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8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 890	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:36:00 - [1] - Quote Why the can't I have a LOCK on my HAV! Do you really think its funny CCP to make it so you can troll a teammate who spent countless hours, SP, and ISK to build something? Check your sense of humor... Because I have a funnier joke: It's called DUST 514 and everyone who works at CCP. Now there is a joke everyone is laughing at WORLDWIDE!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 648	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:38:00 - [2] - Quote I am right now infact
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2604	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:39:00 - [3] - Quote 8213 wrote: Why the can't I have a LOCK on my HAV! Do you really think its funny CCP to make it so you can troll a teammate who spent countless hours, SP, and ISK to build something? Check your sense of humor... Because I have a funnier joke: It's called DUST 514 and everyone who works at CCP. Now there is a joke everyone is laughing at WORLDWIDE! Another....Tank...QQ....Thread...... SRSLY. Please Support my Active Scanner Thread HERE ==> X
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8163	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:52:00 - [4] - Quote I got a tip: don't die Read / Vid / Stream
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 648	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:57:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I got a tip: don't die I promise I will never die
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2567	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote I thought they were adding a 15 second lock in 1.7? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 45	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:03:00 - [7] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I thought they were adding a 15 second lock in 1.7? 15 seconds, the initial drop isnt the problem. it's later when you're want to grab a different tank or theres just too much breach forge gun out there.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 891	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:04:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I thought they were adding a 15 second lock in 1.7? That's not a lock. It's a timer. I want a LOCK, not a delay counter. And Mr. Fiend, I didn't die. I jumped out to set a squad order, and the blueberry spawned in and took my HAV instantly. I got on the TEAM VOICE and even asked him to please get out... no he drove right into AV. I personally don't think its funny that a product of me working over YEAR on this game can go to waste like that.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 648	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:06:00 - [9] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I thought they were adding a 15 second lock in 1.7? 15 seconds, the initial drop isnt the problem. it's later when you're want to grab a different tank or theres just too much breach forge gun out there. I just drive out into the red line and blow up. I'll never let afucken blueberry drive my tank.
Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:07:00 - [10] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I thought they were adding a 15 second lock in 1.7? reading about future updates is a joke too.

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 576	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:07:00 - [11] - Quote I thought they said they were going to add that, but the delay was like a placeholder? My logi-code.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3904	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:30:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: Why the can't I have a LOCK on my HAV! Do you really think its funny CCP to make it so you can troll a teammate who spent countless hours, SP, and ISK to build something? Check your sense of humor... Because I have a funnier joke: It's called DUST 514 and everyone who works at CCP. Now there is a joke everyone is laughing at WORLDWIDE! Didn't you read the DevBlog? Vehicle locking is a feature in 1.7 coming on December 10th. Chill the **** out. Your vehicle will be locked to only allow you as the driver for 15 seconds, and to only allow your squadmates into secondary positions for 5. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:08:00 - [13] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: 8213 wrote: Why the can't I have a LOCK on my HAV! Do you really think its funny CCP to make it so you can troll a teammate who spent countless hours, SP, and ISK to build something? Check your sense of humor... Because I have a funnier joke: It's called DUST 514 and everyone who works at CCP. Now there is a joke everyone is laughing at WORLDWIDE! Didn't you read the DevBlog? Vehicle locking is a feature in 1.7 coming on December 10th. Chill the **** out. Your vehicle will be locked to only allow you as the driver for 15 seconds, and to only allow your squadmates into secondary positions for 5. Oh my God. That's not a fcking lock. That's a delay counter. I want to be able to flat out lock the thing until I decide to unlock it. How do you keep random blueberries from jumping in AFTER the 15 seconds. The 15 seconds is only when you call it in. Say it with me "L-O-C-K" If I jump out of my HAV, I don't want anybody getting in it. If I want to recall it, I don't want to have to worry about a random blueberry idiot still in my HAV. I have spent HOURS(that translate to days/months) of my time and patients learning something as ISK heavy as HAVs, but some random blueberry scrub can just jump in my HAV and get a free ride, because he doesn't have to pay for it. HAVs need LOCKS. We have been saying this for 2 fcking years, and CCP will not do it, because they think it's funny to waste their player's time. We have enough grief in this game from the fact that it doesn't work for sh*t, it doesn't need more purposely built into it. Something as simple as a vehicle lock is perfect evidence that CCP could care less about their playerbase, or that they even know what they are doing in the first place. WE have more experience in FPS than THEM, they should be listening to US.
Rogue Saint Science For Death 533	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:16:00 - [14] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I promise I will never die But you do lose a lot of clones and then cry that "We were running BPO".... GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 889	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:20:00 - [15] - Quote 8213 is right. Vehicle Lock shoud be simple to implement yet I've witnessed 18 month wait for it - and still going. Temporary delay timer for delivery isn't lock, though it addresses the most blatant cases of vehicle stealing (and accidents as well!) King Checkmate, this is not really tank qq. It goes for any vehicle, and even when condisering tanks it's not about their power but whether you have control of your 'suit' or not. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:21:00 - [16] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I promise I will never die But you do lose a lot of clones and then cry that "We were running BPO".... Whoa, buddy. Keep the thread on topic. Don't need to bring in a Corp feud. Your corp is good, and so is ours. I don't know what you guys think during a game, but normally we just grind for ISK and f*ck around. We're not ones to protostomp... unless severely provoked.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10897	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:22:00 - [17] - Quote /me Trolls by summoning all the LAVs. Locked of course. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Rogue Saint Science For Death 533	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:25:00 - [18] - Quote 8213 wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I promise I will never die But you do lose a lot of clones and then cry that "We were running BPO".... Whoa, buddy. Keep the thread on topic. Don't need to bring in a Corp feud. Your corp is good, and so is ours. I don't know what you guys think during a game, but normally we just grind for ISK and f*ck around. We're not ones to protostomp... unless severely provoked. I'm sorry, I just can't resist when I see your guys posting... Back on topic, please CCP add a real vehicle lock!! We really do need it. is that OK? GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:26:00 - [19] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: 8213 is right. Vehicle Lock shoud be simple to implement yet I've witnessed 18 month wait for it - and still going. Temporary delay timer for delivery isn't lock, though it addresses the most blatant cases of vehicle stealing (and accidents as well!) King Checkmate, this is not really tank qq. It goes for any vehicle, and even when condisering tanks it's not about their power but whether you have control of your 'suit' or not. Exactly, we skill into vehicles like other people skill into suits. How would someone like it if a blueberry could just walk up and take your Duvolle, while you're calling in an OB or creating a squad order, right out of your hands and get a free pass to use something expensive. Sounds foolish when you put it that way, but for some reason people can't translate it to HAVs.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4196	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:27:00 - [20] - Quote How original. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

