I still think you're missing it if you think the equipment is "scouts only" in any way. It isn't. At all. Once again, Device equipment would be able to be equipped by anyone with an equipment slot. There would be no scout only equipment.

Interesting discussion. My thoughts.

New Item Slot: This looks like it will give scouts the ability to hold more gear but the extra gear will be limited. I'm ok with this as I'm sure any true scout wouldn't want to waste the slot on things like rep tools injectors when they can have both uplinks and scanners (scout items) instead.

Scouts shouldn't try to play multiple roles: True... but then again have you seen the other suits? Heavies are sniping, assault and logis are doing EVERYTHING! Leaving no room for the scout. If you don't give them a role then don't be surprised when you're getting Rambo revived by a MLT scout that's just trying to make a living.

Cloaking: Will not be completely invisible, just transparent (pay attention and you can still see them but an assault or logibro will be too busy to notice.)

@Jadd: You did, infact, miss what he is trying to say. How bout for the sake of the discussion we change "Equipment" and "Device" to "Large" and "Small" respectively. You can fit an active scanner (Small) in a large slot which every suit will still have, but you can't fit Rep tool (Large) in a scout's small slot just like with sidearm, light, and heavy weapons. You can put a sidearm in light slot, which everyone has, but cannot put a light weapon in a sidearm slot. Get it?

Final Thoughts: Wow, ever since the new games came out there have been many, many fewer D bags... Really puts a smile on meh face.

@Jadd: You did, infact, miss what he is trying to say. How bout for the sake of the discussion we change "Equipment" and "Device" to "Large" and "Small" respectively. You can fit an active scanner (Small) in a large slot which every suit will still have, but you can't fit Rep tool (Large) in a scout's small slot just like with sidearm, light, and heavy weapons. You can put a sidearm in light slot, which everyone has, but cannot put a light weapon in a sidearm slot. Get it?

Final Thoughts: Wow, ever since the new games came out there have been many, many fewer D bags... Really puts a smile on meh face.

No, I'm saying do NOT split equipment types. Meaning no large, medium, small or whatever categories for equipment types. Just plain equipment. What I was saying was to fix the ROLE BONUSES that come with the SCOUT SUIT. Meaning that if a non-scout picks up a scanner, they get the regular functions of that scanner... nothing special.

But if a scout picks up that SAME scanner and uses it they get like a 5% per level bonus on the dB to use it and thus are possibly 25% more likely to detect things with it. Maybe even give them a 5% per level bonus to range with the scanner too.

In addition, make scouts inherently "undetectable" to non-scouts using scanners. A non-scout can still reliably scan and detect everything else like they do now, but scouts would have a signature bonus that makes them much less likely to be scanned by a non-scout using a scanner.

BUT, when a scout with the role bonus of being able to use a scanner does a scan, they will be able to pick up even other scouts when scanning. This makes scouts needed as the "eyes" of the battlefield for both offense and defense.

That's what I've been saying.

No, I'm saying do NOT split equipment types. Meaning no large, medium, small or whatever categories for equipment types. Just plain equipment. What I was saying was to fix the ROLE BONUSES that come with the SCOUT SUIT. Meaning that if a non-scout picks up a scanner, they get the regular functions of that scanner... nothing special.

But if a scout picks up that SAME scanner and uses it they get like a 5% per level bonus on the dB to use it and thus are possibly 25% more likely to detect things with it. Maybe even give them a 5% per level bonus to range with the scanner too.

In addition, make scouts inherently "undetectable" to non-scouts using scanners. A non-scout can still reliably scan and detect everything else like they do now, but scouts would have a signature bonus that makes them much less likely to be scanned by a non-scout using a scanner.

BUT, when a scout with the role bonus of being able to use a scanner does a scan, they will be able to pick up even other scouts when scanning. This makes scouts needed as the "eyes" of the battlefield for both offense and defense.

That's what I've been saying.

I prefer the active module slot idea more so than "scout only equipment", you can actually make lore sense with modules designed to fit into the scout suit. It is harder for me to picture an "scout scanner" with a handle that only a scout knows how to grip.

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How much of the thread did you actually read?

No one suggested anything about "Scout only equipment".

Yea, I get that. Your comments just lead me to believe you were confused. Keep in mind that the idea is giving scouts another slot (like most of us keep asking for) but limiting what they can equip so that logis are still the go to suits for equipment.

Personally, I kinda like your idea as it would give more of an incentive for scouts to stick with scout tactics and gear.

These ideas are like two sides of the same coin. Both give scouts purpose but they go about it in completely different ways.

Yeah, I don't understand why people keep reading that when it's no where near anything in this thread. It's like people are going out of their way to derail the conversation.

Add a new type of equipment slot. Specifically for scout related items.

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How much of the thread did you actually read?

No one suggested anything about "Scout only equipment".

It's because the original post didn't break it down simply enough, so I will here just for clarification's sake. I do NOT support this idea, I instead support the idea of reworking the racial and role bonuses for ALL the suits instead.

So basically you divide equipment into TWO categories based upon size: large and small. A scout would only be able to fit like two smalls, while everyone else would have the same equipment slots that they have now and it would be counted as a large slot.

List of SMALL equipment items that a scout could carry:
compact nano-hive (one instance with no armor repair) = small
compact drop uplink (limited number of spawns) = small
nanite injectors (all of them) = small
scanners (all of them) = small
compact repair tool (reps dropsuits only) = small
compact remote explosive (half damage and area of effect of a normal RE) = small

Then everything else that is not in the above list is counted as a large equipment item and scouts could not use them. However any other suit could use any of the small equipment items because you would be albe to fit either a small OR a large item into a large equipment slot.

Why this is unbalancing? Because it effectively grants scouts a second equipment slot taking away from the purpose of the logistics suit. It also begs the question, why can't I put two small items into a large slot? It means that scouts become less dependent upon team-mates to coordinate and bring in the equipment that they are not providing for themselves.

Don't get me wrong. I fully believe that at some later date there can and should be a version of a light suit (not the scout) that lets you carry two or more equipment items. I just don't believe that the scout suit is it. To clarify that:

Light Suit ===> Scout Suit or Pilot Suit or some other suit (EWAR)? etc.

Medium Suit ===> Assault Suit or Logistics Suit or some other suit (cloaking)? etc.

A scout suit is for scouting and should do that, not become some kinda logistics suit. We already have one of those.