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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:51:00 -
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So I just tested mouse and keyboard to see what's wrong... And guys, it's as good as it's ever going to be at 30 FPS. Playing PC games at 30 FPS is a nightmare with M/K, it feels just like Dust with M/K. The lower frame rate causes a delay in controls, and it's pretty damn noticeable with M/K.
I suspect when the game moves to PS4, M/K will suddenly be amazingly good.
Unless CCP can optimize the game to the point where it runs at 60FPS on the PS3, don't expect much more.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8152
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:53:00 -
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And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. Was not. In this version of the game it's MUCH MUCH more accurate, but has input lag.
Chromo actually held a more stable 30FPS.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
452
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:56:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. I agree - Chromosome was great.
Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:57:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. HOWEVER. I do believe the input lag could be slightly reduced. It's still higher than it should be, even at an unstable 30FPS.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:57:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. I agree - Chromosome was great. Hello my sworn shield. How is the "take over the world in the name of cats" thing going?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8153
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Posted - 2013.12.01 23:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. HOWEVER. I do believe the input lag could be slightly reduced. It's still higher than it should be, even at an unstable 30FPS. You should've tried it in 1.0 to see how bad it really was.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2467
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Posted - 2013.12.01 23:12:00 -
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Cat Merc, I don't need you or anyone else's opinion on the KBM to know that support was at one point great and now is trash.
This is now a Duvolle needs recoil thread BTW.
HellsGÇáorm, Director
Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 23:20:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. HOWEVER. I do believe the input lag could be slightly reduced. It's still higher than it should be, even at an unstable 30FPS. You should've tried it in 1.0 to see how bad it really was. I did. It was awful.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4225
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Posted - 2013.12.01 23:21:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Cat Merc, I don't need you or anyone else's opinion on the KBM to know that support was at one point great and now is trash.
This is now a Duvolle needs recoil thread BTW. It was never great. Sure back in Chromo it had less input lag, but it was HIGHLY inaccurate.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
241
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Posted - 2013.12.02 00:09:00 -
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In Chromosome we had aim friction didn't we?
Now we have no aim assists. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
542
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Posted - 2013.12.02 01:02:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should've tried it in 1.0 to see how bad it really was. I did. It was awful.
I stopped playing from uprising 1.0 to 1.1 basically because of that.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
160
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So I just tested mouse and keyboard to see what's wrong... And guys, it's as good as it's ever going to be at 30 FPS. Playing PC games at 30 FPS is a nightmare with M/K, it feels just like Dust with M/K. The lower frame rate causes a delay in controls, and it's pretty damn noticeable with M/K.
I suspect when the game moves to PS4, M/K will suddenly be amazingly good.
Unless CCP can optimize the game to the point where it runs at 60FPS on the PS3, don't expect much more. I can agree to a point. The problem is that it has gotten worse with every 'improvement'. It was better in closed beta. At least my character didn't, at random start spinning in circles & looking at the sky. Imagine being in the middle of a intense CQC battle, & your controls starts pulling to the left. & it doesn't stop until I let go of the mouse & let it finish. add to that broken sensitivity settings that haven't been touched in at least 3 updates(maybe more). & it's clear that KB/M have been put on the back burner.
There is much more that can be done, but if they fix these issues & add custom bindings i'll be happy. |
Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
282
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:16:00 -
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I'd been wondering about the input lag lately, and I couldn't figure out whether it was really there, or just a placebo effect since I'd heard it existed. I happened to execute a fast, sharp, turn, and noticed that I perceived my hand start moving AND stop completely before I perceived my character executing the turn. Then I did it a bunch more times, and I had absolutely not problem reproducing it. This strikes me as a pretty egregious problem.
RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8169
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:19:00 -
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Gorra Snell wrote:I'd been wondering about the input lag lately, and I couldn't figure out whether it was really there, or just a placebo effect since I'd heard it existed. I happened to execute a fast, sharp, turn, and noticed that I perceived my hand start moving AND stop completely before I perceived my character executing the turn. Then I did it a bunch more times, and I had absolutely not problem reproducing it. This strikes me as a pretty egregious problem. Playing in SD helps a bit, but the lag is still there.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1464
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:25:00 -
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Cat playing with Mouse? I'd bet that was more satisfying than you'd admit.
