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Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1225	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:38:00 - [1] - Quote Is the Blaster variant of the Sniper Rifle. So all we need is the Precision Rifle and some bastardized Pulse Laser sniper variant for the Amarr and we've got racial parity in Sniper Rifles too! Anyone else have any other ideas regarding racial parity in weapons? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1129	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Is the Blaster variant of the Sniper Rifle. So all we need is the Precision Rifle and some bastardized Pulse Laser sniper variant for the Amarr and we've got racial parity in Sniper Rifles too! Anyone else have any other ideas regarding racial parity in weapons? If it was a sniper rifle, it would be more effective at long range than it is at close. I suspect you are trolling, but I'm pretty sure the Plasma Cannon isn't the Gallente Sniper Rifle. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1225	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:51:00 - [3] - Quote Not trolling at all, blasters are short range, high damage wepons. Plasma Cannon == Blaster Sniper Rifle Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1435	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:52:00 - [4] - Quote this gun was funny. I was in a match yesterday it was like 4 protobear squads going at it, and in the middle of this blood bath of a war, you see this lone standard plasma cannon guy trying to get his shot in, I don't know if he ever landed one, but he seemed so out of place in that epic scene of a battle.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 392	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:56:00 - [5] - Quote It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1129	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Not trolling at all, blasters are short range, high damage wepons. Plasma Cannon == Blaster Sniper Rifle I'm going to have to disagree. I doubt the Plasma Cannon was designed as a Sniper Rifle Variant. Why would they make it like that when we know they are capable of making Blaster rounds travel long distance? Sniper Rifles are by their very nature long range weapons, the Plasma Cannon is pretty unwieldy an any range further than 75m. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 613	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:59:00 - [7] - Quote My longest kill with the Plasma Cannon was 298.9m. But that's super rare. Most are going to be under 100m. So yeah..... meh The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1130	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:02:00 - [8] - Quote Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. ** you. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]** Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 613	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:04:00 - [9] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1130	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. ** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. I concur. OHKing Protobears with a Starter fit is enjoyable. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]** Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 613	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:09:00 - [11] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. I concur. OHKing Protobears with a Starter fit is enjoyable. Well, I must admit I run proto too. So maybe you are getting a little more enjoyment than I am... lol What can I say. I'm rich beeeeeotch!!! The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1225	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:20:00 - [12] - Quote Ok, so I didn't say that it was intended, just that it seems very plausible to me. Might be a cop-out too if they did repurpose it though, I still think it would be hilarious. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 392	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:28:00 - [13] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot.... we should just get rid of skill points.(sniper's being the exception) A STD logi should die in one grenade... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly...
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1435	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:30:00 - [14] - Quote honestly if the two new rifles weren't coming out I'd probably have speced into this. I can see a couple of scenarios where i could make use of this gun.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 613	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:31:00 - [15] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot(skilled sniper shot's being the exception).... we should just get rid of skill points. A STD logi should die in one grenade... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly... I totally agree with you EXCEPT for in the case of the PLC. That thing is damn hard to use and if I hit you dead on, you deserve to die. The nades and forges are a totally different story though. If I could PLC someone from across the map routinely I would say it was a problem. But I am a CQC PLC user so odds are you'll kill me unless I get the drop first. That is the trade off for the OHK I guess. None of the noob tubes have a trade off. So there is that. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 393	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:38:00 - [16] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Bethhy wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. ** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot(skilled sniper shot's being the exception).... we should just get rid of skill points. A STD logi should die in one grenade... