DUST Search - 32 million SP to be reduced to a starter fit

8213 wrote:

I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point.

What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change?

If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG.

If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit.

So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him.

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Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:02:00 - [1] - Quote People want Logis just to be medics.....wait If that starter fit gets a light weapon......And I dont as a LOGI whats the point? Full respec CCP.....yep Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
noobsniper the 2nd Imbalance Lost 91	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:04:00 - [2] - Quote Can I has your isk? just call me scumbag noob
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [3] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Can I has your isk? no Im afraid Ill transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 490	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [4] - Quote I'm having trouble understanding your point through all your unnecessary ellipses.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 284	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:07:00 - [5] - Quote In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Life is killing me.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 87	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1854	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:08:00 - [7] - Quote TRANSLATION - T_T "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1383	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:11:00 - [8] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Nothing has happened. It's all suggestion and speculation, Chicken Little. Cheeseburgers.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:11:00 - [9] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: TRANSLATION - T_T read the link below. Who are you anyways? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:13:00 - [10] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. Life is killing me.

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:14:00 - [11] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain.
Ripley Riley 55	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:14:00 - [12] - Quote Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... No paid respecs without massive SP penalties.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:16:00 - [13] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [14] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... How is it defunct? All that they are (supposedly) doing is limiting your combat effectiveness so that Logis are no longer the gods of the battlefield. Fulfill your intended role--i.e. that of a force multiplier; keep them healthy, keep them supplied, run your scanners and above all, learn to love REs for they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in this game. That's here we see it's assault who speak. Active scanners is used in majority by assaults to find their kills. Remove ANYTHING of Logi suits. You'll have to remove the Equipements of assault. You don't respec logi ? Don't respec Assault for equipements they lost.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8015	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [15] - Quote ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. Read / Vid / Stream
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:17:00 - [16] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... and thats the point....isn't it.....thanks for sharing and I mean that seriously. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:19:00 - [17] - Quote Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Level 5 on our 2-3 Primary weapons and our Secondary SIR ! And more important it's also 25% PG reduction for our weapons. Damagers Level 5 And almost everything we want.
Wako 75 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 97	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:19:00 - [18] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... in other words you spent a year using something as it was never intended to get an advantage and you want the next thing so you arent left behind. For Riches, For Honor, For The Brotherhood STB 4 Life Dust Will Survive!!!
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 490	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:20:00 - [19] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:21:00 - [20] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Evicer wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Logi is a FoTM ? You're kidding me right ? Majority of logi is logi since One year or more and is more 15 million SP. You say Logi is OP ? You don't realise than when Logi will be Assault after the Logi Nerf. We'll all be the best assault possible. Killing everything we see in 0.05sec. We remove Sp from equipements and we have Proficiency 5 on all our weapons Max Armor and Max Shield. When We will become Assault just go and Hide you're ass because you'll cry of pain. yeah see they just dont get it..17 million in drop suit Upgrades ...How many LVl 5 Proficiencies is that? Level 5 on our 2-3 Primary weapons and our Secondary SIR ! And more important it's also 25% PG reduction for our weapons. Damagers Level 5 And almost everything we want. Thank you sir!! that'll do nicely with the already 15 million I have in weaponry.. o7 Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:21:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Evicer wrote: No I'm afraid I'll transfer it all to an alt and tear your face off as an assault for asking me such a dumb question.... So you want to re-level all of those core skills again on an alt? You want to abandon a character because CCP wants to bring your chosen dropsuit down to the similar level of your peers? P.s. - the light weapon skills you leveled on this character WILL work if you switched to assault. Not sure you knew that. That is probably the most asinine thing I have heard and in another life I worked retail... Our suits is ALREADY on the same level than our peers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't ******* understand than if logi is more powerful it's because Logi suits are holded in majority by Veterans over 15-20 millions of SP. We have proficiency we have skills EVERYWHERE.
God Anpu TheImmortal The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 74	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:23:00 - [22] - Quote Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Lol now u know how heavy and HMG users feel Stand in the shadow of Ultimate Supremacy.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:25:00 - [23] - Quote Wako 75 wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... in other words you spent a year using something as it was never intended to get an advantage and you want the next thing so you arent left behind. check this out bro....let me share some knowledge with you ...anything they do to the skill tree will give me Sp back...you get that? So why not just give it all back? Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:25:00 - [24] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:26:00 - [25] - Quote God Anpu TheImmortal wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... Lol now u know how heavy and HMG users feel yeah I have an alt... proto heavy... and have been a staunch supporter of that class getting its punch back. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 839	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:26:00 - [26] - Quote I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:31:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: random nobody continues freaking out about theoretical changes that are still months away. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1534438#post1534438 Random f tard thinks he knows everything Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 491	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:32:00 - [28] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Evicer wrote: Everything Dies wrote: In other words, "CCP let me respec into the next FoTM." Got it. Yeah cuz I just spent a year skilling up a class thats now defunct... If you truly believe a logi with only a sidearm is defunct, that means 2 things: 1) You are a crappy logi in the first place. 2) You have no clue how good sidearms really are. As a logi, this change wouldn't affect me at all. I run sidearms only 99.9% of the time as a logi, and in most cases it doesn't negatively impact my game at all. Hell, I beat most AR users with my scrambler pistol in CQC anyway You are NOT a logi. Or you're running full proto / Advanced in pub against Noobs to say that. I just checked my entire living room....no spy cam. In short: You are talking out of your a$$ Quit your whining and become good at the game. Get good at sidearms and you'll realise how little this change will impact you. A good scrambler pistol will beat an AR below 20m without any problems. Have you ever witnessed how quickly a heavy dies to scrambler headshots Yes, IF they really introduce this change (and let's face it, you're panicking over speculative changes, lol), the only impact will be that your range is a bit worse. As a logi you can push your team forward though and make up for that. If you're a good logi that is...not a slayer-focused logi.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7238	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:33:00 - [29] - Quote They said they were going to do changes skills, not remove light weapon slot. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 90	Posted - 2013.11.26 21:36:00 - [30] - Quote 8213 wrote: I'm suspicious. You claim to be a closed beta vet, yet I only started seeing you in game and on this board in the last week or so... but that's off point. What exactly are they doing to Logi fits? Can you tell me the exact change? If you're an Assault players that exploited the Logi suit, than deal with it. Did you honestly think that a suit with more CPU/PG, the same amount of high/low slots AND 3 equipment slots was going to fly in this game? All other suits have a balance and sacrifice to them, Logi doesn't have anything that balances out the fact that they got tons of slots and CPU/PG. If you use a Logi suit for LOGISTICS (i.e.- moving equipment, medic, support, hacking, etc) then you have nothing to fear. They won't change the core intention of the suit. Yes, you have the right to defend and get get kills with the suit which they won't change either, they're just taking away the exploit. So, don't blame the QQers or CCP; blame the Assault Logis that exploited the suit in the first place. It would be like Barry Bonds complaining that they took his steroids away from him. I didnt exploit the suit.I used it for team play .You as a LOGI have to skill into alot of equipment to do that efeectivly .If you deminish the suit to only carrying 1 of 4 sidearms its surviveabilty is reduced.It no longer is worth the cost for the proto equipment that it caries.....For those of you who dont know>the logistics suit is suppossed to be the leadership suit of the VET player who has been getting SP since day one.Lots of different options at the cost of a massive amount of SP. Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk



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