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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:05:00 -
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Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:08:00 -
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Rail rifle will dominate all! :D
probably.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:10:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with.
There will probably be less QQ when they fix the SCR overheat glitch. LINK |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:11:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Rail rifle will dominate all! :D
probably.
Assault Rail Rifle*
I think the drawback should be a slightly less DPS, for a longer ranged weapon. And the scrambler rifle to have a higher DPS like it is now, but single fire. BTW to people who rage about people supposedly using rapid fire controllers, the overheat mechanic punishes them, making it harder to them to use effectively. The Combat Rifle should be just have a slightly lower DPS than the Assault Rifle.
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:14:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with. There will probably be less QQ when they fix the SCR overheat glitch. LINK
O jesus, the redberries are going to be so mad now.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:15:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Zekain K wrote:Rail rifle will dominate all! :D
probably. Assault Rail Rifle* I think the drawback should be a slightly less DPS, for a longer ranged weapon. And the scrambler rifle to have a higher DPS like it is now, but single fire. BTW to people who rage about people supposedly using rapid fire controllers, the overheat mechanic punishes them, making it harder to them to use effectively. The Combat Rifle should be just have a slightly lower DPS than the Assault Rifle. Wrong. less heat built up is produced the faster you fire. So using a rapid controller with the semi SC actually benefits the user by granting them a few more shots before overheating .
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:16:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Zekain K wrote:Rail rifle will dominate all! :D
probably. Assault Rail Rifle* I think the drawback should be a slightly less DPS, for a longer ranged weapon. And the scrambler rifle to have a higher DPS like it is now, but single fire. BTW to people who rage about people supposedly using rapid fire controllers, the overheat mechanic punishes them, making it harder to them to use effectively. The Combat Rifle should be just have a slightly lower DPS than the Assault Rifle. Wrong. less heat built up is produced the faster you fire. So using a rapid controller with the semi SC actually benefits the user by granting them a few more shots before overheating .
Then I guess all CCP has to do is change that.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:17:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with. There will probably be less QQ when they fix the SCR overheat glitch. LINK O jesus, the redberries are going to be so mad now. I know what i'm going to do the next time I play.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1533
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:20:00 -
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Honestly, no, it's not.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:27:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Honestly, no, it's not.
When compared to the Duvolle? No.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:37:00 -
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All of this is irrelevant. New guns. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1534
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:40:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Honestly, no, it's not. When compared to the Duvolle? No.
AR = Easier.
SCR = Better.
I'm running a Logistic A/1 with Scrambler Fifle Proficiency 3 and 2 Complex Damage mods.
Let me tell you that I can't even find a real use for the Imperial, it would be a totally unnecessary and ridiculous overkill. I can't imagine how I would need something more powerful than a CRW-04.
Yeah, PC.
Note that I'm not saying it's OP.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:40:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Wrong. less heat built up is produced the faster you fire. So using a rapid controller with the semi SC actually benefits the user by granting them a few more shots before overheating .
I tested this with macros on my mouse and this is not true. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1534
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:41:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:All of this is irrelevant. New guns.
Nope, the Scrambler is getting a 28m range buff in 1.7, new guns can wait if you're specced into Scramblers 
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:04:00 -
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Alright, I have prof 4 in scrambler and I just want to say... yes it is too powerful in CQC when compared to say... the HMG, or the shotgun, or PLC, or nova knives, or mass driver, or even the flaylock.
When compared to the AR, grenades, and SMG though it is in good company.
So your choice, either some weapons are underpowered (meaning you like the TTK as it is now)
Or some weapons are overpowered (meaning you think TTK is too short)
To single out the scrambler though is not really being honest.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:36:00 -
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The reason the Scrambler Rifle is such a **** machine is because people armor tank, which the Scramblers eat for breakfast. You can one shot a lot of medium suits with the charge of a CRW-04 without even breaking into the Complex Light Damage Modifiers. Shield tankers have a better survival rate against the Scramblers than the Plasma Rifle due to the Plasma Rifle being a shield killer. That and the Plasma Rifle does ******** amount of damage with not enough consequence.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
804
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:44:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:The reason the Scrambler Rifle is such a **** machine is because people armor tank, which the Scramblers eat for breakfast. You can one shot a lot of medium suits with the charge of a CRW-04 without even breaking into the Complex Light Damage Modifiers. Shield tankers have a better survival rate against the Scramblers than the Plasma Rifle due to the Plasma Rifle being a shield killer. That and the Plasma Rifle does ******** amount of damage with not enough consequence.
This is bass ackwards.
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
125
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:44:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:The reason the Scrambler Rifle is such a **** machine is because people armor tank, which the Scramblers eat for breakfast. You can one shot a lot of medium suits with the charge of a CRW-04 without even breaking into the Complex Light Damage Modifiers. Shield tankers have a better survival rate against the Scramblers than the Plasma Rifle due to the Plasma Rifle being a shield killer. That and the Plasma Rifle does ******** amount of damage with not enough consequence.
Do you even scrambler bro? You're all kinds of backwards.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
963
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:48:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:
Do you even scrambler bro? You're all kinds of backwards.