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly... I totally agree with you EXCEPT for in the case of the PLC. That thing is damn hard to use and if I hit you dead on, you deserve to die. The nades and forges are a totally different story though. If I could PLC someone from across the map routinely I would say it was a problem. But I am a CQC PLC user so odds are you'll kill me unless I get the drop first. That is the trade off for the OHK I guess. None of the noob tubes have a trade off. So there is that. Oh yea that's why having the high TTK DUST HAD**, was enjoyable because it took two grenades and two forge gun shots etc... to drop a STD suit that was fitted well. And when there was Whispers Of kill Assist's meaning something more then Point's... AKA Logi's and Support Heavies would get the Credit that has been Due them for a long time... We thought we would have this AOE Plasma cannon you could be like "Pfft We need you johnny there is a group of red's over there you fire and then we will send in the CQC to finish them off." Instead we got another F.U. from CCP and people like it because it makes them giggle. Which IS almost enough of a point to negate the entire TTk argument... I give them that.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1131	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:38:00 - [17] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. ** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot(skilled sniper shot's being the exception).... we should just get rid of skill points. A STD logi shouldn't die in one grenade, one forge gun, one PLC shot...... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly... Even worse it Ruins the teamwork this game was designed for .... Where everyone isn't individual slayers. they ahve roles and job's and you need more then one person to kill someone. The Plasma Cannon is a single fire dumb fire weapon with a 6 second reload. It should ALWAYS be a OHKO. You are the first person I've ever seen cry about getting killed by a cannon... ever. That's sad. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]** Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 615	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:42:00 - [18] - Quote @ Bethhy It would be pretty sweet if there was a higher tiered AOE version of the PLC with a massive splash radius but low damage. Working in tandem with a masshole would be aaaaamazing. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 394	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:48:00 - [19] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bethhy wrote: It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track *Kill Assist's* as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot(skilled sniper shot's being the exception).... we should just get rid of skill points. A STD logi shouldn't die in one grenade, one forge gun, one PLC shot...... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly... Even worse it Ruins the teamwork this game was designed for .... Where everyone isn't individual slayers. they ahve roles and job's and you need more then one person to kill someone. The Plasma Cannon is a single fire dumb fire weapon with a 6 second reload. It should ALWAYS be a OHKO. You are the first person I've ever seen cry about getting killed by a cannon... ever. That's sad. Yes because I'm crying about dieing to a PLC... some people just cant help themselfs? ahahaha... This OHKO weapon trend is a systemic problem in DUST and has been the root to the TTK issues and opinions around it. PLC sure is a very small factor compared to grenades? regardless OHKO weapon's are a massive problem if we want Health point's on suit's to mean anything...
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 616	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:50:00 - [20] - Quote Fizzer, she's got a point. You can be butthurt and right at the same time you know. lolol (Sorry Bethhy, just kidding really.) The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 334	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:55:00 - [21] - Quote Sniper Rifles are specialty weapons made by the Caldari for long range. Their rough Gallente counterpart is the Shotgun. Amarr: Laser Rifle. Minmatar: Mass Driver. That's just the way I see it, I could be wrong, but it makes sense, given the current data. Names of playstyles
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 617	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Sniper Rifles are specialty weapons made by the Caldari for long range. Their rough Gallente counterpart is the Shotgun. Amarr: Laser Rifle. Minmatar: Mass Driver. That's just the way I see it, I could be wrong, but it makes sense, given the current data. In what world is the Shotgun the Gallente equivalent to the Sniper Rifle? I mean, I know the Gal are more CQC but that just sounds craaaaaaazy. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 334	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:01:00 - [23] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Sniper Rifles are specialty weapons made by the Caldari for long range. Their rough Gallente counterpart is the Shotgun. Amarr: Laser Rifle. Minmatar: Mass Driver. That's just the way I see it, I could be wrong, but it makes sense, given the current data. In what world is the Shotgun the Gallente equivalent to the Sniper Rifle? I mean, I know the Gal are more CQC but that just sounds craaaaaaazy. Caldari: Long range. Sniper rifle: Long range, massive damage. Gallente: CQC. Shotgun: MAssive damage, CQC. Both weapons take into account the races' strengths and weaknesses and are specialized for them. Names of playstyles
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 334	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote EDIT; Double post. Names of playstyles
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 617	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:04:00 - [25] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: EDIT; Double post. Are Amarr long or close range? Or duel? Does that make the scrambler pistol just as fair an option as the laser for the Amarr sniper? The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 334	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:08:00 - [26] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: EDIT; Double post. Are Amarr long or close range? Or duel? Does that make the scrambler pistol just as fair an option as the laser for the Amarr sniper? Amarr are mid-to-long range, so, yes, those pistols are fine, I chose lasers because of the damage increase every sec. And, of course, Mass Drivers are self-explanatory. Names of playstyles
