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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
204
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:42:00 -
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This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
375
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:43:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Vanell Sin
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
8
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:46:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:47:00 -
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Because it is not the save all patch everyone was expecting.
Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ?
CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
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lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:49:00 -
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Sucks if you've specialized in swarms: less than 50% of the range and 35% damage reduction!
Respec for swarm user SP! :) |
lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:51:00 -
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Scouts are still suffering. Some help for them is long overdue. The slight scan radius increase doesn't help them enough. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1149
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:58:00 -
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Everything in 1.7 is a "yes" from me, except for the sheer fact there'll be an even stronger scanner, which is a kick in the teeth for the paper people. Forge Gun is still extremely dependable. The Assault FG got the rightful kick in the nads. I'll see a lot less spamming of explosives in FW. I'll get something by doing FW (though I do it anyways, so long live the Federation!). I get to complete my Commando with the long awaited weapon setup I've been plotting. HAVers will shut the **** up for a while, then start to cry that the FG still balanced and usable in the aspect that it will still kill their HAVs.
ABOVE ALL, I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR GODDAMN HEALTH WHEN I LOGIBRO!
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
159
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:02:00 -
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The reasons I'm upset
1 forge nerf.....fg was fine it needed that power to fight tanks......you've nerfed splash and now you nerf the damage and charge time.....now my heavy suit can survive direct hits from some fgs......I understand the argument that its an av weapon but let's look at the way you have to use it.....charge time single shot no ads and your aiming reticle shakes like an epileptic ragdoll when charging ...........it wasn't op to begin with and I do mean that.......well CCP I want a respec of heavy weapons......the hmg is broken and the fgs are about useless as well......I have fully proto hmg skills and forge skills I want that sp back
2 and this is a huge problem.......the respec they're giving vehicle users.......I understand y they're doing it but they need a respec for everyone in this case.......I understand this is new eden and things aren't fair but a majority of tankers and D's pilots are just putting every single point into proto slayer logi suits..........its creating a problem while trying to fix another.......I say either EVERYONE gets a respec or NOBODY gets one |
Tac Com
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
81
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:12:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:2 and this is a huge problem.......the respec they're giving vehicle users.......I understand y they're doing it but they need a respec for everyone in this case.......I understand this is new eden and things aren't fair but a majority of tankers and D's pilots are just putting every single point into proto slayer logi suits..........its creating a problem while trying to fix another.......I say either EVERYONE gets a respec or NOBODY gets one
I don't necessarily agree that the vehicle only respec is the right thing to do, but I think you're blowing this out of preportion. More over I'd say it would be better to focus on the fact that multiple infantry weapons are being changed yet no respec is being given.
The changes to vehicles are sounding harsher then they really are. With the changes to AV it will be much safer to drive/fly around so long as you're not making yourself an easy target. These AV weapons will still pack a strong punch in conjuction with the lowered slots for HAVs and general squishiness of the other 2 vehicles. With the much softer AV, I'm finding it doubtful that most tankers will be switching to slayer suits. They will probably reinvest some SP into infantry skills but likely they will still have their tanks.
As for Dropship pilots, that group of people might very well leave to fight on the ground. Or atleast get to a basic dropship and modules and kit it out that way. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3968
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:12:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf. For ****'s sake it's NOT A ******* NERF.
How can you look at all the info in that blog, including that ALL - say it with me - ALL AV weapons have had their damage reduced and the Forge Gun is even having its charge times extended and call that just a nerf to HAVs?
God-*******-dammit I just hate this place sometimes.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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steadyhand amarr
steadyhands independent mercenarys
2013
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:16:00 -
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Scouts do their awsomly however once a scout scouts he no longer needs to scout
Ie other than the fist 5 minutes of a match or the need to break out and get uplinka down there is no use for scouts, so scouts are not underpowerd their is just no gameplay roles for them to fill. I.e.. No need to actually scout.
Most scouts want to be frontline fights where basicly the opersite to what a scout class should be.
Also ontopic, at this point its more force if habbit and pkayers being sure they have ccp have screwed up someware :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
641
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:28:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Because it is not the save all patch everyone was expecting.
:> Which is always the case, right?
