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Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:02:00 - [1] - Quote People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If that starter fit gets a light weapon......And I dont as a LOGI whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
noobsniper the 2nd Imbalance Lost 91	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:04:00 - [2] - Quote Can I has your isk? just call me scumbag noob
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [3] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Can I has your isk? no Im afraid Ill transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 490	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [4] - Quote I'm having trouble understanding your point through all your unnecessary ellipses.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 284	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [5] - Quote In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Life is killing me.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1854	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:08:00 - [7] - Quote TRANSLATION - T_T "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1383	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:11:00 - [8] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Nothing has happened. It's all suggestion and speculation, Chicken Little. Cheeseburgers.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:11:00 - [9] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: TRANSLATION - T_T read the link below. Who are you anyways? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:13:00 - [10] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. Life is killing me.

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:14:00 - [11] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain.
Ripley Riley 55	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:14:00 - [12] - Quote Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... No paid respecs without massive SP penalties.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:16:00 - [13] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [14] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. That's here we see it's assault who speak. Active scanners is used in majority by assaults to find their kills. Remove ANYTHING of Logi suits. You'll have to remove the Equipements of assault. You don't respec logi ? Don't respec Assault for equipements they lost.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8015	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [15] - Quote ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. Read / Vid / Stream
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [16] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... and thats the point....isn't it.....thanks for sharing and I mean that seriously. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:19:00 - [17] - Quote Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Level 5 on our 2-3 Primary weapons and our Secondary SIR ! And more important it's also 25% PG reduction for our weapons. Damagers Level 5 And almost everything we want.
Wako 75 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 97	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:19:00 - [18] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... in other words you spent a year using something as it was never intended to get an advantage and you want the next thing so you arent left behind. For Riches, For Honor, For The Brotherhood STB 4 Life Dust Will Survive!!!
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 490	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:20:00 - [19] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:21:00 - [20] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Level 5 on our 2-3 Primary weapons and our Secondary SIR ! And more important it's also 25% PG reduction for our weapons. Damagers Level 5 And almost everything we want. Thank you sir!! that'll do nicely with the already 15 million I have in weaponry.. o7 Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:21:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... Our suits is ALREADY on the same level than our peers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't ******* understand than if logi is more powerful it's because Logi suits are holded in majority by Veterans over 15-20 millions of SP. We have proficiency we have skills EVERYWHERE.
God Anpu TheImmortal The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 74	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:23:00 - [22] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Lol now u know how heavy and HMG users feel Stand in the shadow of Ultimate Supremacy.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:25:00 - [23] - Quote Wako 75 wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... in other words you spent a year using something as it was never intended to get an advantage and you want the next thing so you arent left behind. check this out bro....let me share some knowledge with you ...anything they do to the skill tree will give me Sp back...you get that? So why not just give it all back? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:25:00 - [24] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:26:00 - [25] - Quote God Anpu TheImmortal wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Lol now u know how heavy and HMG users feel yeah I have an alt... proto heavy... and have been a staunch supporter of that class getting its punch back. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 839	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:26:00 - [26] - Quote I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:31:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438 Random f tard thinks he knows everything Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 491	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:32:00 - [28] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that. I just checked my entire living room....no spy cam. In short: You are talking out of your a$$ Quit your whining and become good at the game. Get good at sidearms and you'll realise how little this change will impact you. A good scrambler pistol will beat an AR below 20m without any problems. Have you ever witnessed how quickly a heavy dies to scrambler headshots Yes, IF they really introduce this change (and let's face it, you're panicking over speculative changes, lol), the only impact will be that your range is a bit worse. As a logi you can push your team forward though and make up for that. If you're a good logi that is...not a slayer-focused logi.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7238	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:33:00 - [29] - Quote They said they were going to do changes skills, not remove light weapon slot. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:36:00 - [30] - Quote 8213 wrote: I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him. I didnt exploit the suit.I used it for team play .You as a LOGI have to skill into alot of equipment to do that efeectivly .If you deminish the suit to only carrying 1 of 4 sidearms its surviveabilty is reduced.It no longer is worth the cost for the proto equipment that it caries.....For those of you who dont know>the logistics suit is suppossed to be the leadership suit of the VET player who has been getting SP since day one.Lots of different options at the cost of a massive amount of SP. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk

Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:38:00 - [31] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that. I just checked my entire living room....no spy cam. In short: You are talking out of your a$$ Quit your whining and become good at the game. Get good at sidearms and you'll realise how little this change will impact you. A good scrambler pistol will beat an AR below 20m without any problems. Have you ever witnessed how quickly a heavy dies to scrambler headshots Yes, IF they really introduce this change (and let's face it, you're panicking over speculative changes, lol), the only impact will be that your range is a bit worse. As a logi you can push your team forward though and make up for that. If you're a good logi that is...not a slayer-focused logi. Ill be looking for your delicious tears when the new weps come out.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:40:00 - [32] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that. I just checked my entire living room....no spy cam. In short: You are talking out of your a$$ Quit your whining and become good at the game. Get good at sidearms and you'll realise how little this change will impact you. A good scrambler pistol will beat an AR below 20m without any problems. Have you ever witnessed how quickly a heavy dies to scrambler headshots Yes, IF they really introduce this change (and let's face it, you're panicking over speculative changes, lol), the only impact will be that your range is a bit worse. As a logi you can push your team forward though and make up for that. If you're a good logi that is...not a slayer-focused logi. I'm a Amarr Logi running Scrambler Pistol Viziam Prof.4 "You are talking out of your a$$" too i think. Yes i rip out assaults at 20 meters. In pub. Play against Prtotos players sometimes.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:41:00 - [33] - Quote My point is this you can run around with a needle in a starter fit and get killed all day..... and that doesnt cost you 32 million SP.Thats the point Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 494	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote Evicer wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him. I didnt exploit the suit.I used it for team play .You as a LOGI have to skill into alot of equipment to do that efeectivly .If you deminish the suit to only carrying 1 of 4 sidearms its surviveabilty is reduced.It no longer is worth the cost for the proto equipment that it caries.....For those of you who dont know>the logistics suit is suppossed to be the leadership suit of the VET player who has been getting SP since day one.Lots of different options at the cost of a massive amount of SP. And here I thought the logi's main role was to support his team with reps, revives, ammo and spawns...my bad. Didn't know the logi is supposed to be Dust's version of a mothership in EVE The more you post, the more I get the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about. You seem to believe the logi's supposed to be the best at everything at the sole expense of SP. That's ridiculous! Even IF they introduce this change, it won't impact how well you can perform your LOGI role in the least. Given the amount of SP you claim to have, you'd think you're clever enough to switch to an assault suit if you want to slay...and then back to the logi to perform LOGI duties. After all, given all your SP, it shouldn't be hard to skill assault to proto level. It's not as if all the other skills become worthless. Insert pic of crying Dawson's Creek actor
