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843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 29	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:17:00 - [1] - Quote Someone was running proto gear. WHAT THE **. It's almost like, they earned that after playing dust for months and even years, and have earned the isk to boot so that they can play with it. But of course that is lies, they are all pay-to-win faggots. Why are people using proto gear in pub matches??? IS PC not good enough? There is nothing wrong with PC atm, it's pretty much perfect, so you might as well save all your proto gear for that. Come on people, it's ruining the game experience for new people! Stop trying to play to enjoy yourself and play to satisfy CCP's brilliant game design in which completely new players can be pitted against veterans by not wearing proto gear! It's not CCP's fault, it's YOUR fault. All you people wearing gear that you earned and paid for yourself. It's YOUR fault more people don't play this game. FOR SHAME ON ANYONE NOT USING MILITIA GEAR. P.S You're all *** idiots. Director // Ranking Officer //** BurgezzE.T.F Patron of War
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1548	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:19:00 - [2] - Quote I love you. -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Oswald Rehnquist 720	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:21:00 - [3] - Quote I would have phrased it a little nicer, but I essentially agree, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't have any suit higher than the dragonfly scout as I am still waiting on my preferred suit to actually come out, so I am stuck with like a few modules and advance sidearms. The issue people are having is match making, which is different than people enjoying the fruits of their rewards. Below 28 dB
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:27:00 - [4] - Quote Its kind of cyclical though Why are we pitted against proto? the matchmaking is off Why is matchmaking off? Not enough players, people complained about the delay Why is their not enough players? They're pitted against proto and get slaughtered The choice to use the proto is yours, so you have the choice to match the gear with the opponents Also would it kill you not to hunt them down like dogs when they get redlined? back off and let them gather their forces. It makes a far more interesting match for both sides "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
The Shadow Prince Harimau Malaya. 5	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:27:00 - [5] - Quote i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways...
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:30:00 - [6] - Quote The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... If the game is dead then why don't you quit? Problem solved "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
The Shadow Prince Harimau Malaya. 5	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:32:00 - [7] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... If the game is dead then why don't you quit? Problem solved because im not complaining about proto gear.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:35:00 - [8] - Quote The Shadow Prince wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... If the game is dead then why don't you quit? Problem solved because im not complaining about proto gear. Neither am I. I'm saying you have the choice "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
The Shadow Prince Harimau Malaya. 8	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:40:00 - [9] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... If the game is dead then why don't you quit? Problem solved because im not complaining about proto gear. Neither am I. I'm saying you have the choice Yup we all have that choice. Im not one of those ppl that QQ about proto gear or OP this OP that...im just saying that if you dont enjoy playing the game and QQ all day then just quit and save yourself the frustration. Go find something else you can enjoy.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 501	Posted - 2013.11.27 09:50:00 - [10] - Quote The Shadow Prince wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... If the game is dead then why don't you quit? Problem solved because im not complaining about proto gear. Neither am I. I'm saying you have the choice Yup we all have that choice. Im not one of those ppl that QQ about proto gear or OP this OP that...im just saying that if you dont enjoy playing the game and QQ all day then just quit and save yourself the frustration. Go find something else you can enjoy. But can you honestly say its fun when the enemy is forced to hide or quit and you have to sit around waiting for the MCC to blow up? New players don't have the choice to match you proto to proto. Hell I don't and I've been playing for months. Even if you went down to Adv level you'd have the advantage of weapon proficiency and passive skills. Whatever, its your game too. I just prefer it when I have a challenge "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"

Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E 24	Posted - 2013.11.27 10:31:00 - [11] - Quote I only switch to proto gear if I get shot by a proto weapon... If I get hit and killed by a Duvolle by a guy in an adv fit then I bust out a full proto suit, if I end up redlining the enemy, only 1 person's to blame, and it ain't me.... Aside from that, blame corporation's like Outer Heaven, Dem Durty Boys, Nyain San, and them, they're the one's who proto stomp all the time... Why? Cause PC made them filthy rich, people in the said corporations above will naturally use proto because their corp's can pay them for their loss. How do you fix it? Introduction to a Player Versus Enemy would solve the issue, more people will come to the game and without Player V Player interaction you won't get what you see in pub matches, proto stomping panzies that believe their the **** when they kill a guy in full miltia gear and berate you about later on... Or the second way to stop proto stomping, removal of many proto weapons, suits and equipment and only allow advance gear. Or a third way to stop proto stomping, just only allow it in FW and PC (for those of you who attempt to troll, I am lv 5 in basic caldari suit, 5 Prof in SR and SMG, 4 prof in Scr and got Lv 5 in both shields and extenders... and oh btw I've only gotten 20/3/0 using a basic Breach SMG in a pub match with 1 complex damage mod and 1 enhanced shield extender my HP, 300 shield and 150 armor in an assault basic, its level 1, 15mil SP going on 16mil very soon). So yes, any case of the above would fix these games, but still best way to solve the issue is for the introduction of PvE some people just aren't PvP proficient and only play because they want to enjoy a game with their friend's, there are more than just the "I love guns" fanatics out there, some people want to enjoy the game with friend's but can't cause of said proto stompers... And yes I will agree for what the game is Dust is pretty dead 2-4 matches you'll be fighting against the same players over and over again. Welp that's my summary of this proto stomping business... G.R.A.V.E - Dead men tell no tale...