Can't think of a single update where there didn't end up a massive cry about something related to it.
I thought 1.6 was different BUT the TTK became an issue to most after a while.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Foley Jones
The Exemplars Top Men.
273
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:32:00 -
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lrian Locust wrote:Scouts are still suffering. My caldari assualt suit wants a word with you.....
Got dat Murderboner raging on
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
207
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:33:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:The reasons I'm upset
1 forge nerf.....fg was fine it needed that power to fight tanks......you've nerfed splash and now you nerf the damage and charge time.....now my heavy suit can survive direct hits from some fgs......I understand the argument that its an av weapon but let's look at the way you have to use it.....charge time single shot no ads and your aiming reticle shakes like an epileptic ragdoll when charging ...........it wasn't op to begin with and I do mean that.......well CCP I want a respec of heavy weapons......the hmg is broken and the fgs are about useless as well......I have fully proto hmg skills and forge skills I want that sp back
2 and this is a huge problem.......the respec they're giving vehicle users.......I understand y they're doing it but they need a respec for everyone in this case.......I understand this is new eden and things aren't fair but a majority of tankers and D's pilots are just putting every single point into proto slayer logi suits..........its creating a problem while trying to fix another.......I say either EVERYONE gets a respec or NOBODY gets one i agree with the respec idea.... but still. it doesnt ruin it for me.... regardless of the negatives THIS STILL IS AN AWESOME PATCH
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
766
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:37:00 -
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You give kids red sweets and you get complaints from the kids that like blue sweets. Its human nature.
Of course, by the time we become adults we are supposed to be able to overcome that human nature and act in a more socially responsible way. But that's in the real world, and those rules don't seem to apply online.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
182
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:48:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:
[...]
Most scouts want to be frontline fights where basicly the opersite to what a scout class should be.
[...]
Actually no, most of us scouts realise that the frontline is not for us, flanking, sneaking, ninja-hacking, and basically sneak attacks is what we're doing. And that's what we enjoy.
If we wanted frontline fights, we'd be in medium suits. |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:54:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
LOL. Well, Fawkuima, you can see from the posts what the underlying problem is. It's much like owning a brewery. You call the department heads in for a weekly update meeting, and tell them you are providing free protection suits for all staff to wear when they are on the brewery floor (this is a good thing because it keeps their hair from falling in and contaminating the product--and keeps them safe from accidental spills and injury):
The west-packing department says you should have made all the suits dark blue because THEY use blue pens in THEIR department, and a blue protective suit will conceal blue ink stains. The penthouse department says you should have made ALL the suits as thin as possible, because THEY have skylights in THEIR department, and the sun will make the suits stuffy and hot. The loading dock department says you should have made ALL the suits extra thick, because THEY keep the dock doors open during wintertime in THEIR department, and THEY will get cold wearing thin suits. The "sniper" department says "ME!"... and the A/V department says "OURS"... and the dropship department says "US and screw them!".... and...well... (we're not actually saying such selfish words, but we don't realize this is what our complaints amount to when you line them all up on the same blackboard)
Patch 1.7 is a "foundation" patch, intended for the long haul. It's not a patch like 1.2 or 1.3 which arguably was considered "experimenting" or "tweaking". The devs have expressed that "foundation" is first here, and the role/logi/etc particulars will come AFTERWARDS, not now. But few of us will appreciate what we don't care about--we live in our singular department of the brewery.
So the appreciation and generosity you're asking for from the community is Superbly Social Thinking, but no longer part of gamer behavior (...or maybe it never was...I don't know). Dread not, Fawkuima. And let this thread go. Put down this burden, LOL. I'm sure some of us outside this crowd already embrace Patch 1.7 as you do... We just STAY outside this crowd.
Hope to see you all after the 10th.
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DeadlyAztec11
2491
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf. For ****'s sake it's NOT A ******* NERF. How can you look at all the info in that blog, including that ALL - say it with me - ALL AV weapons have had their damage reduced and the Forge Gun is even having its charge times extended and call that just a nerf to HAVs? God-*******-dammit I just hate this place sometimes. Yes give into the dark side, let it fuel you.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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DeadlyAztec11
2491
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:03:00 -
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Think about it like this.
