and it has a rather good survivability... hell even i can go positive kdr with it Trust me I have built the same suit you spoke of along with every possible build imaginable. I have been working like a mad scientist to find the right mix and it is impossible. If you go tank you lose speed, if you use armor Ferroscale or reactive plate you gain speed but lose a lot of CPU and PG. Now you also have to choose if you are going to use armor rep module and it uses 45/11 for complex. You see by the time you put together a great tank suit, you are left with very little to spread between your main weapon, your side arm, grenade slot, and equipment. So there is the dilemma what to leave off and what can you live without. F* the Snowflake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKd3cdKdak
m621 zma OMFGZOMBIESRUN 63	Posted - 2013.12.07 12:08:00 - [64] - Quote Meh... Don't really care if we get more or if it stays the same.
N7 Operative Anthony warravens League of Infamy 8	Posted - 2013.12.07 13:19:00 - [65] - Quote Caldari Assault can use a CPU/PG buff. Here's my proto fit... 2 Complex shield extenders 2 Complex damage modifiers 1 Enhanced Armor module 1 Complex Armor repairer 1 Enhanced CPU extension module Duvolle Core Flaylock M1 grenades Shield count: 422 Armor count: 271 Shield and Armor skills maxed out Shield Extenders need a slight HP buff too
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 555	Posted - 2013.12.07 14:28:00 - [66] - Quote My assault suits are fine for power, even with decent equipment and a good sidearm. In fact the only crappy thing on my suits is grenades cus I don't use them much and a standard flux is enough for me. As I see it, PG is the defining limiting factor for all vehicles and suits in the game. Its purpose is to make it so you can't have absolutely everything you want. I also believe its to encourage us to specialise our suits "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"


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