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 0	Posted - 2013.11.27 10:33:00 - [12] - Quote Noob to Dust. Squad stomps aren't fun. At least takeaway the scanners so I can shot someone in the back and dink there eHP down a quarter before running out of my clip and then having to duck and cover with aimed bullets that go around corners. :) IMDHO At least get the squads evenly distributed. Seeing 3 high end squads on one side vs me 11 others and four doing AV squats (what is it with that, is there a favourite macro out there that selects Anti Armour and goes triangle, triangle, triangle... Anyhow getting stomped no worries. Getting stomped and constant getting scanned yawn and/or scanned prevented gets a tad repeative. Now one of the problems for the matchmaking is that if there is only one squad that will form a backbone for the rest of the team. Not only that if a quarter of players are tingling their triangles it means one team will have a squad, 8 randoms and 2 squatters vs 12 randoms and 4 squatters. As a random you will spend more time vs a squad then with one. Scotty can't fix that. It could stop dropping a squad on the winning side, it could stop 3 vs 0 squad match ups. It could also stop erroring out and make me a cup of tea. However I don't think it can fix the odds of facing more squads if you are a random and less squads if you are in one. It could do something about the squatters like not rewarding any passive experience if no WP are earned.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 878	Posted - 2013.11.27 10:33:00 - [13] - Quote let them lose there money with ttk as is thats all thats going to happen pulling expensive toys out
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E 24	Posted - 2013.11.27 10:39:00 - [14] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Noob to Dust. Squad stomps aren't fun. At least takeaway the scanners so I can shot someone in the back and dink there eHP down a quarter before running out of my clip and then having to duck and cover with aimed bullets that go around corners. :) Scanners are also repetitive, but can't be removed from the game, because it allows tactical knowledge of the enemies location's, hidden nanohives and uplink's and etc... However the scanners should be more specific and should only allow 1 scan type, that beings said, the right scanner would be able to scan infantry but unable to scan equipment drops or vehicles, and said items can be used to find said vehicles or equipment... Main issue, scanners give too much information and should specify in a certain area. G.R.A.V.E - Dead men tell no tale...
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 14	Posted - 2013.11.27 11:47:00 - [15] - Quote You pupstompers say its not your fault that the match making sucks because low player count well pupstomping is not helping were geting low player counts because yal are killing them off before they can actually enjoy the full potential of the game which you have already reached let the new berrys have a chance. I have a dog named Bob im so creative :)
KIRSTY j The Walking Targets 17	Posted - 2013.11.27 11:47:00 - [16] - Quote I'm mostly a solo player and use my proto gear all the time. It's not the gear it's the squads. Even with all my fancy stuff I still can't go up against squads, it's not a magical suit. The matchmaking is terrible, puts all the randoms on one side.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 14	Posted - 2013.11.27 11:48:00 - [17] - Quote You pupstompers say its not your fault that the match making sucks because low player count well pupstomping is not helping were geting low player counts because yal are killing them off before they can actually enjoy the full potential of the game which you have already reached let the new berrys have a chance. I have a dog named Bob im so creative :)
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 14	Posted - 2013.11.27 11:50:00 - [18] - Quote Zan u made me rage 1 to many times the other day I have a dog named Bob im so creative :)
Roran Theron Blood Mist and Bonechips 2	Posted - 2013.11.27 11:51:00 - [19] - Quote I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed.