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:44:00 - [35] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him. I didnt exploit the suit.I used it for team play .You as a LOGI have to skill into alot of equipment to do that efeectivly .If you deminish the suit to only carrying 1 of 4 sidearms its surviveabilty is reduced.It no longer is worth the cost for the proto equipment that it caries.....For those of you who dont know>the logistics suit is suppossed to be the leadership suit of the VET player who has been getting SP since day one.Lots of different options at the cost of a massive amount of SP. And here I thought the logi's main role was to support his team with reps, revives, ammo and spawns...my bad. Didn't know the logi is supposed to be Dust's version of a mothership in EVE The more you post, the more I get the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about. You seem to believe the logi's supposed to be the best at everything at the sole expense of SP. That's ridiculous! Even IF they introduce this change, it won't impact how well you can perform your LOGI role in the least. Given the amount of SP you claim to have, you'd think you're clever enough to switch to an assault suit if you want to slay...and then back to the logi to perform LOGI duties. After all, given all your SP, it shouldn't be hard to skill assault to proto level. It's not as if all the other skills become worthless. Insert pic of crying Dawson's Creek actor the more you post the more you sound like a dumbass...what suit cost the most ? Doesnt EVE work in that fashion as well...yer dismissed tool Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 494	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:47:00 - [36] - Quote Yes, against proto players you're at a slight disadvantage. But in return you get all those juicy slots that benefit your team way more than one more AR. It's not as if it cripples you from performing your LOGI duties. Also, it's not as if a proto assault takes that many more shots to die to my scrambler headshots...so the disadvantage isn't all that huge. Do we really have to do the math and see how many more shots it takes to down a proto assault vs a non-proto? Hearing some logis whine here is kinda sad. It makes it clear they really only want an assault with more equipment slots...which would make the logi pointless. PS: Good luck with those respec wishes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8017	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:50:00 - [37] - Quote Evicer wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438 Random f tard thinks he knows everything Looks like random nobody needs to L2Read You're Wrong wrote: [FEEDBACK] Logistics without light weapons - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120712&find=unread Status: There is a plan to change Logistics skills and that will definitely change their role on the battlefield and prevent players from running as GÇ£slayersGÇ¥ in logi suits. If you'll notice, at no point does he state that light weapons will be removed, simply that they plan to change the skills in order to change their role from slayer back to logistics. Wow, I was right? What a surprise Read / Vid / Stream
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 873	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:50:00 - [38] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. besides the fact that the amar logi is supposed to be battle oriented you mean? and by making all logi's less battle effective they are removing the whole point of the amarian logi? amar logi's tank is dmg..we have less ehp than any logi cept the minnie and the minnie is speed tank...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 91	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:52:00 - [39] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Evicer wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438 Random f tard thinks he knows everything Looks like random nobody needs to L2Read You're Wrong wrote: [FEEDBACK] Logistics without light weapons - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120712&find=unread Status: There is a plan to change Logistics skills and that will definitely change their role on the battlefield and prevent players from running as GÇ£slayersGÇ¥ in logi suits. If you'll notice, at no point does he state that light weapons will be removed, simply that they plan to change the skills in order to change their role from slayer back to logistics. Wow, I was right? What a surprise LMao you stopped there you didnt follow that link that he sites that suggest logis with out light weapons?Which he read and which he posted? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 495	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:01:00 - [40] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Evicer wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438 Random f tard thinks he knows everything Looks like random nobody needs to L2Read You're Wrong wrote: [FEEDBACK] Logistics without light weapons - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120712&find=unread Status: There is a plan to change Logistics skills and that will definitely change their role on the battlefield and prevent players from running as GÇ£slayersGÇ¥ in logi suits. If you'll notice, at no point does he state that light weapons will be removed, simply that they plan to change the skills in order to change their role from slayer back to logistics. Wow, I was right? What a surprise How dare you present facts!!! Don't you know, you're only supposed to whine on these forums

R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 495	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:02:00 - [41] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Everything Dies wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. besides the fact that the amar logi is supposed to be battle oriented you mean? and by making all logi's less battle effective they are removing the whole point of the amarian logi? amar logi's tank is dmg..we have less ehp than any logi cept the minnie and the minnie is speed tank... Yes...and speed tanking works so great in the game ever since aim assist was introduced
