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KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2538	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 633	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:37:00 - [2] - Quote Amarr scout will follow the smart trend and be the slowest scout. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2538	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:39:00 - [3] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Amarr scout will follow the smart trend and be the slowest scout. At 7.1 SPRT speed.it IS the SLOWEST SCOUT. It would be the FASTEST MOVEMENT SPEED in the game.Its a different story. It leaves Armor tanking being a possibility without loosing in Movement speed vs Med frames or be a powerful CQ Fighter. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:43:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zekain K wrote: Amarr scout will follow the smart trend and be the slowest scout. At 7.1 SPRT speed.it IS the SLOWEST SCOUT. It would be the FASTEST MOVEMENT SPEED in the game.Its a different story. It leaves Armor tanking being a possibility without loosing in Movement speed vs Med frames or be a powerful CQ Fighter. Gal scout ftw you filthy amarr and caldari scum Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2538	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:44:00 - [5] - Quote Mdog 24158 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zekain K wrote: Amarr scout will follow the smart trend and be the slowest scout. At 7.1 SPRT speed.it IS the SLOWEST SCOUT. It would be the FASTEST MOVEMENT SPEED in the game.Its a different story. It leaves Armor tanking being a possibility without loosing in Movement speed vs Med frames or be a powerful CQ Fighter. Gal scout ftw you filthy amarr and caldari scum I cry a little everytime i have to use one of your armor tanked discusting Pirate Stripper Scout suits. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Dr3K Nazionali Senza Filtro 18	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:44:00 - [6] - Quote I'd like to have a Cal scout like this: Caldari Scout Ck.0 GÖª250 CPU GÖª60 PG GÖª3H GÖª2L GÖª70 Armor GÖª130 Shield GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖª Speed 7.63 GÖªMovement Speed 5.45 GÖªStamina 200 GÖªShield recharge rate 45 GÖªShield delay 4 GÖªShield depleted delay 6 bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Caldari Scout -5% Fitting CPU Shield Recharging
Llast 326 An Arkhos 604	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:47:00 - [7] - Quote As it stands you wil likely only get 4 slots total at protoGÇª Which really sucks. All Scouts need an extra slot. Amarr at standard would be 2 slots, 3 at ADV, and 4 at ProtoGÇª not cool, 3/4/5 is doable we have that in the existing suits and it can work, but if the Amarr follow the pattern, this is not going to be a viable suit. I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 508	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:53:00 - [8] - Quote Personally I think the Amarr should get 2 equip slots at least at proto or maybe adv. If it's really going to be the battle/ewar scout, need to drop some imperial uplinks and RE behind enemy lines. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2541	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:53:00 - [9] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: As it stands you wil likely only get 4 slots total at protoGÇª Which really sucks. All Scouts need an extra slot. Amarr at standard would be 2 slots, 3 at ADV, and 4 at ProtoGÇª not cool, 3/4/5 is doable we have that in the existing suits and it can work, but if the Amarr follow the pattern, this is not going to be a viable suit. Agreed. This amarr scout is probable viale in a world where Mk.0 has 3 L 3 H, The Gallente has 2 H 4 L .... That gives +1 H to our friend's Dr3K Caldari scout up there.... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Morathi III Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:56:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Llast 326 wrote: As it stands you wil likely only get 4 slots total at protoGÇª Which really sucks. All Scouts need an extra slot. Amarr at standard would be 2 slots, 3 at ADV, and 4 at ProtoGÇª not cool, 3/4/5 is doable we have that in the existing suits and it can work, but if the Amarr follow the pattern, this is not going to be a viable suit. Agreed. This amarr scout is probable viale in a world where Mk.0 has 3 L 3 H, The Gallente has 2 H 4 L .... That gives +1 H to our friend's Dr3K Caldari scout up there.... No, your amarr scout will have 2h/2L, amarr always get 1 slot less and he dont have 2 equipment if the other scout dont have it, until they fix other scout suit , that will come in 2014