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 687	Posted - 2013.11.27 12:04:00 - [20] - Quote Roran Theron wrote: I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed. Not sure if serious or r3tarded

Justice Prevails 123	Posted - 2013.11.27 12:28:00 - [21] - Quote Roran Theron wrote: I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed. My duvolle is the really the only proto equipment I use, not getting a suit. Just like the stompers I earned the sp and isk for it and prof 5. The weapon may or not be OP, but it isn't P2W. I don't pull that out until I get killed by a proto. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire. Like a previous poster said, its the corps and squads working together that lead to stomping. You can't nerf teamwork. This is coming from a lone wolf. Edit: But you Dbags could call off the dogs when the other guys are redlined. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
NAV HIV The Generals 557	Posted - 2013.11.27 13:52:00 - [22] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Someone was running proto gear. WHAT THE **. It's almost like, they earned that after playing dust for months and even years, and have earned the isk to boot so that they can play with it. But of course that is lies, they are all pay-to-win faggots. Why are people using proto gear in pub matches??? IS PC not good enough? There is nothing wrong with PC atm, it's pretty much perfect, so you might as well save all your proto gear for that. Come on people, it's ruining the game experience for new people! Stop trying to play to enjoy yourself and play to satisfy CCP's brilliant game design in which completely new players can be pitted against veterans by not wearing proto gear! It's not CCP's fault, it's YOUR fault. All you people wearing gear that you earned and paid for yourself. It's YOUR fault more people don't play this game. FOR SHAME ON ANYONE NOT USING MILITIA GEAR. P.S You're all ***** idiots. Best Post in a while. Please come up with Part 2, comparing ARs and SCR and how ARs are OP
Pr0phetzReck0ning Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:08:00 - [23] - Quote This post feels like sarcasm. Cause CLEARLY PC is NOT Perfect. Or else why would people be sending in massive reports of freezes, lag, boots, etc. etc. However, I can partially agree that when people run their full proto gear (let us call it their PC gear) in pub matches it does frustrate things quite a bit. It's so bad that you can practically sense when you're going to get pub stomped just by looking at your opponents. Let's face it, this community is so small that those of us who have been around for awhile know the other players strictly by reputation, corp, etc. Maybe CCP should consider limiting Proto gear to it's own game mode, meaning a 'Hardcore' Pub match where full proto is alive. Actually I think that would really be useful for PC training seeing as everyone in there can fight against some of the best in full Proto warfare minus the high risk of losing their District. But let's face it, it probably wont happen until a year or two from now -_-
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 15	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:12:00 - [24] - Quote I agree, im quite tired of ppl using proto fits, with pad + autoaim, I use mouse and keyboard, but thanks to ps3 awesome performance@15 fps sometimes its a pain in the ass to aim like i used to on quake 2... Since i aslo play eve online i bought the collectors edition and my fitting is heavy suit with laser and submachine gun bpo, and mid slots also shield extender and plates, also bpo, free fit that can deal with proto pay to win faggots. Protos should be banned from pub matches. My EVE toon
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2008	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:26:00 - [25] - Quote Train as you fight, fight as you train. If you have proto and the cash to run it, run it. Like a few guys have pointed out, teamwork is op, not proto. Teamwork only requires comms, and a team. mass driver haiku blam blam blam blam blam blam load ahhahahahah
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 76	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:29:00 - [26] - Quote Kek. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2223	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:30:00 - [27] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Someone was running proto gear. WHAT THE **. It's almost like, they earned that after playing dust for months and even years, and have earned the isk to boot so that they can play with it. But of course that is lies, they are all pay-to-win faggots. Why are people using proto gear in pub matches??? IS PC not good enough? There is nothing wrong with PC atm, it's pretty much perfect, so you might as well save all your proto gear for that. Come on people, it's ruining the game experience for new people! Stop trying to play to enjoy yourself and play to satisfy CCP's brilliant game design in which completely new players can be pitted against veterans by not wearing proto gear! It's not CCP's fault, it's YOUR fault. All you people wearing gear that you earned and paid for yourself. It's YOUR fault more people don't play this game. FOR SHAME ON ANYONE NOT USING MILITIA GEAR. P.S You're all *** idiots. that's just INSANE!! damn protobears they should all BURN!! Common Sense and Logic** are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