J'Hiera Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:04:00 - [42] - Quote I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 91	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:05:00 - [43] - Quote J'Hiera wrote: I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome. How much SP do you have? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 597	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:13:00 - [44] - Quote J'Hiera wrote: I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome. Kudos to you for not being an entitled prick like a lot of players on the forum. Nobody said Logis would be crappy killers, in fact, you probably could still dominate in the suit if you have the right modules and gear. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 95	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:20:00 - [45] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: J'Hiera wrote: I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome. Kudos to you for not being an entitled prick like a lot of players on the forum. Nobody said Logis would be crappy killers, in fact, you probably could still dominate in the suit if you have the right modules and gear. You say right moduels and gear....I have all the gear for a support logi completely maxed out.If the suit cannot kill it nullifies the cost of the equipment at proto level and so I wont be around helping assaults Ill be one Except with alot less options to help my team mates out with.Which means no proto rep tool cuz I cant rep myself and no proto nanos because they cost to much in CPU and PG. So I just resupply myself. EDIT : so only the self centered pricks that only care about personal stats win the day Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 598	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:34:00 - [46] - Quote Evicer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: J'Hiera wrote: I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome. Kudos to you for not being an entitled prick like a lot of players on the forum. Nobody said Logis would be crappy killers, in fact, you probably could still dominate in the suit if you have the right modules and gear. You say right moduels and gear....I have all the gear for a support logi completely maxed out.If the suit cannot kill it nullifies the cost of the equipment at proto level and so I wont be around helping assaults Ill be one Except with alot less options to help my team mates out with.Which means no proto rep tool cuz I cant rep myself and no proto nanos because they cost to much in CPU and PG. So I just resupply myself. EDIT : so only the self centered pricks that only care about personal stats win the day ._. What? I was talking about the guy being able to play slayer, not support, with the right gear. And anyways I'm a bit confused at what you're talking about here. I want to respond but I'm REALLY confused :o. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 96	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:43:00 - [47] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Evicer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: J'Hiera wrote: I skilled logi because I wanted to play support. It just so happens it has the greater capacity to kill as well, whatever change they bring logi, I will welcome. Kudos to you for not being an entitled prick like a lot of players on the forum. Nobody said Logis would be crappy killers, in fact, you probably could still dominate in the suit if you have the right modules and gear. You say right moduels and gear....I have all the gear for a support logi completely maxed out.If the suit cannot kill it nullifies the cost of the equipment at proto level and so I wont be around helping assaults Ill be one Except with alot less options to help my team mates out with.Which means no proto rep tool cuz I cant rep myself and no proto nanos because they cost to much in CPU and PG. So I just resupply myself. EDIT : so only the self centered pricks that only care about personal stats win the day ._. What? I was talking about the guy being able to play slayer, not support, with the right gear. And anyways I'm a bit confused at what you're talking about here. I want to respond but I'm REALLY confused :o. Bricked out Gal Logi goes down with C7's and a EXO mass driver end of story Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Black Pamfur Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:44:00 - [48] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... HaHa, I'm supposed to feel bad for you because you decided to train a logistics suit for combat. Try putting millions of sp into actual combat equipment and that getting nerfed to near useless proportions then I might get my tiny violin out. On a side note, YES to full respec, as a Minmatar in dust and eve I want my racial varientz, the only reason I specialized into ar's is because I thought it was minie racial. Because you know minmatar autocannons can fire plasma charged rounds.
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1867	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:52:00 - [49] - Quote Evicer wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: TRANSLATION - T_T read the link below. Who are you anyways? Who are you? "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 96	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:52:00 - [50] - Quote Black Pamfur wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... HaHa, I'm supposed to feel bad for you because you decided to train a logistics suit for combat. Try putting millions of sp into actual combat equipment and that getting nerfed to near useless proportions then I might get my tiny violin out. On a side note, YES to full respec, as a Minmatar in dust and eve I want my racial varientz, the only reason I specialized into ar's is because I thought it was minie racial. Because you know minmatar autocannons can fire plasma charged rounds. no you mistake Im saying without a proper suit there is no reason to SUPPORT........ Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk

Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 96	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:54:00 - [51] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Evicer wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: TRANSLATION - T_T read the link below. Who are you anyways? Who are you? The man you aspire to be.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Priss N6FAA2813 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:24:00 - [52] - Quote LOGI STRIKE ! LOGI STRIKE! LOGI STRIKE!