That's semi-true. I had mixed the Scrambler (which is a laser, the shield killer) with a projectile (for some reason, which is the armor killer).
To correct myself: *The Scrambler Rifle is so deadly because **** logic and everything in it and how the lack of sleep causes confusion in my weapon classifying. They are both shield killers, though Scrambler is better at it.
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
315
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Posted - 2013.11.27 07:04:00 -
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STRAFFING is a f-aggot tactic! i shouldnt have to adopt such f-aggotory tactics to counter a ridiculously OP weapon..
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.27 07:33:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Boot Booter wrote:All of this is irrelevant. New guns. Nope, the Scrambler is getting a 28m range buff in 1.7, new guns can wait if you're specced into Scramblers
With 2.8m sp banked, imma gonna try out the RR anyways :)
after having used it for a good half year, i need something diffrent, but about the CRW-4 comment not to ever need an Imperial is incorrect, if i run the CRW in my suit i will have too much CPU & PG left unused, its a waste to leave any point unspend :)
After having gotten down to playing with the Templar BPO + suit and +- 500 EHP for most of last week (have been gradually been lowering my overal EHP for the last month orso and getting used to that EHPwith a high TTK system and THEN swapping back to 3x damage mods & an imperial and the AK.0 Assault... do people drop fast :p
Also have been using the M8 grenades for extra whammy delivery, nothing says f*ck you as an imperial SCR followed by an M8 grenade to the face to roll a team, (if anyone of that team reads this, it was hilarious getting 4 of you with an M8 grenade)
But each time i pick up a carthum assault rifle, i feel no diffrent mowing people down with it, but then when i swap back to the SCR i require a slight re-adjustment time where i miss allot more shots then before i use the ASCR.
Whats your take on the ASCR Keri ?
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:01:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with.
yea scrams are kind drepy as a mini scout I fear the pistols more, scrams are great for ambushing some one but thats about it. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:07:00 -
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I would not want to be the guy on the other side of my scram rifle next month, these changes are just crazy.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1150
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:19:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I would not want to be the guy on the other side of my scram rifle next month, these changes are just crazy.
Yeah i wonder how that will play out, because right now on some maps you can effectivly hit things far away really hard, but with all the open spaces and guns shooting so far, am i gonna be dead everytime i cross an open space ?
Are we going to see the comeback of Taxi 514 for infantry movement?
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1544
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:37:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Boot Booter wrote:All of this is irrelevant. New guns. Nope, the Scrambler is getting a 28m range buff in 1.7, new guns can wait if you're specced into Scramblers With 2.8m sp banked, imma gonna try out the RR anyways :) after having used it for a good half year, i need something diffrent, but about the CRW-4 comment not to ever need an Imperial is incorrect, if i run the CRW in my suit i will have too much CPU & PG left unused, its a waste to leave any point unspend :) After having gotten down to playing with the Templar BPO + suit and +- 500 EHP for most of last week (have been gradually been lowering my overal EHP for the last month orso and getting used to that EHPwith a high TTK system and THEN swapping back to 3x damage mods & an imperial and the AK.0 Assault... do people drop fast :p Also have been using the M8 grenades for extra whammy delivery, nothing says f*ck you as an imperial SCR followed by an M8 grenade to the face to roll a team, (if anyone of that team reads this, it was hilarious getting 4 of you with an M8 grenade) But each time i pick up a carthum assault rifle, i feel no diffrent mowing people down with it, but then when i swap back to the SCR i require a slight re-adjustment time where i miss allot more shots then before i use the ASCR. Whats your take on the ASCR Keri ?
Ahahahah true, you Amarr have such an amazing amount of PG and CPU...!
Have you ever tried a Caldari Assault? lol. If you haven't, please give it a go on the Fitting Tool, so you can understand my suffering :( I have Core Upgrades, Electronics and Engineering all to Level 5 and still I can't fit a M209...
I love the M8. I think that the M8 and the Sleek grenades are the example of how all grenades should be. Either an extremely powerful one with small blast radius for skilled throws, or a "panic" button with low damage and massive AoE.
The ASCR? I really like that weapon, much more than my occasional Duvolle AR (I doubt I will be touching the Duvolle any longer, once the Rail Rifle is released). My only problem with the ASCR is that I find difficult to get used to the visual recoil while ADS.
I guess I just need more practice with it, but I always end up picking the CRW-04 instead, because I feel very comfortable with it and... to be honest, I think it's more powerful 
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
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Import Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
67
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:42:00 -
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I still see more Ar on killfeed..
I use scrambler rifles on my logi suits because I never run out of ammo with them. I dont usually carry nanohives on my frontline logi suits. Repper and scanners mainly.
I cant say which is better for me scr or ar..
Only thing that I have noticed that good scr rifle user usually outshoots ar user in most situations. Maybe its more skill than weapon stats.
I am lucky I can just nuke the good ones with my nades...
Cant wait to get my hands on those new weapons
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1153
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:52:00 -
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Quote:Ahahahah true, you Amarr have such an amazing amount of PG and CPU...!