GRUNT 78 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:31:00 - [28] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Someone was running proto gear. WHAT THE **. It's almost like, they earned that after playing dust for months and even years, and have earned the isk to boot so that they can play with it. But of course that is lies, they are all pay-to-win faggots. Why are people using proto gear in pub matches??? IS PC not good enough? There is nothing wrong with PC atm, it's pretty much perfect, so you might as well save all your proto gear for that. Come on people, it's ruining the game experience for new people! Stop trying to play to enjoy yourself and play to satisfy CCP's brilliant game design in which completely new players can be pitted against veterans by not wearing proto gear! It's not CCP's fault, it's YOUR fault. All you people wearing gear that you earned and paid for yourself. It's YOUR fault more people don't play this game. FOR SHAME ON ANYONE NOT USING MILITIA GEAR. P.S You're all ***** idiots. cant stand "boo-hoo Im losing" threads like this. Every single person to the individual started this game gettin their butt kicked. Players earned that proto gear and deserve to use them because they stayed committed to " the grind " . Admittedly this game will test your patience and if you cant keep a good fun loving attitude concerning Dust, THEN UNFORTUNATELY YOUR PLAYIN THE WRONG GAME,,SIMPLY PUT. Btw and imo,,,,the QQrs screw up the game,,NOT PEOPLE N PROTO GEAR. Get good or get out,,,,choose!!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 360	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:32:00 - [29] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Its kind of cyclical though Why are we pitted against proto? the matchmaking is off Why is matchmaking off? Not enough players, people complained about the delay Why is their not enough players? They're pitted against proto and get slaughtered The choice to use the proto is yours, so you have the choice to match the gear with the opponents Also would it kill you not to hunt them down like dogs when they get redlined? back off and let them gather their forces. It makes a far more interesting match for both sides Man no ones knows slaughtered... It isnt even close to what it was before with full Zitro lead imp squad's and pfbhz... Now people complain about latino killers lawls.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2223	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:35:00 - [30] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Noob to Dust. Squad stomps aren't fun. At least takeaway the scanners so I can shot someone in the back and dink there eHP down a quarter before running out of my clip and then having to duck and cover with aimed bullets that go around corners. :) IMDHO At least get the squads evenly distributed. Seeing 3 high end squads on one side vs me 11 others and four doing AV squats (what is it with that, is there a favourite macro out there that selects Anti Armour and goes triangle, triangle, triangle... Anyhow getting stomped no worries. Getting stomped and constant getting scanned yawn and/or scanned prevented gets a tad repeative. Now one of the problems for the matchmaking is that if there is only one squad that will form a backbone for the rest of the team. Not only that if a quarter of players are tingling their triangles it means one team will have a squad, 8 randoms and 2 squatters vs 12 randoms and 4 squatters. As a random you will spend more time vs a squad then with one. Scotty can't fix that. It could stop dropping a squad on the winning side, it could stop 3 vs 0 squad match ups. It could also stop erroring out and make me a cup of tea. However I don't think it can fix the odds of facing more squads if you are a random and less squads if you are in one. It could do something about the squatters like not rewarding any passive experience if no WP are earned. try using dampeners and creating a fit so u don't get scanned 24/7 I agree scanners need a swift beating from the nerf hammer, but even as it is its not hard to roll around undetected.. and I just actually read the comments here... no wonder this game is on crutches after a back alley stabbing incident hard for a game to thrive with such a small, self-centered community that QQs over the few things that actually make this game fun... Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.

Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 70	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:41:00 - [31] - Quote The Shadow Prince wrote: i have the isk...i have the sp. ill run proto gear 24/7. Dont like dying to proto gear camp the mcc or just quit the game. game is dead anyways... You cant blame the players, blame ccp and their matchmaking. Its not the one person running proto gear thats ruining the exp for new comers its the 6 man proto squads thats doing it. It's not the "proto" part of the 6 man squads doing it, it's the fact that 6/12 man squads are being pitted against random pubbies. Which is also how the game is intended to work. Cooperative play should beat out non-cooperative play. So end of story is that everything in regards to using higher skilled gear and coordinating squads is functioning as intended. The only two "broken" things are: 1) Not enough players (Start recruiting you lazy SOB's!) and 2) Matchmaking not working (Possibly because CCP devs are dumb or possibly because not enough players.)