Cheeseburgers.
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1232
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:50:00 -
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Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
760
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:59:00 -
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Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice!
"It's made with bits of real Gallente. So you know it's good."
-GÇö Brian Fantana paraphrased
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8174
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:38:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! I'd rather have my preferred input device work as intended without having to resort to 3rd party hardware.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1157
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: I suspect when the game moves to PS4.
One can dream...
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1157
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:42:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice!
I have one and it's just so awful to play in ps3 mode....or maybe I'm just not good with mouses.
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
292
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:45:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months.
QFT
And Catmerc sorry your word is not gold and the majority of true kb/m users have quit Dust all together or switched to the controller because of how bad kb/m has become. If CCP takes inexperienced troll comments like yours seriously they should just scrap the kb/m all together btw kb/m was damn near flawless in chromosome so what's the excuse now.. ? |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4236
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:03:00 -
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Gorra Snell wrote:I'd been wondering about the input lag lately, and I couldn't figure out whether it was really there, or just a placebo effect since I'd heard it existed. I happened to execute a fast, sharp, turn, and noticed that I perceived my hand start moving AND stop completely before I perceived my character executing the turn. Then I did it a bunch more times, and I had absolutely not problem reproducing it. This strikes me as a pretty egregious problem. It's easy to test. Do a sharp right to left movement with the mouse. See how long it takes for the game to stop, and how long it takes you to stop.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4236
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:04:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag
I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4236
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:05:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. QFT And Catmerc sorry your word is not gold and the majority of true kb/m users have quit Dust all together or switched to the controller because of how bad kb/m has become. If CCP takes inexperienced troll comments like yours seriously they should just scrap the kb/m all together btw kb/m was damn near flawless in chromosome so what's the excuse now.. ? It was heavily flawed. You guys have nostalgia goggles, get over it.
Chromosome, while it had next to no input lag, was EXTREMELY inaccurate. I could not stand it.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
721
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:19:00 -
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The problem right now is the input lag, and its not only on the mouse movements, it also can be felt when pressing the mouse buttons AND keyboard buttons. I have verified this by playing in 576p, and trying to cook a grenade with either the mouse (macro 'X') or keyboard. When in 720p, it takes a quite long time before you bring up the grenade. When in 576p the grenade appears immidiately. There is a significant difference if you try this. The same effect can be noticed when switching weapons.
Most other issues can be resolved by setting polling rate to 100 or 125 Hz. HW limitations in PS3.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1217
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input.
It has never been anything near amazing, its been ok in chromosone, up to completely horrible at uprising, and being just passeble at 1.6 right now.
Anyone talking about amazing controls in dust somewhere along the lines has NEVER played an FPS game where the controls have been Superb and crisp....
IE: everyone that has never left the console...to play a shooter at high level gameplay...
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:M McManus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. QFT And Catmerc sorry your word is not gold and the majority of true kb/m users have quit Dust all together or switched to the controller because of how bad kb/m has become. If CCP takes inexperienced troll comments like yours seriously they should just scrap the kb/m all together btw kb/m was damn near flawless in chromosome so what's the excuse now.. ? It was heavily flawed. You guys have nostalgia goggles, get over it. Chromosome, while it had next to no input lag, was EXTREMELY inaccurate. I could not stand it.
You're ridiculous every post i read of yours, it's your opinion or none... You have multiple people telling you KB/M is broken beyond input lag and it was some how 10x better in chromosome but yet you still continue to talk about how its so amazing right now and we would have a "practical aimbot" if there was no input lag.. (Unlike the actual aim bot DS3 has right ? )
Do you even read the **** that goes into your posts.. Get over yourself please, I would rather take the multiple people in this posts opinion who have proven their knowledge of kb/m over a full DS3 supporter anyway and if kb/m is so amazing use it buddy don't just test it... Simple as that..
