DUST Search - Just saw something disgusting in a pub match

Jadd Hatchen wrote:

Roran Theron wrote:

I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN ****!!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!!

I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games.

CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed.

How is it pay to win? The SP were earned for free, the ISK to buy the gear was earned in game for free... How is that pay to win? Get your complaints straightened out!

On the other hand I agree that there needs to be something for new players to "cut their teeth on" in order to keep them interested in playing the game and thus re-bolster the numbers of players available for matches and the match-making system. Unfortunately most solutions for this would mean major changes or additions to the game to implement and won't be a quick fix.

The only "quick fix" I can think of at the moment is to create tiers of public matches. This would be much like how CCP limits the types of ships allowed into mission sights in PvE in EVE. Smaller sights only allow smaller ships etc. So the question is can we make public matches where there are like 3 tiers... Tier 1 - Only free and basic level gear allowed. Tier 2 - Only free, basic, and advanced gear allowed. Tier 3 - All gear allowed (like it is now). Would this system work?

From a technical standpoint, yes it could be coded and implemented relatively easily. But would it work? NO. Why? Because of players. With the low quantity of players in the game now, you would be dividing the already low pool of people playing into 3 divisions. Making matchmaking even more stupid and silly. Tier 3 matches would never happen but once or twice a day and maybe only because the top alliances would arrange matches on purpose there. While Tier 1 would allow newbs to get used to the game, the majority would settle into tier 2 for "fun matches" and use tier 1 to "farm ISK" from newbs.

So end result is that players will break the system no matter what. 8(

*I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some


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Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 24	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:46:00 - [1] - Quote i have proto. I can afford to rock proto. Took me 1 month to save SP for it, thanks to events. I rarely use it, just when i'm fighting proto squads, and even then, it will take me a while to rage enough to pull out my bumblebee suit. I just dont see the need to OH MY GOD I HAVE PROTOI HAVE TO WEAR THE BEST GEAR I CAN POSSIBLY FIELD AT ALL TIMES TO FOREVER FIGHT PLAYERS WEAKER THAN ME! OTHERWISE BAD KD BAD WP PEOPLE THINK LESS OF ME NO I NEED PROTO ROCK PROTO LOVE PROTO But if thats how you roll, more power to you. There's few things less gratifying than killing some proto (especially neo proto) on a noob kill streak than I slaughter him the rest of the match. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 25	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:02:00 - [2] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: Roran Theron wrote: I HATE THIS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!! It's ridiculous!!!! I love playing Dust, great game... But when my sentinel suit is getting mowed down by some jerk off with a Duvolle Rifle... It's really annoying. Obviously CCP needs some way of funding this game, but giving players the option to spend money to become the best, not right. Very ****** system, this is why Dust has no chance of ranking up there with the real FPS games. CCP, you are amazing at what you do with Eve... But when it comes to Dust and some of the features you put in... You failed. Good try, but you failed. How is it pay to win? The SP were earned for free, the ISK to buy the gear was earned in game for free... How is that pay to win? Get your complaints straightened out! On the other hand I agree that there needs to be something for new players to "cut their teeth on" in order to keep them interested in playing the game and thus re-bolster the numbers of players available for matches and the match-making system. Unfortunately most solutions for this would mean major changes or additions to the game to implement and won't be a quick fix. The only "quick fix" I can think of at the moment is to create tiers of public matches. This would be much like how CCP limits the types of ships allowed into mission sights in PvE in EVE. Smaller sights only allow smaller ships etc. So the question is can we make public matches where there are like 3 tiers... Tier 1 - Only free and basic level gear allowed. Tier 2 - Only free, basic, and advanced gear allowed. Tier 3 - All gear allowed (like it is now). Would this system work? From a technical standpoint, yes it could be coded and implemented relatively easily. But would it work? NO. Why? Because of players. With the low quantity of players in the game now, you would be dividing the already low pool of people playing into 3 divisions. Making matchmaking even more stupid and silly. Tier 3 matches would never happen but once or twice a day and maybe only because the top alliances would arrange matches on purpose there. While Tier 1 would allow newbs to get used to the game, the majority would settle into tier 2 for "fun matches" and use tier 1 to "farm ISK" from newbs. So end result is that players will break the system no matter what. 8( maybe if it were based on suit restrictions. So proto suits are unavailble from the supply depot on tiers 1 & 2 but available at tier 3. *I fly I shoot I rep I tank/ Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/ I'm the Jack of all trades/ Master of Some