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 24	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:46:00 - [32] - Quote i have proto. I can afford to rock proto. Took me 1 month to save SP for it, thanks to events. I rarely use it, just when i'm fighting proto squads, and even then, it will take me a while to rage enough to pull out my bumblebee suit. I just dont see the need to OH MY GOD I HAVE PROTOI HAVE TO WEAR THE BEST GEAR I CAN POSSIBLY FIELD AT ALL TIMES TO FOREVER FIGHT PLAYERS WEAKER THAN ME! OTHERWISE BAD KD BAD WP PEOPLE THINK LESS OF ME NO I NEED PROTO ROCK PROTO LOVE PROTO But if thats how you roll, more power to you. There's few things less gratifying than killing some proto (especially neo proto) on a noob kill streak than I slaughter him the rest of the match. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 70	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:58:00 - [33] - Quote Roran Theron wrote: I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed. How is it pay to win? The SP were earned for free, the ISK to buy the gear was earned in game for free... How is that pay to win? Get your complaints straightened out! On the other hand I agree that there needs to be something for new players to "cut their teeth on" in order to keep them interested in playing the game and thus re-bolster the numbers of players available for matches and the match-making system. Unfortunately most solutions for this would mean major changes or additions to the game to implement and won't be a quick fix. The only "quick fix" I can think of at the moment is to create tiers of public matches. This would be much like how CCP limits the types of ships allowed into mission sights in PvE in EVE. Smaller sights only allow smaller ships etc. So the question is can we make public matches where there are like 3 tiers... Tier 1 - Only free and basic level gear allowed. Tier 2 - Only free, basic, and advanced gear allowed. Tier 3 - All gear allowed (like it is now). Would this system work? From a technical standpoint, yes it could be coded and implemented relatively easily. But would it work? NO. Why? Because of players. With the low quantity of players in the game now, you would be dividing the already low pool of people playing into 3 divisions. Making matchmaking even more stupid and silly. Tier 3 matches would never happen but once or twice a day and maybe only because the top alliances would arrange matches on purpose there. While Tier 1 would allow newbs to get used to the game, the majority would settle into tier 2 for "fun matches" and use tier 1 to "farm ISK" from newbs. So end result is that players will break the system no matter what. 8(
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 25	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:02:00 - [34] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: Roran Theron wrote: I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed. How is it pay to win? The SP were earned for free, the ISK to buy the gear was earned in game for free... How is that pay to win? Get your complaints straightened out! On the other hand I agree that there needs to be something for new players to "cut their teeth on" in order to keep them interested in playing the game and thus re-bolster the numbers of players available for matches and the match-making system. Unfortunately most solutions for this would mean major changes or additions to the game to implement and won't be a quick fix. The only "quick fix" I can think of at the moment is to create tiers of public matches. This would be much like how CCP limits the types of ships allowed into mission sights in PvE in EVE. Smaller sights only allow smaller ships etc. So the question is can we make public matches where there are like 3 tiers... Tier 1 - Only free and basic level gear allowed. Tier 2 - Only free, basic, and advanced gear allowed. Tier 3 - All gear allowed (like it is now). Would this system work? From a technical standpoint, yes it could be coded and implemented relatively easily. But would it work? NO. Why? Because of players. With the low quantity of players in the game now, you would be dividing the already low pool of people playing into 3 divisions. Making matchmaking even more stupid and silly. Tier 3 matches would never happen but once or twice a day and maybe only because the top alliances would arrange matches on purpose there. While Tier 1 would allow newbs to get used to the game, the majority would settle into tier 2 for "fun matches" and use tier 1 to "farm ISK" from newbs. So end result is that players will break the system no matter what. 8( maybe if it were based on suit restrictions. So proto suits are unavailble from the supply depot on tiers 1 & 2 but available at tier 3. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1790	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:05:00 - [35] - Quote Maybe being a little nicer and not raging would get you some more resepect. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Guildo Crow ZionTCD Public Disorder. 