ovary obliterator Red Star. EoN. 42	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:27:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /me Trolls by summoning all the LAVs. Locked of course. productive cpm
Rogue Saint Science For Death 534	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:28:00 - [22] - Quote We have said many times before that vehicles should be the same in EvE with respect to skills. If you don't have the skills you can't drive/fly it... GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 890	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:31:00 - [23] - Quote Examples of need to step out of vehicle: These are valid most of all for LAVs and HAVs. - Setting uplinks (or other EQ for your team) - Repairing by hand tool minor scratches or emergency repair after catastrophic damage - Recalling vehicle when not needed - Stepping out to hack an objective - To do a hand scan - To call down a Strike - Third method of setting a sq order (as normal method is bugged) LAV: - Using LAV as cover to engage reds with hand weapons On each case you have to carefully consider whether you can do those basic things, fact is that random blueberry is a BIGGER threat than enemy AV as such! Thank goodness they can't forcibly throw you out of your own driver's seat... Just yesterday, I parked my LLAV on flank of reds to support our boys making the real push. I was gunning on reds, with LLAV being my only protection while reds realised I was a threat with my tac rifle. As 3-5 reds turned on me... My LLAV became blue and accelerated away. To try murder taxiing - badly. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:33:00 - [24] - Quote ovary obliterator wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /me Trolls by summoning all the LAVs. Locked of course. productive cpm Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Either way conditions I would accept it as a normal feature 1 A blueberry can still hack your vehicle to obtain control, this prevents vehicle capping trolls. Regardless of lock status or not. Said blueberry has to be out of the vehicle though, and no occupancy in the driver seat. 2 RDVs should pick up recalled vehicles regardless of whose in it. Emphasis on RDV portion. Only 'owner' can recall. 3. Any owner that recalls a vehicle gets it added to his assets. 4. Has to be easily accessible control on the field, not something done before going into match. Probably barrow the squad order button once you exit the vehicle or not in it yet. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Rogue Saint Science For Death 534	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:35:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Essentially no, but you can't board a ship you don't have the skills for. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:36:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ovary obliterator wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /me Trolls by summoning all the LAVs. Locked of course. productive cpm Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Either way conditions I would accept it as a normal feature 1 A blueberry can still hack your vehicle to obtain control, this prevents vehicle capping trolls. Regardless of lock status or not. Said blueberry has to be out of the vehicle though, and no occupancy in the driver seat. 2 RDVs should pick up recalled vehicles regardless of whose in it. Emphasis on RDV portion. Only 'owner' can recall. 3. Any owner that recalls a vehicle gets it added to his assets. 4. Has to be easily accessible control on the field, not something done before going into match. Probably barrow the squad order button once you exit the vehicle or not in it yet. All good ideas... but CCP simply doesn't listen anymore.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10898	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:36:00 - [27] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Essentially no, but you can't board a ship you don't have the skills for. Thing is most ship thieves of that nature have ALL the skills needed to board. They certainly don't go after victims in ships they themselves cannot fly. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 890	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:41:00 - [28] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Essentially no, but you can't board a ship you don't have the skills for. And it's a rare case an Eve pilot would leave their ship. Meaning as there are no people voluntarily ejecting from their ships there are no pilots flying in shuttles to find one. In Eve you do things in your ship, not your pod. Even when ship gets blown and yes you find yourself in pod, it is not realistic that any friendly/other player would have accidentally clicked 'eject' button to steal the ship from- Entirely different game, no need to create an analogy there in this case. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
Rogue Saint Science For Death 534	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:43:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Eve doesn't have vehicle locks at all btw :P Essentially no, but you can't board a ship you don't have the skills for. Thing is most ship thieves of that nature have ALL the skills needed to board. They certainly don't go after victims in ships they themselves cannot fly. The reality is, there is very little ship thievery in EvE, my point is still valid though, skill based locks in addition to a higher level of locking (personal/squad etc.) is needed. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 890	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:58:00 - [30] - Quote I'm correcting myself a little. There is one area of ship thievery. In-corp ship thieves who are most likely infiltrators who have gained access to Starbase force field bubble and find parked ships withing the protection of forcefield from all hostiles. The thing is corp members aren't hostiles as such, and therefore this is a metagame of it's own. Which would be welcome to Dust as well. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:



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