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1226
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:00:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! I have one and it's just so awful to play in ps3 mode....or maybe I'm just not good with mouses.
I really wonder how i would fare using one of those Frag Fx's seeing i can make the current KBM work so well that people send me fanmail about my aim assist & turbo buttons, cant help but think how awseme it would be with added AA lol...
Aaaaand then i went and checked the price on those s*ckers .......and ill say f*ck that ...
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
722
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:12:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! I have one and it's just so awful to play in ps3 mode....or maybe I'm just not good with mouses. I really wonder how i would fare using one of those Frag Fx's seeing i can make the current KBM work so well that people send me fanmail about my aim assist & turbo buttons, cant help but think how awseme it would be with added AA lol... Aaaaand then i went and checked the price on those s*ckers .......and ill say f*ck that ...
You can get a GIMX to abuse aim assist: http://blog.gimx.fr/
xD
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1227
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:19:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! I have one and it's just so awful to play in ps3 mode....or maybe I'm just not good with mouses. I really wonder how i would fare using one of those Frag Fx's seeing i can make the current KBM work so well that people send me fanmail about my aim assist & turbo buttons, cant help but think how awseme it would be with added AA lol... Aaaaand then i went and checked the price on those s*ckers .......and ill say f*ck that ... You can get a GIMX to abuse aim assist: http://blog.gimx.fr/xD
Meh dont feel like frying something :p
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1293
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:41:00 -
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The Unholy trinity of shooters: Low framerate, variable framerate, and input lag.
DUST is possessed by them all. The Reverened Wolfman is not finished with his exorcisms.
As far as controls, both DS3 and KB/M need love, but KB/M needs it more.
I support SP rollover.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1293
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:42:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Cat playing with Mouse? I'd bet that was more satisfying than you'd admit. He's got a thing for their skinny little tails. Shameful, really.
I support SP rollover.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
455
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. I agree - Chromosome was great. Hello my sworn shield. How is the "take over the world in the name of cats" thing going?
I have raided a couple of villages and found some kind of ancient artifact - https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRp0V4eot3bBIPkm__Oloko-tvJT5lPPNqDOY29Nc2qONvFwBK1 we could pain paint in - a golden lion on a crimson field.
Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4237
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:44:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Excellent.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1242
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot.
Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4238
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:21:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that.
Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Ridire Greine
193
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:22:00 -
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It feels like none of my bullets hit when using the KB/M.
Its as if hit detection is broken again.
My DUST Experience
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
201
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:28:00 -
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im not asking for the kb/m to be better than the DS3 controller, im just asking it be almost equal. Ive died soo many times to me spinning around in circles or my merc just jerk hard in one direction. Ive tried using the controller but can't get used to it. This is my first FPS game and my first game on the ps3..... Odd though i use the controller to fly but Ce est le vie (sp?)
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1242
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. Anecdotal made-up statistics. You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up.
Go play with a M/KB in a CQC scenario and marvel as a DS3 user with a Militia Assault Rifle out damages you as you both do the silly strafe n spray tactic. His gun will magically track you because DS3 users are just so good at tracking.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4239
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:36:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. Anecdotal made-up statistics. You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up. Go play with a M/KB in a CQC scenario and marvel as a DS3 user with a Militia Assault Rifle out damages you as you both do the silly strafe n spray tactic. His gun will magically track you because DS3 users are just so good at tracking. "You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up." Am I really? As someone who played Counter Strike for god knows how many years, and became good enough to do just what I described, I think not. While yes I played many years, I also played many years with the DS3 and I'm not nearly as proficient, even with aim assist.
The fact that Dust has a fuckton of input lag doesn't change how overwhelmingly good M/K can be compared to DS3 if done right. So you telling me to go play now doesn't mean anything other than that Dust has input lag.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
162
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:42:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! The XIM would be a better option. I have used the Aimon PS & FragNstein in the past.