AV was nerfed so its role is severely reduced.
HAV's were nerfed in tank but buffed in damage. So red line tanking is going to be easier and more popular.
Dropships are still crap and tanks will just gib them easier.
And now we have FF on, so atop all of this we now have to deal with griefing :/
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Jessica Montoya
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
24
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:05:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Because it is not the save all patch everyone was expecting.
Its the attitude of the generations. I want this and I want it now!
People talk of balance and how easy it would be to ballance this or that. But they fail to realize exactly jow much work it takes to balance things. "Looks good when I write it down" ya but its impractical and won't work in game. "Its a simple thing why can't you do it?" Because what you see as simple takes 100 man hours to do.
People expect ballance out the gate and fixes to what's broken 5 min afrer they find it and fail to acknowledge any other fix not concerning their style of play. They also fail to notice the progress made in the game and just how much is getting fixed/added.
I gurante you if its out of ballance someone is fixing it. If its broken someone has it in a list on their desk and the back of their mind to fix it when they get a chance. One thing CCP does well is make good products excellent. Otherwise they would be like other companies and have games being made for 10 years before the first teaser 5 years before its released then droped like a bad habbit for the next project (cod anyone? I mean a new one is out every 6 months or so it seems like.) This game is not the best fps out there. Or the most mmo like mmo out there. But the vision is vast and like eve will take more than a decade to get where its going. But even then it won't be done. Dust like EVE will always evolve, change, and get bigger and better. |
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
190
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:19:00 -
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pve? our grandkids wont be alive when this is implemented. it goes beyond soon. |
chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
90
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:22:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
they didn't give us a new heavy suit or heavy weapon. we are stuck with a flyswatter hmg and a forge gun.... |
gandalgrey
Endless Hatred
93
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:25:00 -
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Why all the hate I think this a good patch but all I here is hate and people whining they had there shite nerfed get over it move on and spec into something new insted of following what is op
Enjoy my logi love juice after you have my needle in your arse
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
90
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:29:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf. For ****'s sake it's NOT A ******* NERF. How can you look at all the info in that blog, including that ALL - say it with me - ALL AV weapons have had their damage reduced and the Forge Gun is even having its charge times extended and call that just a nerf to HAVs? God-*******-dammit I just hate this place sometimes. did you forget about the huge nerf to tanks? they reduced tanks survivability and total HP by over 1/2. AV got nerfed by 1/3 of its dam. do the math and you will see what im talking about
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
790
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:43:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Most scouts want to be frontline fights where basicly the opersite to what a scout class should be.
Most scouts don't want to be on the frontline. Most scouts want to be behind the enemy line. Guess what. There are enemies back there. Scouts shouldn't be as good at combat as the assault, heavy, and (perhaps) the logi. However, they still need to be competent enough at it that they can take out a red or two through good positioning and surprise or escape from bad odds if noticed.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1313
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Posted - 2013.12.05 15:06:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Agreed. I feel for the scouts(and the heavybros too) and i think they're overdue some long and dirty luvvin' ;)
But that doesn't take away from this patch. What i wanted and expected from 1.7 was vehicles and that's what we got. If you take away vehicles, 1.7 is still a good patch, with a range of improvements, balances, fixes and quality-of-life spread across almost the entire game content.
1.8 is supposed to be the infantry patch, afaik. That's where i'd expect to see scouts and heavies get the attention they need. This next week is prolly the time for those classes to make sure that CCP continues to get quality feedback, since there's prolly still some flexibility in terms of what gets worked on for 1.8 - but do it quick because devtime is going to get locked up pretty fast.
To me, the most encouraging aspect of 1.7 is it is a further confirmation the CCP is sticking to their 'Fixing the Core' roadmap(as were 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6). That's the right call, and if we compare where we're at with the roadmap we're more than halfway through. That's a hella lotta vegetables, tbh. Hilmar better have some damned fine desserts lined up for us.
I support SP rollover.
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
775
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:24:00 -
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fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Don't know about other people, but this is why I'm pissed. Everything else in the new build I either like or can deal with, but this ruins an entire race's dropsuits even though they've been severely gimped since implementation.
Fix TTK!!!
MATARI PRIDE!!!
