It's too accurate from the hip. My only complaint. It has range and is way too good in CQC.

I use this thing often and you cannot tell me it is not ridiculous in CQC.

All that to say - correlation =/= causation. People cried over the Flaylock because it was actually broken. CCP fixed the Flaylock because it was broken, not because people cried. And now, word is spreading that the Scrambler rifle is actually good and thus victims are complaining more (which they do about any weapon they frequently die to whether its OP or not). If the complaints about the Scrambler had been consistent all the way back to Uprising 1.0 it would be one thing.....but the community accepted that it was fine at the time, and for the most part it still is.
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Because the flaylock was clearly broken, and the Scrambler rifle was one of the few weapons recently that CCP actually delivered in a fairly balanced state.

Now recently its seen a spike in popularity, certainly, but it has not actually changed or gained any power (save for the range buff in 1.7) . The perceived power of the weapon has far more to do with the (now declining) popularity of shield fits, which the scrambler rifle absolutely wrecks. All in all though - scrambler and assault rifles are both very solid, competitive weapons.

All that to say - correlation =/= causation. People cried over the Flaylock because it was actually broken. CCP fixed the Flaylock because it was broken, not because people cried. And now, word is spreading that the Scrambler rifle is actually good and thus victims are complaining more (which they do about any weapon they frequently die to whether its OP or not). If the complaints about the Scrambler had been consistent all the way back to Uprising 1.0 it would be one thing.....but the community accepted that it was fine at the time, and for the most part it still is.

As far as the future goes - too early to tell. CCP will watch how all this plays out with the new rifles, but Scrambler rifle users need not fear the nerfbat for the immediate future. Just because people are crying about it does not mean CCP recognizes it as a problem. If they do, I've missed a post or comment somewhere.

CCP is going to gather data on the ScR for a patch or two before they make any adjustments to it. They are looking at the macro; how much damage has been dealt by the ScR by players in 30 days? How many players have been killed by the ScR in 30 days? How does that then compare to other light weapons? What dropsuits are being killed the most by the ScR? How often are damage mods being fitted to ScR wielders?

To quote the mechromancer from Borderlands 2, "Numbers, numbers, math, math, math..."

Funny how scramblers have been the same since Uprising, but the QQers are only complaining about it now

Fix the heat bypass glitch and I wouldn't mind. but I don't use Scr so I have no opinion.

That said a corp mate demonstrated that he could empty a clip and a half of the assault variant (no glitch) and only then overheat. Doesn't sound like much of a compensation to me.

But like I said, I don't use it so I can't really say

Funny how CCP changed the scrambler rifle operations to allow a faster cool down rate to get more shots off without over heating; compared to the original reduced charged scrambler shot time which after lvl 5 operations let you charge a shot within 1.5 seconds instead of 2 seconds. Funny that!

But you wouldn't know that would you because you skilled into the F.O.T.M

Hey smart guy...

...they changed the bonus because it didn't affect ASCR users in the slightest. Why make a bonus for a gun that the other version can't benefit from?

Now, walk over to that corner, put your head down and think about what you said.

And before you say "another FoTM player", I have been a SCR user since the second they were introduced.

I disagree about the range part. It honestly will be outperformed by a lazy AR user at any range. It's "OP" when a select few people are good with it.

Similar to how people think tanks are OP because they can't kill a smart tanker.
Or how a good scout can go 30/1.

It does either need

1. RoF cut (10-20% max)
2. Accuracy cut while hip firing

Because the flaylock was clearly broken, and the Scrambler rifle was one of the few weapons recently that CCP actually delivered in a fairly balanced state.

Damn,

Looks like the general population are ok with it

If it's true that its not changed since Uprising then,
chances are this is caused by AA

either way , scrambler rifles are killing unbelievably fast and it should be looked at

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I find it hilarious that a weapon hailed as perfectly balanced for months after release is picked up on as a viable weapon, so therefore it must be nerfed.

that's what im saying it was balanced FOTM runners went and ruined it fo everyone

the only thing that needs nerfing to tone down scrambler rifle power is the nerfing of a specific fitting.

the scr alone on its own works pretty good for me on my cheap core skill specced into mlt fits.

i dont actually think the gun with nothing but base stats unspecced into is op it self.

id say its just the higher tiered fits that may need to be toned down a little.

now with the stats incorporated into the scr with a certain amarr dropsuit and all the cooldown skills maxed out u can fire the semi auto version for an extremely long time. and get off several extremely powerful charge shots as well.

i only see a few possible fixes without breaking the weapon and making it useless though.

one possible fix could be reducing fire rate to some where around the current tac ar.
and possibly increasing dispersion for it but its a laser weapon and the second option might make it less effective in cqc but it just doesnt sound like something a laser weapon would have.

and sadly armor doesnt feel like it helps vs the scrambler rifle.

Flaylock... nerfed? Even with the reduction in blast radius, I can still OHK people with my fully skilled flaylock pistol. The real secret is that if you fully spec out and practice enough with just about any weapon in this game, then it can own people when used properly. That is the point of any weapon after all.

The ScR is beyond broken and that is not even with the Amarr bonus which just makes it retarted.

For starters, you do not give a ranged weapon high stopping power and High RoF.

However I will go with the flow, its not me who will be getting smashed by it.

How come when the Flaylock pistol was rampaging in Dust, people cried and CCP acted

now we have Scrambler rifles hitting obscene amounts of DMG, clearly FOTM
seen as everyone and their mother has spec'd into it

yet....

CCP seem to have not noticed ......

Any opinions on this ??