164	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:15:00 - [36] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Someone was running proto gear. WHAT THE **. It's almost like, they earned that after playing dust for months and even years, and have earned the isk to boot so that they can play with it. But of course that is lies, they are all pay-to-win faggots. Why are people using proto gear in pub matches??? IS PC not good enough? There is nothing wrong with PC atm, it's pretty much perfect, so you might as well save all your proto gear for that. Come on people, it's ruining the game experience for new people! Stop trying to play to enjoy yourself and play to satisfy CCP's brilliant game design in which completely new players can be pitted against veterans by not wearing proto gear! It's not CCP's fault, it's YOUR fault. All you people wearing gear that you earned and paid for yourself. It's YOUR fault more people don't play this game. FOR SHAME ON ANYONE NOT USING MILITIA GEAR. P.S You're all ***** idiots. On the other hand. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. sportsmanship and all that jazz.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 70	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:24:00 - [37] - Quote Guildo Crow wrote: On the other hand. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. sportsmanship and all that jazz. As has been pointed out again and again, this is the EVE universe where things are VERY cut-throat and competitive both in and out of game. There is no such thing as "wimpy" E-Honor. There is only winning or loosing.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 600	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:52:00 - [38] - Quote Proto Gear is the mask in front of the actual thing that dominates Pubs...And that would be teamwork. A.E., Teamplayers, RND, Imperfect Bastards, Foxhound Corporation... Corps with various competitive edges and different rankings can all stomp pubs JUST because they have team work and your team doesn't. I've seen it happen over and over and over and over and over and over and it's been a long time since I was able to say: "It's because they're wearing proto." It's usually my team not collaborating on an effort to win. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 51	Posted - 2013.11.27 16:39:00 - [39] - Quote I think the best thing about this thread is the people who took me seriously lmfao Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Patron of War
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 2	Posted - 2013.11.27 22:00:00 - [40] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Tch Tch wrote: Noob to Dust. Squad stomps aren't fun. At least takeaway the scanners so I can shot someone in the back and dink there eHP down a quarter before running out of my clip and then having to duck and cover with aimed bullets that go around corners. :) IMDHO At least get the squads evenly distributed. Seeing 3 high end squads on one side vs me 11 others and four doing AV squats (what is it with that, is there a favourite macro out there that selects Anti Armour and goes triangle, triangle, triangle... Anyhow getting stomped no worries. Getting stomped and constant getting scanned yawn and/or scanned prevented gets a tad repeative. Now one of the problems for the matchmaking is that if there is only one squad that will form a backbone for the rest of the team. Not only that if a quarter of players are tingling their triangles it means one team will have a squad, 8 randoms and 2 squatters vs 12 randoms and 4 squatters. As a random you will spend more time vs a squad then with one. Scotty can't fix that. It could stop dropping a squad on the winning side, it could stop 3 vs 0 squad match ups. It could also stop erroring out and make me a cup of tea. However I don't think it can fix the odds of facing more squads if you are a random and less squads if you are in one. It could do something about the squatters like not rewarding any passive experience if no WP are earned. try using dampeners and creating a fit so u don't get scanned 24/7 I agree scanners need a swift beating from the nerf hammer, but even as it is its not hard to roll around undetected.. and I just actually read the comments here... no wonder this game is on crutches after a back alley stabbing incident hard for a game to thrive with such a small, self-centered community that QQs over the few things that actually make this game fun... 1) I stated I like to at least get to shoot even if I know I'm going to only remove a portion of the eHP. So I'm happy to play and lose. My corp name sums up accurately my survival expectations. 2) "scanned yawn and/or scanned prevented gets a tad repeative." And /or scanned prevented. You need to work on your reading comprehension. Also maybe game balance comprehension too, run a basic Alt for a month run your own solo corp and see how easy it is for he newberries. I'm sure your KDR will be just the same as your main. Alternate every once and awhile and you will see how much you need to adapt to survive. I suggest you post a thread and map out its progress for the month that is if you can actually walk the line yourself. Go lead by example or GTFO :) tl;dr I die, I'm fine with it. I run dampers, just bored with the constant scan prevented spam.



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