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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:59:00 -
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My longest kill with the Plasma Cannon was 298.9m. But that's super rare. Most are going to be under 100m. So yeah..... meh
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:04:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Bethhy wrote:It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track Kill Assist's as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you.
Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:09:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Bethhy wrote:It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track Kill Assist's as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. I concur. OHKing Protobears with a Starter fit is enjoyable.
Well, I must admit I run proto too. So maybe you are getting a little more enjoyment than I am... lol
What can I say. I'm rich beeeeeotch!!!
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:31:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Bethhy wrote:It was introduced as a light Anti Vehicle weapon... for mobile infantry. That thought is awesome. Unfortunately it was introduced as a OHKO weapon in a game that we have to pay asset's for each death. Alot of people mistakenly(myself included) thought CCP was going to introduce a specialized weapon with slow reload times that did massive AOE damage to large groups of Mercenaries with CCP like drawbacks. As they where taunting us on the forums with a possibility to score and track Kill Assist's as a legitimate Statistic in DUST. How foolish was I I see you are in the "i am intitled so completely change Plasma Cannons so they are fun for me, even though they already have a loyal following that likes them they way they are" crowd. **** you. Just sounds like a protobear who got one shotted too many times. LOL That is the best part of the PLC in my opinion. Have ton's of isk.. ask Trap.. its pretty excessive.. If I'm getting OHKO'ed which is fine because the problem is everyone is. same with a majority of weapons in this game now. And if that's what everyone want's is a game where no amount of health point's change the fact you still die in one shot(skilled sniper shot's being the exception).... we should just get rid of skill points. A STD logi should die in one grenade... two? sure.... I know for sure it screw's up any meaning of working for 3 month's to build skills and a suit to have a STD militia forge gun one shot you... or a militia grenade... or a PLC... or even my flaylock for some sadly...
I totally agree with you EXCEPT for in the case of the PLC. That thing is damn hard to use and if I hit you dead on, you deserve to die. The nades and forges are a totally different story though. If I could PLC someone from across the map routinely I would say it was a problem. But I am a CQC PLC user so odds are you'll kill me unless I get the drop first. That is the trade off for the OHK I guess. None of the noob tubes have a trade off. So there is that.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:42:00 -
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@ Bethhy
It would be pretty sweet if there was a higher tiered AOE version of the PLC with a massive splash radius but low damage. Working in tandem with a masshole would be aaaaamazing.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:50:00 -
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Fizzer, she's got a point. You can be butthurt and right at the same time you know. lolol (Sorry Bethhy, just kidding really.)
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:58:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Sniper Rifles are specialty weapons made by the Caldari for long range. Their rough Gallente counterpart is the Shotgun. Amarr: Laser Rifle. Minmatar: Mass Driver. That's just the way I see it, I could be wrong, but it makes sense, given the current data.
In what world is the Shotgun the Gallente equivalent to the Sniper Rifle? I mean, I know the Gal are more CQC but that just sounds craaaaaaazy.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:04:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:EDIT; Double post.
Are Amarr long or close range? Or duel? Does that make the scrambler pistol just as fair an option as the laser for the Amarr sniper?
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:04:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory.
Sorry. Not an AV weapon.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:12:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS
Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon?
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:26:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA) racial sidearm 1 racial sidearm 2 racial knives racial light AV racial heavy AV Racial heavy AI Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against infantry doesn't make it an AI weapon. An forge gun can blow up infatry. Does that make it an AI weapon? it was (poorly) designed as an AV weapon, as part of the light AV catagory. reguardless of how its used thats where (on the design chart) it sits.
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here.
Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:33:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon. you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen
I believe that is against shields, not vehicles in general.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:44:00 -
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Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:00:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles.
Do I even have to say it? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Swarm Launcher. lol
Alright, I've already conceded the fact that you are right so no need to argue anymore. Sorry for the MAJOR derail OP.
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:05:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. Plasma Cannon, the shortest range, highest damage per shot, antimaterial, blaster category, sniper rifle!!!! EDIT: What derail roofer?
We quit talking about sniper rifles a long time ago.... lol
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:09:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. as one of the only AV weapons that ddiddnt get reduced damage for 1.7 im kinda interested to see its eventual rise in popularity, it may not be the strongest, but it is one of the funnyest.
It does win the funny award. I have to go to push to talk when I use it due to excessive giggling. The only thing that could be funnier are the eventual PLC is OP threads...
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