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The Bacon Corporation
115
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:29:00 -
[28] - Quote
chase rowland wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf. For ****'s sake it's NOT A ******* NERF. How can you look at all the info in that blog, including that ALL - say it with me - ALL AV weapons have had their damage reduced and the Forge Gun is even having its charge times extended and call that just a nerf to HAVs? God-*******-dammit I just hate this place sometimes. did you forget about the huge nerf to tanks? they reduced tanks survivability and total HP by over 1/2. AV got nerfed by 1/3 of its dam. do the math and you will see what im talking about You left out the buffs to resistances which more than make up for that difference, plus 1 of the only 4 AV weapons in the game now has less damage AND less range after already receiving a clip size nerf only a few months ago. Quit yo' bitchin'.
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Her Nibs
Pradox One Proficiency V.
88
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:34:00 -
[29] - Quote
fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
AV Nerf
My passion for explosions is only preceded by my love for Canadian bacon, beer, and maple syrup
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
195
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:35:00 -
[30] - Quote
Nothing new for heavies no fix for our weapons, second nerf in a row for forge guns.. Despite the balance being for "AV" there is a potential for players to survive a direct forge shot..
Which is total bs after the splash nerf.
Can't kill with multiple splash shots -> must kill with direct hit -> direct hit no longer kills. Wat. |
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Her Nibs
Pradox One Proficiency V.
88
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:35:00 -
[31] - Quote
lrian Locust wrote:Sucks if you've specialized in swarms: less than 50% of the range and 35% damage reduction!
Respec for swarm user SP! :)
Here Here
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
397
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:38:00 -
[32] - Quote
I am a heavy, a Minmatar scout, and a Minmatar assault. I also shield tank my suits.
Yeah. My already gimped character gets screwed over some more. With each patch, I see all my SP becoming more and more worthless as everything I specced into crumbles...
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Justice Prevails
132
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:56:00 -
[33] - Quote
Even with the patch the game kind of remains the same. With low ttk, it is still who sees who first wins. As a Caldari assault AR user, its not that bad, but kind of boring. For Heavies and scouts, I would think it s**ks. They are either too slow or paper thin to get to cover in time. They have to be more formidable to allow variety of gameplay styles. Just wish this issue was addressed.
With the shield nerf, AV, and vehicles, believe we have to wait and see.
Love the new content (volcanoes) and I am exited about FW.(LP and standing, not the griefing)
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5809
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:58:00 -
[34] - Quote
Anmol Singh wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Tank nerf.
If you believe 1.7 is a tank nerf, you're an idiot.
Level 5 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3273
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:00:00 -
[35] - Quote
Because 80% of this community are idiots and just want something to complain about.
There are about two groups of people that should be legitimately annoyed while the others are just a little annoyed at not having what they want yet and bitching about it.
Example: I'd really like the Gallente assault to not have a shield bonus and more sidearm diversity but of course I'm not selfish, nor foolish enough to ***** about this patch because it doesn't suit to my needs specifically.
Then there are things like the cold shoulder CCP has been giving the heavies for quite some time now that are legitmate reasons to get pissed. |
danthrax martin
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:16:00 -
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I got nerfed... I'll never make fun of it again... I will have to learn a new av style... Oh...wait... Ammo depots... Hhmmm...
First to die, and i dont cry, even after the thale sends my brain spray to the sky, before the orbital makes me pie!
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Justice Prevails
132
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:22:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:I got nerfed... I'll never make fun of it again... I will have to learn a new av style... Oh...wait... Ammo depots... Hhmmm...
Oh yeah! Forgot about tanks needing to get ammo. Nice
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Oswald Rehnquist
782
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:23:00 -
[38] - Quote
Nothing wrong with what is in 1.7, a lot of work went into it, some were upset over the shield thing (I'm not), but trust me if you are part of the cookie cutter med frames, you were prioritized first and had all choices made available to you to establish your playstyle, which actually allows for some real customization, which is pretty huge part of an enjoyable game, compared to the limited content and playstyles offered by the other frames, which makes the game stale very fast (one more months should be the motto)
CCP also doesn't do well with caring for broken suits/roles unless there is some form of outrage, which is the wrong approach to follow because that just invites outrage as the only way to communicate with CCP.