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2544	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:00:00 - [11] - Quote Morathi III wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Llast 326 wrote: As it stands you wil likely only get 4 slots total at protoGÇª Which really sucks. All Scouts need an extra slot. Amarr at standard would be 2 slots, 3 at ADV, and 4 at ProtoGÇª not cool, 3/4/5 is doable we have that in the existing suits and it can work, but if the Amarr follow the pattern, this is not going to be a viable suit. Agreed. This amarr scout is probable viale in a world where Mk.0 has 3 L 3 H, The Gallente has 2 H 4 L .... That gives +1 H to our friend's Dr3K Caldari scout up there.... No, your amarr scout will have 2h/2L, amarr always get 1 slot less and he dont have 2 equipment if the other scout dont have it, until they fix other scout suit , that will come in 2014 Thats what im saying. This Scout is in a world where hopefully Scouts have 6 slots instead of 5. There by the Amarr Scout would have 5 slots. BTW, whats your problem? So you want us to have less Slots same as everything else, then i want 60+ HP than every other suit, plus Logi calss SPU-PG plus 300 Stamina LOL The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:05:00 - [12] - Quote Caldari scout ck0 will likely have 4 highs 1 low to compliment the gk0 1 high 4 lows. They will have shields and armor opposite to that of the gallente and the same speed/stamina as well as probably similar CPU/PG. Not sure about racial scout bonus - something ewar-y I guess but precision is pointless, scan range is already gallente and there isn't really any other ewar yet. Amarr have slowest speed but highest stamina and most base eHP. Going by the current 5 slot set up, the ak0 will be 2 highs 2 lows. Bonus will be something assaulty to go with their battle focused racial profile in dust but again, not sure what this could be specifically. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 605	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:11:00 - [13] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Pirate Stripper Scout suits. The reason you hate is the reason I love it I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
Dr3K Nazionali Senza Filtro 19	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:11:00 - [14] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Caldari scout ck0 will likely have 4 highs 1 low to compliment the gk0 1 high 4 lows. 4 High and 1 Low is orrible for a scout... In fact, I proposed 3H and 2H (like minmatar)
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 198	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:19:00 - [15] - Quote All of your we deserve this is meaningless ccp won't make it the fotm just because you QQ Well not intentionally Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Even salads taste good deepfried..mmm grease
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2460	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:24:00 - [16] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Caldari scout ck0 will likely have 4 highs 1 low to compliment the gk0 1 high 4 lows. They will have shields and armor opposite to that of the gallente and the same speed/stamina as well as probably similar CPU/PG. Not sure about racial scout bonus - something ewar-y I guess but precision is pointless, scan range is already gallente and there isn't really any other ewar yet. Amarr have slowest speed but highest stamina and most base eHP. Going by the current 5 slot set up, the ak0 will be 2 highs 2 lows. Bonus will be something assaulty to go with their battle focused racial profile in dust but again, not sure what this could be specifically. Came to say this. Can't wait for caldari scouts rapping faster than most people can track. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3263	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:26:00 - [17] - Quote My minmatar assault will be faster than the amarr scout
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 84	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:34:00 - [18] - Quote Message Frim Godin: Those stats makes sense, but those bonuses, just no. the Amarr bonus should be a stamina increase. It also should get a flat bonus towards (Whenever they come in) some kind of tracking disruptor, and maybe webs.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5385	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:39:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! If you want to take advantage of the scan precision bonus, then you're gonna have to rearrange your slot layout. Precision enhancers are high-slot modules therefore it will make little sense to make the suit have more low slots than high slots. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 191	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:52:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! No self respecting scout would use this............... Exactly 0 advantages.