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 161	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:37:00 - [53] - Quote Mr 32 mil sp, I have not seen you on here,in game, on leader boards or heard of you please post a pic of your skill trees ,specificaly the logi,core and weapon. till then you are a liar Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 103	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:41:00 - [54] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Mr 32 mil sp, I have not seen you on here,in game, on leader boards or heard of you please post a pic of your skill trees ,specificaly the logi,core and weapon. till then you are a liar lol gtfo lmao Idgaf if you dont believe me scrublet.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Jane Madson DIRTY LAUNDRY 514 162	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:54:00 - [55] - Quote Switch over to the smg, try it for a week, and chances are you wont care about that ar anymore. I "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 104	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:00:00 - [56] - Quote Jane Madson wrote: Switch over to the smg, try it for a week, and chances are you wont care about that ar anymore. I scouts with shot guns have a base speed and have a lower signature and that is the only class that can cross open terrain to get into position to do that effectively. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
billy bloodbath2 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:08:00 - [57] - Quote Evicer wrote: People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If the medic starter fit gets a light weapon.....and I don't as a LOGI . We'll be just as squishy with reduced module slots, whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep taking away light weapons on logis, removing bpo's...yeah.... I quit... eff this game. eff ccp.
CharCharOdell 1693	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:09:00 - [58] - Quote Taking away a light weapon slot is a bigger change than the vehicle changes. Deserves respec. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 105	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:10:00 - [59] - Quote billy bloodbath2 wrote: Evicer wrote: People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If the medic starter fit gets a light weapon.....and I don't as a LOGI . We'll be just as squishy with reduced module slots, whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep taking away light weapons on logis, removing bpo's...yeah.... I quit... eff this game. eff ccp. Dont quit bro just go assault they get everything all the time and it'll be that way until we are all playing one class in a vanilla game. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
billy bloodbath2 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:13:00 - [60] - Quote Evicer wrote: billy bloodbath2 wrote: Evicer wrote: People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If the medic starter fit gets a light weapon.....and I don't as a LOGI . We'll be just as squishy with reduced module slots, whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep taking away light weapons on logis, removing bpo's...yeah.... I quit... eff this game. eff ccp. Dont quit bro just go assault they get everything all the time and it'll be that way until we are all playing one class in a vanilla game. lol so don't quit because the game can still get worse? destiny, you cant come soon enough...

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 931	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:19:00 - [61] - Quote Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? 6 or 7 I think
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 106	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:22:00 - [62] - Quote low genius wrote: Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? yeah see the little part that I omitted there is that I already have 15 million into weaponry....they can cry and try to take the slayer out of the suit but they cant take the slayer out of the player. and yes I coined that phrase. 6 or 7 I think Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
CRYPT3C W0LF CryNet Systems 13	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:42:00 - [63] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... I've looked over all 4 pages... No way in you have 35 million SP, take a picture, and I'll believe you. As for your pointless argument, keep whining. Glad they nerfed the logis just for you Play as a Scout or heavy and see what they're going through, they are fully entitled to complain with good reason, but you hardly ever see them do... I for one, have played and maxed out logi's, and honestly, I fully support bringing down the logies even though I've spent 6 months just for Proto fits... have fun playing at a normal level playing field compared to you're God like Slayer/logi fit Assuming Direct Control O.O
