Relax. He's simply linking it in response to that thread, but if you actually read the comment under the link he clearly states that they'll be changing the bonuses, not the weapons, to balance the Logistics suit.

Ya'll need to be less knee-jerk reactionaries.

then why the hell is everyone crying logi's all have useless bonuses anyway well amarian logi does...

then why the hell is everyone crying logi's all have useless bonuses anyway well amarian logi does...

Ya'll

recanted ..u guys should really rethink which terrible thread you reference when you agree with people

Long live the South!!! Yeeeeeehaw!

I don't understand why CCP doesn't simply issue a statement, "The light weapon slot of Logi suits will not be touched". It would silence many of the worries (and hence threads) on the subject.

Haha actually I live in the southwest, but a Ya'll seemed appropriate in the post

I don't understand why CCP doesn't simply issue a statement, "The light weapon slot of Logi suits will not be touched". It would silence many of the worries (and hence threads) on the subject.

This is the reason CCP doesn't post nearly as often as we would like - As soon as they say something, the forums are flooded with misinterpreted information and tin foil hat assumptions, followed by threats.

I don't understand why CCP doesn't simply issue a statement, "The light weapon slot of Logi suits will not be touched". It would silence many of the worries (and hence threads) on the subject.

That's because the community is so tense and loves to freak out and take offhanded comments as fact, that they've made CCP terrified of saying anything at all.

As an example I was at a roundtable in EVE Vegas with the developers just talking about various ideas and whatnot. As we were walking out down the hall, someone mentioned "Hey can we get APCs in Dust?" and the dev shrugged and said "Well that would likely be an MAV, it's something we'd like to do at some point but we're focusing on other stuff right now"

20 minutes later there is a tweet from the player who asked the question "MAVs CONFIRMED FOR 1.7!"

I talked to the dev again later that night at the party and he was just facepalming over it. They basically can't say anything because someone hears what they want to hear and then makes a huge fuss about it.

That's because the community is so tense and loves to freak out and take offhanded comments as fact, that they've made CCP terrified of saying anything at all.

As an example I was at a roundtable in EVE Vegas with the developers just talking about various ideas and whatnot. As we were walking out down the hall, someone mentioned "Hey can we get APCs in Dust?" and the dev shrugged and said "Well that would likely be an MAV, it's something we'd like to do at some point but we're focusing on other stuff right now"

20 minutes later there is a tweet from the player who asked the question "MAVs CONFIRMED FOR 1.7!"

I talked to the dev again later that night at the party and he was just facepalming over it. They basically can't say anything because someone hears what they want to hear and then makes a huge fuss about it.

CCP also loves harvesting tears~~~

Because saying "No" would explicitly say they have no plans for them. Which is false.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438

what i said
PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR INTENTIONS IN LINKING THE SIDEARM ONLY LOGI THREAD. when you acknowledged that logi needs a nerf seriously yall are not considering side arm only please tell us your not

update...NO SIDE ARM ONLY LOGI'S STOP QQING

just a bad reference
update number 2..ccp logi bro DID NOT PICK THAT THREAD FOR THE REFERENCE

irc proof

<[CCP]Logibro> FYI I didn't pick the link.
<[CCP]Logibro> But no, we're not saying that's how we're looking to nerf them.
<[CCP]Logibro> Might be an option we'll consider, but I'm personally not a fan of sidearm only logi.

I think promoting a PR philosophy where a company says what it doesn't mean isn't exactly a good thing.

Id rather that then telling me one thing and meaning another.

I guess I'm just a very patient person?

So what happens when their Soon's and Maybe's turn into No's and Never's?

Will you still be happy?
Will they still be telling you one thing and meaning it or will they be telling you one thing and meaning another?

"FYI, I didn't pick the link"

How responsible...also, the lack of good communication with CCP DUST is getting more obvious and obvious.

lol yeah it does

then why the hell is everyone crying logi's all have useless bonuses anyway well amarian logi does...

Not even close. It goes to its frontline role. You seem to be lacking in imagination as to what is available as options in addressing problems while in match.

Get creative instead of locking your mind away in the little box it currently resides in.

I would be okay with sidearm logis if they made sidearm 'carbines' available that way they have a long range option with enough oumph to support thier fire squads.

if anything ccp needs to forget about nerfing the logi..focus on balancing the individual logi suits against each other and buff ALL ASSAULT

Word.

I mean, seriously, exactly how do the Minmatar and Amarr logis need a nerf? The only suit that needs a nerf more is probably the Minamatar scout...

then why the hell is everyone crying logi's all have useless bonuses anyway well amarian logi does...