Beyond those who are upset over a particular change (ff, shields, whatever) or another this pretty much explains why people are frustrated.
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AP Grasshopper
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
54
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:53:00 -
[39] - Quote
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
208
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Posted - 2013.12.06 09:37:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:
Agreed. I feel for the scouts(and the heavybros too) and i think they're overdue some long and dirty luvvin' ;)
But that doesn't take away from this patch. What i wanted and expected from 1.7 was vehicles and that's what we got. If you take away vehicles, 1.7 is still a good patch, with a range of improvements, balances, fixes and quality-of-life spread across almost the entire game content.
1.8 is supposed to be the infantry patch, afaik. That's where i'd expect to see scouts and heavies get the attention they need. This next week is prolly the time for those classes to make sure that CCP continues to get quality feedback, since there's prolly still some flexibility in terms of what gets worked on for 1.8 - but do it quick because devtime is going to get locked up pretty fast.
To me, the most encouraging aspect of 1.7 is it is a further confirmation the CCP is sticking to their 'Fixing the Core' roadmap(as were 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6). That's the right call, and if we compare where we're at with the roadmap we're more than halfway through. That's a hella lotta vegetables, tbh. Hilmar better have some damned fine desserts lined up for us.
yea for sure.... but really in my eyes if u took away all the vehicle changes, there still is ,new weapons, lp, fw, and a lot of other big changes. its still impressive
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
304
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Posted - 2013.12.06 09:45:00 -
[41] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Scouts do their role awsomly however once a scout scouts he no longer needs to scout
Ie other than the fist 5 minutes of a match or the need to break out and get uplinka down there is no use for scouts, so scouts are not underpowerd their is just no gameplay roles for them to fill. I.e.. No need to actually scout.
Most scouts want to be frontline fights where basicly the opersite to what a scout class should be.
Also ontopic, at this point its more force if habbit and pkayers being sure they have ccp have screwed up someware :-P
The point with scouts is you can't hide I am totally fine with flanking and sneaking behind enemy lines to hack a letter or with hunting snipers outside the redline. But the problem with all this is you CAN'T hide.
Even if you lower you profile to a number that even the focussed active scanner can't beat the scanner user still know you are there. The only thing you can hide is your exact position on the tacnet but thats it.
And now throw in a rather bad slot layout with only little CPU/PG a nimble speedavantage with paperthin HP and all this with improved hitdetection and aim assist. This leads to scouts beeing running corpses most the time... |
Kane Fyea
2328
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Posted - 2013.12.06 09:47:00 -
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lrian Locust wrote:Sucks if you've specialized in swarms: less than 50% of the range and 35% damage reduction!
Respec for swarm user SP! :) About 56% range nerf and 33% damage nerf. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance
552
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Posted - 2013.12.06 09:50:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'm ecstatic at the prospect. The battles would be epic in there.
I just hope the 'loyalist' suits are gonna look extra sexy
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
815
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Posted - 2013.12.06 09:58:00 -
[44] - Quote
I am not happy because CCP again made a bad decision with the SP refund. tank players can basically respec into suits and I guess most will leaving those players with massive SP invested into AV (which also gets nerfs) with weaker weapons against less targets to shoot.
just a note, alot people skilled up for something and CCP made their choice meaningless and I am not talking about nerfs, I am talking about core changes. just a simple example are people that decided to go for scouts where patch after patch CCP changed the dynamic and mechanic of their choices with changes in the core gameplay and simply made the class almost useless (with stuff like speed changes and aim assist). they got penalized for no reason, those players deserve a respec too.
in short, tank players should only be allow to place their SP back into tank skills. either everyone has to live with their choices or no one, it cant be more simple. |
Zelorian Dexter snr
8thDivision
98
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Posted - 2013.12.06 10:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
lrian Locust wrote:Sucks if you've specialized in swarms: less than 50% of the range and 35% damage reduction!