Have you ever tried a Caldari Assault? lol. If you haven't, please give it a go on the Fitting Tool, so you can understand my suffering :( I have Core Upgrades, Electronics and Engineering all to Level 5 and still I can't fit a M209...
Yeah i have, the suit feels like Quantity over Quality, on my amarr suit i can fit a whole lot of Quality stuff on the caldari i can fit one additional module but its gotta be one of the cheap stuff :p
Quote:I love the M8. I think that the M8 and the Sleek grenades are the example of how all grenades should be. Either an extremely powerful one with small blast radius for skilled throws, or a "panic" button with low damage and massive AoE.
Thats how they are in most FPS games, i am gonna try sticking to the M8, unless i face a well known Explosive heavy team.
Quote:The ASCR? I really like that weapon, much more than my occasional Duvolle AR (I doubt I will be touching the Duvolle any longer, once the Rail Rifle is released). My only problem with the ASCR is that I find difficult to get used to the visual recoil while ADS.
I guess I just need more practice with it, but I always end up picking the CRW-04 instead, because I feel very comfortable with it and... to be honest, I think it's more powerful P
It used to blind me with each shot the first few weeks, but still on occasion if the opponent is in a dark area, each shot looks as if he cloacks and the only thing you can track is the area below the red bar :p youll get used to it.
My Imperial will be my main weapon, but i cant wait to try out the new toys, i might even spec into the mini AR, might be fun having fast RPM with more rounds in the clip :)
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1154
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:59:00 -
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Import Beercase wrote:I still see more Ar on killfeed.. I use scrambler rifles on my logi suits because I never run out of ammo with them. I dont usually carry nanohives on my frontline logi suits. Repper and scanners mainly. I cant say which is better for me scr or ar.. Only thing that I have noticed that good scr rifle user usually outshoots ar user in most situations. Maybe its more skill than weapon stats. I am lucky I can just nuke the good ones with my nades... Cant wait to get my hands on those new weapons
Somehow i feel i was referenced in this post, especially on the ...Woohoo i am at the frontlines after a 600m jog & sprint ...ACTION TI..."BOOM"...ME ....dang lets spawn nearby ....
/thumblewheed blows by as you realise theres no spawn points close
Huf it again for 600m on foot ....
Ill always remember that grenade Import ...alllwaaaayysss!!
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1547
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:09:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:Ahahahah true, you Amarr have such an amazing amount of PG and CPU...!
Have you ever tried a Caldari Assault? lol. If you haven't, please give it a go on the Fitting Tool, so you can understand my suffering :( I have Core Upgrades, Electronics and Engineering all to Level 5 and still I can't fit a M209... Yeah i have, the suit feels like Quantity over Quality, on my amarr suit i can fit a whole lot of Quality stuff on the caldari i can fit one additional module but its gotta be one of the cheap stuff :p Quote:I love the M8. I think that the M8 and the Sleek grenades are the example of how all grenades should be. Either an extremely powerful one with small blast radius for skilled throws, or a "panic" button with low damage and massive AoE. Thats how they are in most FPS games, i am gonna try sticking to the M8, unless i face a well known Explosive heavy team. Quote:The ASCR? I really like that weapon, much more than my occasional Duvolle AR (I doubt I will be touching the Duvolle any longer, once the Rail Rifle is released). My only problem with the ASCR is that I find difficult to get used to the visual recoil while ADS.
I guess I just need more practice with it, but I always end up picking the CRW-04 instead, because I feel very comfortable with it and... to be honest, I think it's more powerful P It used to blind me with each shot the first few weeks, but still on occasion if the opponent is in a dark area, each shot looks as if he cloacks and the only thing you can track is the area below the red bar :p youll get used to it. My Imperial will be my main weapon, but i cant wait to try out the new toys, i might even spec into the mini AR, might be fun having fast RPM with more rounds in the clip :)
Yes, I'd like to train the Combat Rifle as well! But I have much more stuff to do first, the RR is going to be my number 1 priority and I would like to spare some SP to run a decent tank.
Yeah, I try not to call my Gunnlogi because it's almost useless and I end up wasting ISK, but after some time I miss it so much and there is nothing I can do about it. I have to give it a go. So I'm not looking for a competitive tank, I wouldn't bring it in PC, but I need an "ok" tank to run in public games, because I'm absolutely addicted to tanks :(
That said, I've noticed that you joined The Rainbow Effect and I'm sad, because I was hoping to have you in our ranks along our Scrambler specialists 
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
172
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:10:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Most people who complain about them has been gang banged by them, and didn't see them coming. If you force them into CQC, an strafe with your AR, you will win unless you are a shield tanker. I mean, the Assault Rifle is far more consistent with the high ammo, good damage, and the Duvolle insta kills. The Scrambler Rifle wins 1 vs 1 most of the time, but they can't stay in combat for very long without switching to their sidearm. Besides, it only outclasses the AR at prototype with the skills at 5 with prof 3, when the militia Assault Rifle is good with no skills to begin with.
I AGREE, I AGREE, buff the scrambler rifles. NOW CCP. 
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