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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:19:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! I have one and it's just so awful to play in ps3 mode....or maybe I'm just not good with mouses. I really wonder how i would fare using one of those Frag Fx's seeing i can make the current KBM work so well that people send me fanmail about my aim assist & turbo buttons, cant help but think how awseme it would be with added AA lol... Aaaaand then i went and checked the price on those s*ckers .......and ill say f*ck that ... You can get a GIMX to abuse aim assist: http://blog.gimx.fr/xD
Meh dont feel like frying something :p
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1293
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:41:00 -
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The Unholy trinity of shooters: Low framerate, variable framerate, and input lag.
DUST is possessed by them all. The Reverened Wolfman is not finished with his exorcisms.
As far as controls, both DS3 and KB/M need love, but KB/M needs it more.
I support SP rollover.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1293
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:42:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Cat playing with Mouse? I'd bet that was more satisfying than you'd admit. He's got a thing for their skinny little tails. Shameful, really.
I support SP rollover.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
455
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Cosgar wrote:And somehow kb/m was amazing before Uprising despite not even having raw input. I agree - Chromosome was great. Hello my sworn shield. How is the "take over the world in the name of cats" thing going?
I have raided a couple of villages and found some kind of ancient artifact - https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRp0V4eot3bBIPkm__Oloko-tvJT5lPPNqDOY29Nc2qONvFwBK1 we could pain paint in - a golden lion on a crimson field.
Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4237
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:44:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Excellent.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1242
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot.
Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4238
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:21:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that.
Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Ridire Greine
193
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:22:00 -
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It feels like none of my bullets hit when using the KB/M.
Its as if hit detection is broken again.
My DUST Experience
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
201
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:28:00 -
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im not asking for the kb/m to be better than the DS3 controller, im just asking it be almost equal. Ive died soo many times to me spinning around in circles or my merc just jerk hard in one direction. Ive tried using the controller but can't get used to it. This is my first FPS game and my first game on the ps3..... Odd though i use the controller to fly but Ce est le vie (sp?)
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
1242
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. Anecdotal made-up statistics. You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up.
Go play with a M/KB in a CQC scenario and marvel as a DS3 user with a Militia Assault Rifle out damages you as you both do the silly strafe n spray tactic. His gun will magically track you because DS3 users are just so good at tracking.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4239
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:36:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. Anecdotal made-up statistics. You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up. Go play with a M/KB in a CQC scenario and marvel as a DS3 user with a Militia Assault Rifle out damages you as you both do the silly strafe n spray tactic. His gun will magically track you because DS3 users are just so good at tracking. "You're talking out of complete ignorance and acting as if M/KB is automatic god mode for anyone who picks it up." Am I really? As someone who played Counter Strike for god knows how many years, and became good enough to do just what I described, I think not. While yes I played many years, I also played many years with the DS3 and I'm not nearly as proficient, even with aim assist.
The fact that Dust has a fuckton of input lag doesn't change how overwhelmingly good M/K can be compared to DS3 if done right. So you telling me to go play now doesn't mean anything other than that Dust has input lag.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
162
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:42:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Buy the Frag FX Shark and rejoice! The XIM would be a better option. I have used the Aimon PS & FragNstein in the past.
But in game support is far more balanced than 3rd party options, no matter what anyone wants to believe. Because if I choose to plug in my Aimon again, I will not only be able to get more precise mouse aiming, but also take advantage of DS3 aim assist. At least CCP has a modicum of control over how the different input devices operate in game. When Dust added mouse support I put down my Aimon & never looked back. But since 1.4's 'improvements' mouse control has gotten worse. & if it's not addressed by early next year, I'll likely be getting a XIM & deal with it on my own. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
298
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game.
No one said anything about AA not existing and kb/m in its current state vs even non aimbot pre-1.4 Ds3 DS3 would win hands down.. I really don't think its only input lag and fps hurting the kb/m there has got to be some sort of emulation script that makes the mouse feel like your aiming underwater, acceleration etc..
DS3 can keep AA, but CCP needs to improve the current mouse setup or revert mouse aiming back to chromosome.. I guess since you're the only one who thinks it wasn't good, then maybe you can make a new post telling everyone it's as good as it's gonna get once it has improved... Because that comment alone is ignorant when the very same input you're judging was useable at one point.. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4239
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:54:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Input lag, framerate lag, and competing with aim assist in sub-30 FPS game makes it not even worth it. It's ok in pubs but don't even bother in PC unless you're Forge Gunning or sniping.
It's the reason I stopped playing PC. Aim assist simply outclasses me when the game is a almost a full second behind me in terms of input.
Seriously, **** aim assist and **** CCP. I'm so bitter about how bad they ****** over M/KB in the past few months. Yeah, blame aim assist, it's totally not the massive input lag I can tell it's the most accurate it ever was, if it wasn't for the input lag, you'd have practical aim bot compared to DS3's. I'm sorry but no. Accurate, precise input is not aim bot. Aim bot is having the game do the aiming for you (like aim assist, but more extreme). If someone with M/KB is constantly hitting you, that's attributed to their own ability not the game holding your hand like the pathetic AA does. By practical aim bot I meant that you could track a target and land perfect headshots 99% of the time. AA doesn't do that. Also, if AA didn't exist and M/K had no input lag, DS3 users would have no place in this game. No one said anything about AA not existing and kb/m in its current state vs even non aimbot pre-1.4 Ds3 DS3 would win hands down.. I really don't think its only input lag and fps hurting the kb/m there has got to be some sort of emulation script that makes the mouse feel like your aiming underwater, acceleration etc.. DS3 can keep AA, but CCP needs to improve the current mouse setup or revert mouse aiming back to chromosome.. I guess since you're the only one who thinks it wasn't good, then maybe you can make a new post telling everyone it's as good as it's gonna get once it has improved... Because that comment alone is ignorant when the very same input you're judging was useable at one point.. It was USEABLE but it was bad. It was highly inaccurate and not even close to what M/K can do.