Respec for swarm user SP! :)
I have proto swarms and these rebalanced stats will make using them more fun no more tower camping for us |
Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
396
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Posted - 2013.12.06 10:13:00 -
[46] - Quote
I too am in it for the long run, this does go a long way to showing us that ccp is working hard. People just like to complain, mostly. There are some things which are way out of balance, like the gallente assault rifle for instance. I believe things will smothen out, its gonna take longer with QQ and empty threats to leave tho.... |
lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Scouts do their role awsomly however once a scout scouts he no longer needs to scout Ie other than the fist 5 minuters of a match or the need to break out and get uplinka down there is no use for scouts, so scouts are not underpowerd their is just no gameplay roles for them to fill. I.e.. No need to actually scout. Don't agree. During the game scouts are still useful to: - Patrol the perimeter to kill enemy snipers - Get rid of enemy uplinks - Prevent flanking or attacks in the rear - e-warfare (during Skirmish) - etc.
The only problem with the scout is that their PG and CPU are so limited that they can't fit the modules need for their work and/or to survive.
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:30:00 -
[48] - Quote
Well as a big skeptic of the game over the last half a year or so I will say 1.7 is looking to be the best patch yet. However I think the problem is CCP promised / slated too much from the start.
Aside from current glaring issue, both with game design like the scouts, and the MAJOR game bugs especially PC lag and really low frame-rate issues (That has ONLY JUST been spotted by a dev to be "Looked into after 1.7" I might add), I think CCP tried to show us a vision that is either -
A. Going to take about a decade to create at this rate or B. They wanted but they realise is not achievable, unless they have plans for a PC or PS4 release as I think the PS3 is just too limiting.
A lot of people have tried dust and decided they didn't like it. Not because the premise of the game is crap but I think because the implementation has been very slow and execution has been weak at times.
Others have stuck the game out for over a year, some since the very first days of beta. Still some people believe while Chromosome wasn't perfect, it had many features that made the game more fun back then. Not only that - over a year of buying boosters and aurum from CCP and they have not a lot to show in the way of progress.
Couple that with the new consoles and constant new titles popping out - its a hard choice indeed to stick with DUST.
EDIT- My issue with scouts is mainly that after the autoaim bollocks, scouts no longer have a speed advantage, at least in terms of survivability. The autoaim killed the game for me personally. There are many other problems just look at Shottys scout thread, look how many people have left or are leaving. Quite the indication if you ask me. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
744
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
I am stoked for the ability to delete all mail at once. CCP has finally done something worthy of not spitting on. |
Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
96
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Posted - 2013.12.06 15:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Because it is THEIR imbalanced game that we are waiting on THEM to balance. They released a game that wasn't finished and said, we will get the rest of the game out SoonTM. Well its been a year, we still have half a game. Up to this point, only a few patches (that's generous) have been enjoyable. The basic problems with lag and rendering aren't yet fixed. Instead we get a "press start to see the front of your character" gimmick.
Couple that with CCP changing suit loadouts and modules frequently, people feel like they're wasting SP and time when CCP does this. They don't offer respecs....why stick around to play a buggy game with creators that really don't give a **** about you or your character? There are many other games on the PS3 that offer more enjoyment, I think what Dust does have is an excellent idea, the "WoW of FPS". Someone will come along SOONtm and nail this idea. I think we'd like it to be CCP, but honestly they've proven they don't have what it takes to put a game on a console. |
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
106
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:00:00 -
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Personally I think this patch was a step in the right direction, bringing a lot of things to play that should have been this way from the beginning. Tanks have survivability now, av isnt all powerful against them and make them have to constantly run away. They cant shoot swarms at people from the tops of towers with no chance of missing anymore. Great additions.
Tank updates for their rendering, great thing! No they can actually use the damn railguns at a range that their meant to be used at.
Rifle updates remain to be seen but im hoping for a larger effective range for the laser rifle, smaller range for the assault rifles, and maybe a little less cqc accuracy for the scrambler rifles. Those would all be really nice. Set those ar's to 50 meters for their damage dropoff and theyd perform fine where their suppose to.
New weapons remain to be seen but I will be playing around with basic level rail rifles in the future. Looks like they actually come with optics now. Combat rifles look like oversized smgs and will likely play like one. Really hope they got the dispersal patterns better for something like that or its going to be screamed from the hills for a nerf with that rate of fire.