But in game support is far more balanced than 3rd party options, no matter what anyone wants to believe. Because if I choose to plug in my Aimon again, I will not only be able to get more precise mouse aiming, but also take advantage of DS3 aim assist. At least CCP has a modicum of control over how the different input devices operate in game. When Dust added mouse support I put down my Aimon & never looked back. But since 1.4's 'improvements' mouse control has gotten worse. & if it's not addressed by early next year, I'll likely be getting a XIM & deal with it on my own. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
298
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game.
No one said anything about AA not existing and kb/m in its current state vs even non aimbot pre-1.4 Ds3 DS3 would win hands down.. I really don't think its only input lag and fps hurting the kb/m there has got to be some sort of emulation script that makes the mouse feel like your aiming underwater, acceleration etc..
DS3 can keep AA, but CCP needs to improve the current mouse setup or revert mouse aiming back to chromosome.. I guess since you're the only one who thinks it wasn't good, then maybe you can make a new post telling everyone it's as good as it's gonna get once it has improved... Because that comment alone is ignorant when the very same input you're judging was useable at one point.. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4239
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:54:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. No one said anything about AA not existing and kb/m in its current state vs even non aimbot pre-1.4 Ds3 DS3 would win hands down.. I really don't think its only input lag and fps hurting the kb/m there has got to be some sort of emulation script that makes the mouse feel like your aiming underwater, acceleration etc.. DS3 can keep AA, but CCP needs to improve the current mouse setup or revert mouse aiming back to chromosome.. I guess since you're the only one who thinks it wasn't good, then maybe you can make a new post telling everyone it's as good as it's gonna get once it has improved... Because that comment alone is ignorant when the very same input you're judging was useable at one point.. It was USEABLE but it was bad. It was highly inaccurate and not even close to what M/K can do.
I prefer CCP go forward with what they have than revert to what it was.
Besides, they probably can't use it, CCP had to rewrite a lot of systems with Uprising and aiming was one of them. The code is probably not compatiable.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4241
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:12:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks.
I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:22:00 -
[47] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
Do the experiment I described earlier and you will understand how much input lag CCPs kbm emulation has. Its quite incredibly huge. You wont notice it with DS3 because you are not using the emulated keyboard and mouse then......
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:26:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was nowhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome's M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick..
It is input lag.... have you even tried kbm post uprising??
Also. There is a difference between kbm and ds3, kbm has hardware emulation which, if implemented poorly, adds processing time on the input====input lag.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:29:00 -
[49] - Quote
Im gonna record a video to show exactly what I mean.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
163
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4. |
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
I agree but I really don't think that's input lag.. I could be wrong or its a mixture of the ****** emulation and input lag all I'm saying is its not "just" input lag its something I believe CCP can/should fix that's why we shouldn't say this is "as good as it's going to get".. Because I don't care how good muscle memory is there is no way I personally could "get used to this versions quirks" I think a lot of others feel the same way..
You say in one post this is it, then you say in another you want CCP to move forward, which is it? Regardless of anyone's feelings on it I think CCP knows they need to improve it .... (I hope) |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
57
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:33:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4.
There are still people that don't know that we all play on the same Server cluster as EVE players in London, England?
There are no other server locations except the Tranquility server. (except test servers and the Chinese server Serenity) |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
166
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:36:00 -
[53] - Quote
Talryn Vilneram wrote:DTOracle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4. There are still people that don't know that we all play on the same Server cluster as EVE players in London, England? There are no other server locations except the Tranquility server. (except test servers and the Chinese server Serenity) You are mistaken, as the actual matches occur on battle servers that are located throughout the world. You can even select which one you prefer to connect to. I can't believe their are still people who did not know this. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4245
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:41:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I agree but I really don't think that's input lag.. I could be wrong or its a mixture of the ****** emulation and input lag all I'm saying is its not "just" input lag its something I believe CCP can/should fix that's why we shouldn't say this is "as good as it's going to get".. Because I don't care how good muscle memory is there is no way I personally could "get used to this versions quirks" I think a lot of others feel the same way.. You say in one post this is it, then you say in another you want CCP to move forward, which is it? Regardless of anyone's feelings on it I think CCP knows they need to improve it .... (I hope) By move forward I mean use what they have and build upon it. Rather than scrap it and go to the old version like people want.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8198
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4247
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger. All weapons in this game (with the exception of single shot weapons) have this...
