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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:41:00 -
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its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs
Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA)
racial sidearm 1
racial sidearm 2
racial knives
racial light AV
racial heavy AV
Racial heavy AI
Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:10:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs
Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA)
racial sidearm 1
racial sidearm 2
racial knives
racial light AV
racial heavy AV
Racial heavy AI
Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon.
technically it IS as thats the catagory of weapon its in design wise. reguardless of what its good at or used for, its a plasma RPG, designed as a plasma RPG, and was designed as part of the AV catagory. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:16:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs
Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA)
racial sidearm 1
racial sidearm 2
racial knives
racial light AV
racial heavy AV
Racial heavy AI
Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon?
Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against infantry doesn't make it an AI weapon. An forge gun can blow up infatry. Does that make it an AI weapon?
it was (poorly) designed as an AV weapon, as part of the light AV catagory. reguardless of how its used thats where (on the design chart) it sits. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:18:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its the galante swarm launcher actually
weapons are designed in wierd tiers
you have racial ARs
Racial specialist (shotgun, lazer, mass driver, Caldari TBA)
racial sidearm 1
racial sidearm 2
racial knives
racial light AV
racial heavy AV
Racial heavy AI
Racial sniper (evidence of a minmatar sniper rifle in progress via concept art)
the plasma cannon is in the racial light AV catagory. Sorry. Not an AV weapon. technically it IS Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree. Just because something works against vehicles doesn't make it an AV weapon. An HMG can blow up a LAV. Does that make it an AV weapon? Yeah, I've actually blown up an HAV with my Toxin SMG. No Lie, logis honor (granted, it was already burning, but I got the +150 for the kill)
a poor sica desided to try to attack my 6 man squad once and non of us had AV, so we blew it up with ARs and SMGs (no lie) |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:28:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
AND im done.
i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process.
it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here.
(for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon.) |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess.
for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon.
you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:36:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:
The Assault FG is an AI weapon. Other than speculation do you actually have any proof that it was designed to be AV? I would like to see it please. I think it was supposed to be AOE but failed.
AND im done. i have no interest in convincing you or proving it. i simply chose to share my insight into CCPs design process. it matters very little how much evidence anyone provides your opinion would remain unchanged and so thats all for me here. Hey, I thought we we're just having friendly conversation. I was wondering if CCP actually said somewhere if it was AV and if you had a link. That's all. Nevermind I guess. for the sake of argument i point to the efficiancy of weapons, AV designed weaponry has decidedly higher efficiancy against vehicles and instalations, AI weaponry has **** poor efficiancy against the same targets. Plasma cannon has a high efficiancy rating and therefore was designed as AV. the eception to this rule is the mass driver wich is a wierd middle ground and while it doesnt have the same high efficiancy that AV weaponry has it has the highest efficiancy of any AI weapon. you determin the "efficiancy" by pointing your gun at it and reading the info provided at the bottom of your screen I believe that is against shields, not vehicles in general.
the same weapon will have different efficiancy ratings against infantry then it does against vehicles and instalations.
aka an SMG will have different readouts depending on what your shooting at, its efficiancy against vehicles is greatly deminished compaired to infantry.
note that this is SEPERATE from shield/armor efficiancy even though its the same stat and readout.
point your AR at an instalation or tank and you will see the difference in damage efficiancy % compaired to infantry.
AV weapons dont have this difference and do their full damage to vehicles unlink AI designed weapons wich do.
i suggest you load up a game and point your SMG and plasma cannon at different targets to see what i mean. |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:55:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry.
so everything is more efficiant against infantry?
and no AV weapons exsist?
its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory.
im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. |
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:15:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Now that is truly the best "PLC is an AV" argument I've ever heard. +1 sir. I stand corrected.
Given that fact I believe that makes the PLC the most versatile weapon in the game. Even more so than FG because you can run it on any suit.
edit: It could be argued that no matter the efficiency rating if you can OHK a dropsuit and not a turret or a vehicle than the PLC is still more efficient against infantry. so everything is more efficiant against infantry? and no AV weapons exsist? its AV simply because it was designed wwith that intent, and it fits in that design catagory. im actually happyer with its current use then if people only brought it out against vehicles. as one of the only AV weapons that ddiddnt get reduced damage for 1.7 im kinda interested to see its eventual rise in popularity, it may not be the strongest, but it is one of the funnyest. It does win the funny award. I have to go to push to talk when I use it due to excessive giggling. The only thing that could be funnier are the eventual PLC is OP threads...
the PLC is definatly the best AV weapon outside of av granades for inside of cities where forge guns are too slow and swarms hit things before they reach the target.
i expect that to get much more evident once 1.7 hits.
im cheering you guys on like nobody else :P i dont use it personally (minmatar purist) but i love the thing. |
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