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 587	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:05:00 - [21] - Quote one is gonna have high precision one is not gonna have a equipment slot or one will have 2 equipment slots and no sidearm both will have the 5% to dampening CCP needs to add an extra slot for both gallente and minmatar if not amarr will have 2H 2L and 2 equipment at proto caldari will have 4H 1L at proto SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5385	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:07:00 - [22] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! No self respecting scout would use this............... Exactly 0 advantages. A good alternative for the Amarr Scout is to make it give charge up bonus for knives. Especially if CCP introduces the Amarrian Sword. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 480	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:07:00 - [23] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! No self respecting scout would use this............... Exactly 0 advantages. Highest movement speed and great stamina and great built in precision You can: Complex kin cat Plate of your choice - even rep or ferroscale not limiting speed Dampener / Range 2 Damage mods or Shield and Damage mod Seems better than the Minmatar Scout - hope they dont give it a higher move speed than mine
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2549	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:47:00 - [24] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! No self respecting scout would use this............... Exactly 0 advantages. Let me see. At level 5 i have enough profile Dampening to avoid ADV Active scanners. I have a PAssive Scanning high enough to passivley scan like ADV Scanner. I have enough slots for Range APLIFIERS,armor tanking AND armor repairers.With the high MOVEMENT SPEED i can Hipfire most effectivley with Shotguns,SMG's,Pistols (without even having to use L1)... I know i would use this. Still. Im not asking what you think of my vision of the scout Buddies, im asking how do YOU think the scouts should/could be.... HEH... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2549	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:48:00 - [25] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think Amarr Scouts should be something like this: Amarr Scout Ak.0 (King Edition) GÖª2 H slots GÖª3 L Slots GÖª140 Armor GÖª100 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S GÖªSpeed. 7.1 (LESS Than MIN ASSAULT) GÖªMOVEMENT SPEED:6 (Highest in the game) GÖªStamina 275 Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Amarr Scout +5% Scan Precision per level With Decent HP (for a scout) And the highest Movement Speed , It makes it a Perfect Battle Scout Or a Powerful E-WAR specialist... This is the scout I would love to have... What about YOUR amarr & Cal Scouts?! Let me see them! No self respecting scout would use this............... Exactly 0 advantages. Highest movement speed and great stamina and great built in precision You can: Complex kin cat Plate of your choice - even rep or ferroscale not limiting speed Dampener / Range 2 Damage mods or Shield and Damage mod Seems better than the Minmatar Scout - hope they dont give it a higher move speed than mine someone with Vision for a change The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2380	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:51:00 - [26] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Caldari scout ck0 will likely have 4 highs 1 low to compliment the gk0 1 high 4 lows. They will have shields and armor opposite to that of the gallente and the same speed/stamina as well as probably similar CPU/PG. Not sure about racial scout bonus - something ewar-y I guess but precision is pointless, scan range is already gallente and there isn't really any other ewar yet. Amarr have slowest speed but highest stamina and most base eHP. Going by the current 5 slot set up, the ak0 will be 2 highs 2 lows. Bonus will be something assaulty to go with their battle focused racial profile in dust but again, not sure what this could be specifically. Four highs on a scout is ridiculous. The trend is not to reverse the stats from the Gallente, but to deduct two high slots from the medium counterpart. That way we end up with 2h 3l for Caldari, and 1h 3l for the Amarr. No.
Oswald Rehnquist 744	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:56:00 - [27] - Quote I"m not going to redo your amarr scout and ruin it, but the high slot focused caldari deserve the precision racial, there are plenty of other culturally scout oriented free low slot racials which the amarr could get. I agree scouts should be 6/5 instead of 5/4 Caldari Scout Ck.0 GÖª4 H slots GÖª1 L Slots (just enough to signature tank, wouldn't mind +1 though as a general scout buff) GÖª70 Armor GÖª130 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Caldari Scout +5% Scan Precision per level Dr3K wrote: I'd like to have a Cal scout like this: bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Caldari Scout -5% Fitting CPU Shield Recharging No offense but that is a useless racial, regen tanking requires moderate ehp (400-600 ehp minimal), which scouts are only able to obtain through heavy brick tanking. Even with a 4 high slot scout, you are now split between extenders and getting anything out of that racial. So the bonus is literally going to apply to like 1 or 2 modules, which is a complete waste of a racial, its not even a stat booster on a suit class that is starved slot wise. If that is the cal scout, then gal scout is superior to it in every way and the cal scout is literally useless. Below 28 dB
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2550	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:10:00 - [28] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I"m not going to redo your amarr scout and ruin it, but the high slot focused caldari deserve the precision racial, there are plenty of other culturally scout oriented free low slot racials which the amarr could get. I agree scouts should be 6/5 instead of 5/4 Caldari Scout Ck.0 GÖª4 H slots GÖª1 L Slots (just enough to signature tank, wouldn't mind +1 though as a general scout buff) GÖª70 Armor GÖª130 Shields GÖª1 E GÖª1 L GÖª1 S Bonus: Scout +5% Prof Dampening per level Caldari Scout +5% Scan Precision per level . If this happens to be like this! ... I would have to use Cal Scouts... >.> I love being a walking scanner... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 274	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:16:00 - [29] - Quote I see min being 3/3, amarr being 2/3, gal being 2/4, and cal being 4/2. Because amarr being 1/3 is just stupid, and gallente/caldari would be the only usable suits. -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2550	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:17:00 - [30] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: I see min being 3/3, amarr being 2/3, gal being 2/4, and cal being 4/2. Because amarr being 1/3 is just stupid, and gallente/caldari would be the only usable suits. THANK YOU.... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....



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