I prefer CCP go forward with what they have than revert to what it was.
Besides, they probably can't use it, CCP had to rewrite a lot of systems with Uprising and aiming was one of them. The code is probably not compatiable.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:07:00 -
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Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4241
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:12:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks.
I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
Do the experiment I described earlier and you will understand how much input lag CCPs kbm emulation has. Its quite incredibly huge. You wont notice it with DS3 because you are not using the emulated keyboard and mouse then......
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:26:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was nowhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome's M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick..
It is input lag.... have you even tried kbm post uprising??
Also. There is a difference between kbm and ds3, kbm has hardware emulation which, if implemented poorly, adds processing time on the input====input lag.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:29:00 -
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Im gonna record a video to show exactly what I mean.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
163
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4. |
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
667
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react.
I agree but I really don't think that's input lag.. I could be wrong or its a mixture of the ****** emulation and input lag all I'm saying is its not "just" input lag its something I believe CCP can/should fix that's why we shouldn't say this is "as good as it's going to get".. Because I don't care how good muscle memory is there is no way I personally could "get used to this versions quirks" I think a lot of others feel the same way..
You say in one post this is it, then you say in another you want CCP to move forward, which is it? Regardless of anyone's feelings on it I think CCP knows they need to improve it .... (I hope) |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
57
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:33:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4.
There are still people that don't know that we all play on the same Server cluster as EVE players in London, England?
There are no other server locations except the Tranquility server. (except test servers and the Chinese server Serenity) |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
166
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:36:00 -
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Talryn Vilneram wrote:DTOracle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I personally, would like to do more tests when I can login. But from my observations, I have noticed that perceived 'input lag' can vary greatly from match to match. Likely based on which battle server you are playing on. I often play with guys in Europe & Oceania, & have notice more instances of games with delayed reactions & sluggish controls when playing with them, than running solo. This is does not always happen however, which makes me think it's a server side issue or just an effect of increased latency in general. Either way general latency did not have such dramatic effects on controls prior to 1.4. There are still people that don't know that we all play on the same Server cluster as EVE players in London, England? There are no other server locations except the Tranquility server. (except test servers and the Chinese server Serenity) You are mistaken, as the actual matches occur on battle servers that are located throughout the world. You can even select which one you prefer to connect to. I can't believe their are still people who did not know this. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4245
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:41:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Cat Merc wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Cat I think it's time for you to tap out..
I have to agree with these guys you're reaching pretty hard here to stay in the fight I'm not sure how long you "tested" the M/KB in chromosome but it was notwhere near "bad", ask anyone in RND. I was surgical with chromosome M/KB I've only been able to hold my own as of uprising becuase I bit the bullet and swiched to DS3, dat aim assist ftw... (which hurt my soul doing so)
And I also have to agree you can't say input lag and FPS is M/KB's problem if that was the case I would be just as bad tracking and straffing targets with DS3 even with aimbot, trust me I've played with a fair share of lag throughout my PC Gaming days. This is not lag the M/KB is struggling with, I believe its something internal that CCP needs to figure out quick.. You became surgical with it because you got used to it's quirks. Back in early Uprising, the aiming with DS3 was terribad, but I got used to it overtime, since my brain automatically corrected for it's quirks. I can tell the current M/K is accurate, just has a fuckton of input lag. Swipe it left to right and see how long it takes for the game to react. I agree but I really don't think that's input lag.. I could be wrong or its a mixture of the ****** emulation and input lag all I'm saying is its not "just" input lag its something I believe CCP can/should fix that's why we shouldn't say this is "as good as it's going to get".. Because I don't care how good muscle memory is there is no way I personally could "get used to this versions quirks" I think a lot of others feel the same way.. You say in one post this is it, then you say in another you want CCP to move forward, which is it? Regardless of anyone's feelings on it I think CCP knows they need to improve it .... (I hope) By move forward I mean use what they have and build upon it. Rather than scrap it and go to the old version like people want.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8198
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:48:00 -
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What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4247
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:01:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger. All weapons in this game (with the exception of single shot weapons) have this...
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
594
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:24:00 -
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I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8199
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:What's the point? CCP is just going to say it's "mechanically intended" just like the AR having 0 recoil when you mash the trigger. All weapons in this game (with the exception of single shot weapons) have this... That shows how inexperienced they are as a developer.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:45:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising. Huh... What kind of mouse are you using? I did not experience this at all.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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bolsh lee
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:01:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:I'm no FPS vet or game dev or anything ... but my experience with KBM I find it just moves of it's own accord ... I can point at a dot, move the mouse right enough that would maybe move the pointer a couple of pixels and the pointer seems to do what it wants, jumping 20 pixels up and to the left rather than a few pixels to the right.
I don't think that could be down to input lag since the only input I've given is a small move to the right and the response I get is a large movement in the opposite direction with added vertical movement.
It seems more like the game is trying to push your aim off, like the opposite of an aim assist, more like when you try to push magnets together with the same pole facing each other and they skew away from each other.
That's my experience anyway ... and part of the reason I've hardly played since Uprising.
+1 I've experienced this almost to the exact, you can aim left and right (point to point) small movements and its very inconsistent you can especially feel this in CQC its like an anti-aim assist... |
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