If the overall Logi bonus is changed, then the Amarr Logi's bonus will be the best one IMO.

mm not necessarily the amar logi requires max skills to ustilize effectively and at max skills you get 1.25 more armor repp for every complex module you fit..dont forget at least at LEAST ONE of those 4 slots will be either a pg or cpu expansion..also you will find with the amar logi...if you run proto logi gear ..and proto weapons..you cant fit shield extenders..you can only fit dmg mods...so making dmg mods useless on logi..pretty much makes the amar logi 100% useless..almost all valid true amar logi's run dmg mods...unless your running an ar and smg on your amarian logi...and possible lower lvl your not fitting 3 x complex shield extenders and repper modules and plates NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

LOGI must have its own defense it cannot be forced to rely on teammates because while i may heal my teammates they could care less if i die..and logi is the most EXPENSIVE SUIT TO RUN.

if they make logi side arm only there will be no logis in pubs i call it now..you will make the logibro extinct no matter how you try and pull off a sidearm only logi..and any TRUE LOGI would tell you that.

no one wants to run around with a side arm..it has lower dps than light weapons so in cqc..which is the only time a logi would be able to fight..they would get slaughtered


further more as far as HP TANKING logi's go..it is not possible to make the amar logi better than the amar assault while running equiv lvl gear...assuming both players have = skill in gun game...screw sidearm only logi's worst idea ever..better to make all logi fitts carry gear of equiv lv to there suit..or at least partially so. ( equivalent lvl because otherwise assault logi's will just stack compact nanos.

if every single proto logi suit required proto gear to be valid the only problematic logi would be the gal logi...

because ccp though it wise to make it so the gal logi does not suffer from the biggest draw back of logi gear the absurd fitting costs.


my proto logi suits run me 200 -250 k...i promise u nerf it in this way and no one will ever see my core repper tool or wyka injector ina pub again..



(I AM A TRUE LOGI..I REVIVE YOU WITH NOTHING EXCEPT PROTO INJECTORS ON ALL MY SUITS AND YOU CAN KISS THAT GOODBYE)


because i dont think there is 1 fully specced proto logi that is willing to run around in the most expensive suit in the game 100% exposed..

what about open maps..? hmm what will logi's do when the only weapons they can use start dealing dmg at 20m and under and ever person and there mother is spamming weapon with 100m range

Sorry ccp doesn't listen to truth just Assaults QQ.

Sorry ccp doesn't listen to truth just Assaults QQ.

I run an Amarr Logi as well, thank you very much, and since I've gotten my core skills up, I haven't had to run a PG/CPU upgrade anymore. If you fit it correctly, you will never need one. Hell, I have an Amarr Logi that I would someday like to fit that has an Imperial Scrambler Rifle, Complex Shield Extenders, and Armor Plates.


The bonus would just have a good impact if the bonus was changed (and btw with 1 Complex Repper, you'd rep at 7.5, you forgot to include the 10% Efficacy if you have the Armor Repair skill maxed).

its 5 % PER LVL THAT 25% ..and with 1 complex repper you have about 12 hps logi's come with a base 5 hps smart ass

25% efficacy to armor repair modules adds up to 1.25 per module so by equipping 1 module you may have 12 hps

and as for the running amar without upgrades i doubt your using the same fit i am

lmao why you so mad? I was saying what it would be with just the Complex repper, no Logi bonus, as the Amarr skill doesn't affect the native repair.

And there is still the +5% per level for Armor Repairers, so if you equipped a Complex Repairer, you'd get the 5, plus the 1.25, plus another 1.25, equalling 7.5. Include the native repair, and you have 12.5 hp/s

that bonus doesnt apply to the base hp..i am irritated in general it actually has nothing to do with dust or anything on here..my bike broke down today..havnt been able to play dust been arm deep in engine grease..just popping back n forth to seee the news on the forums :p

i do not see where you are getting the extra 1.25 armor from..1 complex repairer should give you 6.25 armor repp + base 5 so 11.25 ..i could be wrong..i dont get on dust as much anymore ..but as far as i know the amar armor repp bonus does NOT effect the base 5 hps ..or all my amar logi's would be running with 6.25 base over every other logi..(to be honest i think it should be this way)

Dont worry the amarr logi will keep 2 weapon slots. 2 sidearm weapon slots for epic trolage.

There are 2 bonuses to Armor Rep mods.

1) The Amarr Logi's bonus
2) The Armor Repair Mod Skill


Each one gives you +5% efficacy to Armor Repair Mods per level, so having each at 5 would give you +1.25 hp/s for a Complex Repair mod, and if you add the native 5 hp/s, you total out at 12.5 hp/s.

I'll run dual Flaylocks again :D