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
594
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:24:00 -
[57] - Quote
I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8199
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger. All weapons in this game (with the exception of single shot weapons) have this... That shows how inexperienced they are as a developer.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4247
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:45:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
668
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:01:00 -
[60] - Quote
Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising.
+1 I've experienced this almost to the exact, you can aim left and right (point to point) small movements and its very inconsistent you can especially feel this in CQC its like an anti-aim assist... |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4250
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
bolsh lee wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. +1 I've experienced this almost to the exact, you can aim left and right (point to point) small movements and its very inconsistent you can especially feel this in CQC its like an anti-aim assist... I don't see it. What kind of mouse are you using? Are you using mouse smoothing?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2472
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:41:00 -
[62] - Quote
If you don't see it you aren't qualified to be making threads on how CCP should handle KBM support.
HellsGÇáorm, Director
Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4250
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:45:00 -
[63] - Quote
Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:If you don't see it you aren't qualified to be making threads on how CCP should handle KBM support.
You do understand it could be a specific issue related to some specific mice? Or maybe my specific mouse doesn't have that issue?
I would see it if it existed.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
595
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:52:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all. I use a Logitech G700 ... Logitech are notoriously plug and play with any system they give good solid results across the board. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4250
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:57:00 -
[65] - Quote
Needless Sacermendor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all. I use a Logitech G700 ... Logitech are notoriously plug and play with any system they give good solid results across the board. Hmm... I am using a crapola Logitech M180 (not really a PC gamer for a few years now, so I don't need a good mouse) and I don't have this issue. How much DPI does your mouse have?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
595
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:34:00 -
[66] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Hmm... I am using a crapola Logitech M180 (not really a PC gamer for a few years now, so I don't need a good mouse) and I don't have this issue. How much DPI does your mouse have? Anything up to 5,700 ... I'm wondering if it's anything to do with this polling rate someone mentioned the PS3 only being able to handle 100-125 ... this thing polls at up to 1000 which is where I've had it set ... I'll try this out later. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
669
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
Razer Naga all different polling rates all different sensitivities even tried to use my wifes lady bug mouse defualt 800dpi still the same damn thing..
CCPs emulation sucks, simple as that.... |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4267
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:46:00 -
[68] - Quote
bolsh lee wrote:Razer Naga all different polling rates all different sensitivities even tried to use my wifes lady bug mouse defualt 800dpi still the same damn thing..
CCPs emulation sucks, simple as that.... huh... Gonna have to double check that.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
948
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:31:00 -
[69] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all. I use a Logitech G700 ... Logitech are notoriously plug and play with any system they give good solid results across the board. Hmm... I am using a crapola Logitech M180 (not really a PC gamer for a few years now, so I don't need a good mouse) and I don't have this issue. How much DPI does your mouse have? What a joke! How can you state any opinions widen you are using a Walmart mouse. WTF
So about those vehicle locks...
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4274
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:48:00 -
[70] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all. I use a Logitech G700 ... Logitech are notoriously plug and play with any system they give good solid results across the board. Hmm... I am using a crapola Logitech M180 (not really a PC gamer for a few years now, so I don't need a good mouse) and I don't have this issue. How much DPI does your mouse have? What a joke! How can you state any opinions widen you are using a Walmart mouse. WTF Sorry? I was beating people left and right when I played counter strike a month ago for nostalgia's sake with that mouse. I was banned from 3 servers for cheating. It does it's job.
I had a G500 but it got broken. I didn't see the need in getting a gaming mouse so I just got this.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Darken-Sol
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A cat toying with a mouse, how original |
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