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 107	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:32:00 - [27] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Is the Blaster variant of the Sniper Rifle. So all we need is the Precision Rifle and some bastardized Pulse Laser sniper variant for the Amarr and we've got racial parity in Sniper Rifles too! Anyone else have any other ideas regarding racial parity in weapons? If it was a sniper rifle, it would be more effective at long range than it is at close. I suspect you are trolling, but I'm pretty sure the Plasma Cannon isn't the Gallente Sniper Rifle. Ehhh ive gotten some pretty long range kills with my favorite cannon here XD he may have a point... Dedicated scout. Player bodyguard Pistol supremacy.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 359	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:41:00 - [28] - Quote its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1225	Posted - 2013.12.06 21:56:00 - [29] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Is the Blaster variant of the Sniper Rifle. So all we need is the Precision Rifle and some bastardized Pulse Laser sniper variant for the Amarr and we've got racial parity in Sniper Rifles too! Anyone else have any other ideas regarding racial parity in weapons? If it was a sniper rifle, it would be more effective at long range than it is at close. I suspect you are trolling, but I'm pretty sure the Plasma Cannon isn't the Gallente Sniper Rifle. Ehhh ive gotten some pretty long range kills with my favorite cannon here XD he may have a point... See! Proof!! Plasma Cannon == Blaster Sniper Rifle Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 57	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:02:00 - [30] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Is the Blaster variant of the Sniper Rifle. So all we need is the Precision Rifle and some bastardized Pulse Laser sniper variant for the Amarr and we've got racial parity in Sniper Rifles too! Anyone else have any other ideas regarding racial parity in weapons? If it was a sniper rifle, it would be more effective at long range than it is at close. I suspect you are trolling, but I'm pretty sure the Plasma Cannon isn't the Gallente Sniper Rifle. kills at 168m in one hit, its stronger than the charge sniper

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:04:00 - [31] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:10:00 - [32] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS as thats the catagory of weapon its in design wise. reguardless of what its good at or used for, its a plasma RPG, designed as a plasma RPG, and was designed as part of the AV catagory.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:12:00 - [33] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:16:00 - [34] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against infantry doesn't make it an AI weapon. An forge gun can blow up infatry. Does that make it an AI weapon? it was (poorly) designed as an AV weapon, as part of the light AV catagory. reguardless of how its used thats where (on the design chart) it sits.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1228	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:16:00 - [35] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Yeah, I've actually blown up an HAV with my Toxin SMG. No Lie, logis honor (granted, it was already burning, but I got the +150 for the kill) Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:18:00 - [36] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Yeah, I've actually blown up an HAV with my Toxin SMG. No Lie, logis honor (granted, it was already burning, but I got the +150 for the kill) a poor sica desided to try to attack my 6 man squad once and non of us had AV, so we blew it up with ARs and SMGs (no lie)
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 277	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:21:00 - [37] - Quote calisk galern wrote: this gun was funny. I was in a match yesterday it was like 4 protobear squads going at it, and in the middle of this blood bath of a war, you see this lone standard plasma cannon guy trying to get his shot in, I don't know if he ever landed one, but he seemed so out of place in that epic scene of a battle. Sometimes I get lucky against protos and land a shot. Don't really go positive with the Cannon, but is pretty fun. If the user was using the Militia Caldari Recruit Suit, that was me.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1228	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:24:00 - [38] - Quote @Ghosts Chance Yeah, I was just looking to farm some assist points and I ended up with the kill. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:26:00 - [39] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against infantry doesn't make it an AI weapon. An forge gun can blow up infatry. Does that make it an AI weapon? it was (poorly) designed as an AV weapon, as part of the light AV catagory. reguardless of how its used thats where (on the design chart) it sits. The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11107	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:27:00 - [40] - Quote Since its introduction I have managed to kill 4 LAVs (OHKs) with this thing, 0 Dropships, 0 HAVs. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Infantry Armoring =// Unlocked

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:28:00 - [41] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. (for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon.)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1228	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 - [42] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Since its introduction I have managed to kill 4 LAVs (OHKs) with this thing, 0 Dropships, 0 HAVs. So, Mr CPM, what are your thoughts on my speculation? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 - [43] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 - [44] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon. you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:33:00 - [45] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon. you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen I believe that is against shields, not vehicles in general. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:36:00 - [46] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed. AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon. you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen I believe that is against shields, not vehicles in general. the same weapon will have different efficiancy ratings against infantry then it does against vehicles and instalations. aka an SMG will have different readouts depending on what your shooting at, its efficiancy against vehicles is greatly deminished compaired to infantry. note that this is SEPERATE from shield/armor efficiancy even though its the same stat and readout. point your AR at an instalation or tank and you will see the difference in damage efficiancy % compaired to infantry. AV weapons dont have this difference and do their full damage to vehicles unlink AI designed weapons wich do. i suggest you load up a game and point your SMG and plasma cannon at different targets to see what i mean.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:44:00 - [47] - Quote Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 361	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:55:00 - [48] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:00:00 - [49] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. Do I even have to say it? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Swarm Launcher. lol Alright, I've already conceded the fact that you are right so no need to argue anymore. Sorry for the MAJOR derail OP. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1228	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:02:00 - [50] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. Plasma Cannon, the shortest range, highest damage per shot, antimaterial, blaster category, sniper rifle!!!! EDIT: What derail roofer? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:05:00 - [51] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. Plasma Cannon, the shortest range, highest damage per shot, antimaterial, blaster category, sniper rifle!!!! EDIT: What derail roofer? We quit talking about sniper rifles a long time ago.... lol The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:09:00 - [52] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. as one of the only AV weapons that ddiddnt get reduced damage for 1.7 im kinda interested to see its eventual rise in popularity, it may not be the strongest, but it is one of the funnyest. It does win the funny award. I have to go to push to talk when I use it due to excessive giggling. The only thing that could be funnier are the eventual PLC is OP threads... The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1228	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:11:00 - [53] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. Plasma Cannon, the shortest range, highest damage per shot, antimaterial, blaster category, sniper rifle!!!! EDIT: What derail roofer? We quit talking about sniper rifles a long time ago.... lol Meh, it is more about the Plasma Cannon anyway, I still think it is a good analogue. A very good argument has been made for it being the Gallente Blaster Sniper Rifle. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 361	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:15:00 - [54] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. as one of the only AV weapons that ddiddnt get reduced damage for 1.7 im kinda interested to see its eventual rise in popularity, it may not be the strongest, but it is one of the funnyest. It does win the funny award. I have to go to push to talk when I use it due to excessive giggling. The only thing that could be funnier are the eventual PLC is OP threads... the PLC is definatly the best AV weapon outside of av granades for inside of cities where forge guns are too slow and swarms hit things before they reach the target. i expect that to get much more evident once 1.7 hits. im cheering you guys on like nobody else :P i dont use it personally (minmatar purist) but i love the thing.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1235	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:10:00 - [55] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected. Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit. edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. as one of the only AV weapons that ddiddnt get reduced damage for 1.7 im kinda interested to see its eventual rise in popularity, it may not be the strongest, but it is one of the funnyest. It does win the funny award. I have to go to push to talk when I use it due to excessive giggling. The only thing that could be funnier are the eventual PLC is OP threads... the PLC is definatly the best AV weapon outside of av granades for inside of cities where forge guns are too slow and swarms hit things before they reach the target. i expect that to get much more evident once 1.7 hits. im cheering you guys on like nobody else :P i dont use it personally (minmatar purist) but i love the thing. I know that I always chuckle when I see it in the kill feed. Plasma Cannon, the only really viable sniper rifle for ground sniping. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1318	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:33:00 - [56] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its the galante swarm launcher actually weapons are designed in wierd tiers you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art) the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? I always thought of it as the Gallente equivalent to the swarm launcher. The impression i got was CCP intended it as an AV weapon The ability to use it against infantry was there to balance the fact that it's not a lock-on weapon. Plus both swarms and PCs are anti-material weapons also. I support SP rollover.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11108	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:27:00 - [57] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Since its introduction I have managed to kill 4 LAVs (OHKs) with this thing, 0 Dropships, 0 HAVs. So, Mr CPM, what are your thoughts on my speculation? I am in disagreement, I convey it is akin to the gallente version of the mass driver. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Infantry Armoring =// Unlocked


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