This is coming from a scout who loved his scan range buff. Now I have around a 31 meter passive scan radius. Kinda love it, if it was just consistent now Id be happy.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
106
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
lrian Locust wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Scouts do their role awsomly however once a scout scouts he no longer needs to scout Ie other than the fist 5 minuters of a match or the need to break out and get uplinka down there is no use for scouts, so scouts are not underpowerd their is just no gameplay roles for them to fill. I.e.. No need to actually scout. Don't agree. During the game scouts are still useful to: - Patrol the perimeter to kill enemy snipers - Get rid of enemy uplinks - Prevent flanking or attacks in the rear - e-warfare (during Skirmish) - etc. The only problem with the scout is that their PG and CPU are so limited that they can't fit the modules need for their work and/or to survive. You forgot make a mad dash into a room with re's and clear the entire room with our bigger cowardly brothers standing outside the door in awe.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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DootDoot
Da Short Buss
113
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
Another content patch where 50% of it is pointless and not even with the times. very real big problems in the game that didn't get touched.. where very small issues and useless thing's got "buffed" "nerfed" "tweaked" |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
608
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:28:00 -
[54] - Quote
lrian Locust wrote:Sucks if you've specialized in swarms: less than 50% of the range and 35% damage reduction!
Respec for swarm user SP! :) Im swarm lvl 5 and prof lvl 2. Well its still has its uses. I cant wait to kill cocky pilots who are foolish enough to get to close. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2841
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:19:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:lrian Locust wrote:Scouts are still suffering. My caldari assualt suit wants a word with you..... What about it, you may be the reason we're getting hit but it's the Matari suits that feel it.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
218
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:10:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:fawkuima juggalo wrote:This update finally gave us the content we needed to start implementing the other essential things that we need in the game, like PVE, OPEN PLAYER MARKET, and all that needs to be put in before they can TRULY balance anything. I'm glad we've seen so much come from this update and i cant wait to see what the plan is for the next 6 months. I'm here all the way and i know that your gonna make me fall in love with this game over and over again.
so whats the problem?..... I see hella hate from the scouts, (mostly because scout don mega is displeased) but i even see people saying they're gonna quit. this update really should RESTORE faith in the game not destroy it.... i admit ive had faith in this game that has been shaken at times, but this is proof that they are FULFILLING PROMISES that they made and are well on the way to balancing the game once and for all. scouts will have a better time when people stop using scramblers and use rail rifles which will suck for close up, and then you can easily nova or shotgun or what ever sneaky ninja stuff.
I think players need to give more then just the "benefit of the doubt" CCP gave us something really good here that we should appreciate. Just try to put yourself in there shoes for a minute, theres strategy involved in all of this. CCP is doing their best to balance an imbalanced game and have to depend on us the community to guide them into that direction. Why ruin an awesome thing?
Because it is THEIR imbalanced game that we are waiting on THEM to balance. They released a game that wasn't finished and said, we will get the rest of the game out SoonTM. Well its been a year, we still have half a game. Up to this point, only a few patches (that's generous) have been enjoyable. The basic problems with lag and rendering aren't yet fixed. Instead we get a "press start to see the front of your character" gimmick. Couple that with CCP changing suit loadouts and modules frequently, people feel like they're wasting SP and time when CCP does this. They don't offer respecs....why stick around to play a buggy game with creators that really don't give a **** about you or your character? There are many other games on the PS3 that offer more enjoyment, I think what Dust does have is an excellent idea, the "WoW of FPS". Someone will come along SOONtm and nail this idea. I think we'd like it to be CCP, but honestly they've proven they don't have what it takes to put a game on a console. SOONGäó
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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N7 Operative Anthony
warravens League of Infamy
8
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:23:00 -
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Spoken like a true CCP fanboy... Haha |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
503
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:29:00 -
[58] - Quote
Look at his Corp name - A CCP millennium is but a fleeting moment. |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
134
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:39:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:I am not happy because CCP again made a bad decision with the SP refund. tank players can basically respec into suits and I guess most will leaving those players with massive SP invested into AV (which also gets nerfs) with weaker weapons against less targets to shoot. Not really, people respecing away from tanks means more tank noobs to shoot for AV guys ;)
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