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 107	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:49:00 - [64] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... I've looked over all 4 pages... No way in you have 35 million SP, take a picture, and I'll believe you. As for your pointless argument, keep whining. Glad they nerfed the logis just for you Play as a Scout or heavy and see what they're going through, they are fully entitled to complain with good reason, but you hardly ever see them do... I for one, have played and maxed out logi's, and honestly, I fully support bringing down the logies even though I've spent 6 months just for Proto fits... have fun playing at a normal level playing field compared to you're God like Slayer/logi fit didnt say 35 said 32 and I have an 18 million heavy.....next Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Tectonic Fusion 602	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:50:00 - [65] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway I can't use sidearms as a defensive weapon unless it's a lvl 4 version. I will not give up my toxin AR for a basic scrambler pistol... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
CRYPT3C W0LF CryNet Systems 13	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:52:00 - [66] - Quote Evicer wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... I've looked over all 4 pages... No way in you have 35 million SP, take a picture, and I'll believe you. As for your pointless argument, keep whining. Glad they nerfed the logis just for you Play as a Scout or heavy and see what they're going through, they are fully entitled to complain with good reason, but you hardly ever see them do... I for one, have played and maxed out logi's, and honestly, I fully support bringing down the logies even though I've spent 6 months just for Proto fits... have fun playing at a normal level playing field compared to you're God like Slayer/logi fit didnt say 35 said 32 and I have an 18 million heavy.....next Sorry, I cant understand you. You might want to add some punctuation. If you did'nt learn that in grade 6, I would be happy to show you Assuming Direct Control O.O
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 107	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:53:00 - [67] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Evicer wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... I've looked over all 4 pages... No way in you have 35 million SP, take a picture, and I'll believe you. As for your pointless argument, keep whining. Glad they nerfed the logis just for you Play as a Scout or heavy and see what they're going through, they are fully entitled to complain with good reason, but you hardly ever see them do... I for one, have played and maxed out logi's, and honestly, I fully support bringing down the logies even though I've spent 6 months just for Proto fits... have fun playing at a normal level playing field compared to you're God like Slayer/logi fit didnt say 35 said 32 and I have an 18 million heavy.....next Sorry, I cant understand you. You might want to add some punctuation. If you did'nt learn that in grade 6, I would be happy to show you apparently you flunked out of reading comprehension. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
CRYPT3C W0LF CryNet Systems 13	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:57:00 - [68] - Quote Evicer wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: TRANSLATION - T_T read the link below. Who are you anyways? hur dur dur, have fun QQing on the forums!!! I'm still waiting see your skill tree with 32 million SP Assuming Direct Control O.O
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 37	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:07:00 - [69] - Quote It's a damn shame you dumped 32mil SP into a few things to specialize instead of many things to generalize, and that one thing you do really well got nerfed. Really. It's a damn shame.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1170	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:08:00 - [70] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. I read it more as "WAAAAAHHHH, CCP IS TAKING AWAY MY DO-IT-ALL DROPSUIT, WAAAAHHHH, I PLAY ASSAULT BUT I SPEC'D LOGI SO NOW I WANT A RESPEC BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THE LOGI SUIT WOULD ALWAYS BE THE GOD ASSAULT SUIT!!! WAAAHH, I SO ANGRY NOW GIVE ME RESPEC CCP BEFORE STOMP MY FEET AND HOLD MY BREATH SOME MORE!!!!" So hilarious.... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

jin foxdale Jedi Slime. 118	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:09:00 - [71] - Quote I'm just jumping onto the busiest logi thread here, so I don't have to start one - is it possible (from a programming aspect) for CCP to just make the logi's hitbox a bit bigger, like it was in chrome? That'd make them think twice about leading the charge, and no one would lose their light weapons!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 110	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:11:00 - [72] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: It's a damn shame you dumped 32mil SP into a few things to specialize instead of many things to generalize, and that one thing you do really well got nerfed. Really. It's a damn shame. no what im saying is is that I wont be supporting a team if the survivability of the suit goes to hell and so I dont need proto equipment to play assault. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1282	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:25:00 - [73] - Quote what exactly of your 32 mil sp will you not be making use of as an assault? I assume the majority of your spent sp should be useful in your assault role as well when you get your new suit, assuming you don't already have one because i'm at 30 with two suits multiple weapons and all my cores maxed out.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 111	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:31:00 - [74] - Quote calisk galern wrote: what exactly of your 32 mil sp will you not be making use of as an assault? I assume the majority of your spent sp should be useful in your assault role as well when you get your new suit, assuming you don't already have one because i'm at 30 with two suits multiple weapons and all my cores maxed out. equipment for starters...there will be no need for proto equipment as the Cpu/pg cost is to high for assault suits. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1387	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:35:00 - [75] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway If sidearms are really as good as you claim and can even rival primary weapons, why do you suggest making us use them? If they are clearly as good an combat effective as you claim, then restricting us to them won't solve anything now will it? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 111	Posted - 2013.11.27 01:59:00 - [76] - Quote I want to just clarify that I have been using the Amarr dropsuit since uprising released before it had 4 lows.. Since the beginning.....I could've went assault but at the time I wanted to help out my corp mates and play a support logi. I run solo alot and help out blue berries all the time trying to get uplinks into good spots for heavies to spawn in on giving ammo and repping people and occasionally surviving fire fights with my standard weapon with prof.5 If the logi is reduced to side arm only thats all over with....it'll just be about me again ...a number 1 I wont need all that Sp into equipment for playing support..I wont spend that ISK on that suit as far as equipment to be reduced to using a pistol.Not going to happen. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
DEFENDEROF theknight Imbalance Lost 1	Posted - 2013.11.27 02:23:00 - [77] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Can I has your isk? Shut up noob Must get more milk!!!
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 142	Posted - 2013.11.27 02:28:00 - [78] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... i want a respec out of dropships because all it takes is 1 kid to spawn with a forge gun to render 5 mil sp useless recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1171	Posted - 2013.11.27 13:50:00 - [79] - Quote Atiim wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway If sidearms are really as good as you claim and can even rival primary weapons, why do you suggest making us use them? If they are clearly as good an combat effective as you claim, then restricting us to them won't solve anything now will it? It cuts down on range and when people don't have an AR (or variant thereof), they think twice about leading a charge. I am not saying that it can't be done, just that the majority of "logis" would definitely reconsider leading that charge if they didn't have their trusty crutch with them. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 499	Posted - 2013.11.27 19:13:00 - [80] - Quote Evicer wrote: Jane Madson wrote: Switch over to the smg, try it for a week, and chances are you wont care about that ar anymore. I scouts with shot guns have a base speed and have a lower signature and that is the only class that can cross open terrain to get into position to do that effectively. Right...Minmatar assaults are awful with SMGs Seriously, stop posting before digging yourself into a deeper hole

R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 499	Posted - 2013.11.27 19:15:00 - [81] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. I read it more as "WAAAAAHHHH, CCP IS TAKING AWAY MY DO-IT-ALL DROPSUIT, WAAAAHHHH, I PLAY ASSAULT BUT I SPEC'D LOGI SO NOW I WANT A RESPEC BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THE LOGI SUIT WOULD ALWAYS BE THE GOD ASSAULT SUIT!!! WAAAHH, I SO ANGRY NOW GIVE ME RESPEC CCP BEFORE STOMP MY FEET AND HOLD MY BREATH SOME MORE!!!!" So hilarious.... This pretty much sums up this entire thread
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1524	Posted - 2013.11.27 19:16:00 - [82] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... What people don't realise is nothing needs nerfing, things just need buffing but nubs seem to just want less rather than better. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 413	Posted - 2013.11.27 19:17:00 - [83] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. You know that assaults have also all relevant skills maxed, but are way more trained in killing than logis?
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2060	Posted - 2013.11.27 19:20:00 - [84] - Quote Evicer wrote: People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If the medic starter fit gets a light weapon.....and I don't as a LOGI . We'll be just as squishy with reduced module slots, whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep People are inferring from a CCP thread where threads of the week are highlighted in a "This week in Dust" segment they do each week. The title of that thread mentions removing light weapons from logis. The Dev mentions that in the future they'll be adjusting the bonuses of logis to make them more support oriented. Then there's a Dev post imploring us not to worry because this is not going to happen for a while. I personally don't believe he was referring to the removal of light weapons. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.


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