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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:28:00 -
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I have been wondering lately. Why do people skill into fotms? Does it make them feel better knowing they are using the best gear possible? I mean, what challenge is their in using (usually) much better suits or op weapons. Does it create an illusion of being better?
The way I see it, is as a crutch... It makes the game boring, seing everyone use the same things. It is also a complete waste of skill points since they usually get nerfed to hell by CCP. Oh, and one last thing: no one will remember you as a good player, ever. People get remembered by using hard to use weapons and kicking ass with them.
So, to all you fotm users out there (I am looking at you aim assisted duvolle armor tanked gallente logi), why are you doing this?
"Please don't"
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
884
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:32:00 -
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I use a standard AR with a gallente starter fit, do I count as FOTM? ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
443
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:33:00 -
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*puts on hipster glasses* I was gal logi before it was cool.
Assault dropship gets blown up....
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5355
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:34:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote: So, to all you fotm users out there (I am looking at you aim assisted duvolle armor tanked gallente logi), why are you doing this?
I specced into Gallogi right at the start of Uprising, well before the armour buff. I specced into SCRs because they were new and rifles were familiar to me. I also used the Duvolle because I'd used it all through Chromosome, so I was used to it.
Neither of those was FotM then. They are now. I'm using what I'm used to, what I've used for months, and even if I cared about being labelled an FotM chaser there's nothing I can do about it because it takes so long to spec into anything else.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
224
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:35:00 -
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Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie.
Nuff Said
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
147
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:37:00 -
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Adelia Lafayette wrote:*puts on hipster glasses* I was gal logi before it was cool. This. I stuck with gallogi and plates through the countless "shields are still superior threads" As for the duvolles and aa, ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
No one ever pays me in gum :<
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2998
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:37:00 -
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Vindictive of being proto stomped or maybe you're like Nyain San and need a crutch or maybe you're just cynical and love to destroy. |
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1333
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:37:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:I use a standard AR with a gallente starter fit, do I count as FOTM? ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) FOTMs are usually composed of proto stuff
"Please don't"
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1709
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:38:00 -
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I've used the Scrambler Rifle ever since it came out in Uprising.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Knights of Eternal Darkness
257
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:39:00 -
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I specced into the scrambler rifle the day it came out, does that make me a FOTM chaser as at the time it wasn't all that popular and wasn't considered OP >_>
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:41:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I have been wondering lately. Why do people skill into fotms? Does it make them feel better knowing they are using the best gear possible? I mean, what challenge is their in using (usually) much better suits or op weapons. Does it create an illusion of being better?
The way I see it, is as a crutch... It makes the game boring, seing everyone use the same things. It is also a complete waste of skill points since they usually get nerfed to hell by CCP. Oh, and one last thing: no one will remember you as a good player, ever. People get remembered by using hard to use weapons and kicking ass with them.
So, to all you fotm users out there (I am looking at you aim assisted duvolle armor tanked gallente logi), why are you doing this?
Because they want to win and will use anything that gives them an advantage .. sadly CCP can;t balance things and keep ending up making things OP and therefore creating new FoTM's .. if they could balance things in a rock paper scissors way then the game would be fine but they just don;t have the ability to do something like that
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1334
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:43:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I've used the Scrambler Rifle ever since it came out in Uprising. So have I . I was adressing myself more specifically at nyan san. I am just trying to understand the mentality behind all this.
"Please don't"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4249
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:43:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie. I would if I lost the match.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
519
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:43:00 -
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I'm a minlogi and min scout. I mainly use a min scout with shotty, but if I'm feeling lazy I'll use duvolle with 3 cx dmg mods, I specced into duvolle when I first started playing dust, and it comes in handy when the whole other team is using it and I die in .5 seconds in my maxed out advanced scout, wich gets approximately the base HP of a caldari assault with nothing on it...
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie. I would if I lost the match.
*feels bad*
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:44:00 -
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because we're skilling into everything. |
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Oswald Rehnquist
670
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:45:00 -
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I would make the separation of becoming fotm and chasing fotm, but as for the why...
Its the same reason people use any cheap/exploit/etc, to boost their ego, have fun, raise kdr, and abuse others while doing it.
Its no different than a 3 man kdr machine that we see too. (1 reviver, 1 shooter, 1 sacrificial alt)
Edit:
Also I doubt 60% of the player base was "interested" in flaylocks until they were found to be abusive, again its all about the path of least resistance and lowest skill required.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:46:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I've used the Scrambler Rifle ever since it came out in Uprising. So have I ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) . I was adressing myself more specifically at nyan san. I am just trying to understand the mentality behind all this. Well then I've also had AR Prof 1 since I was still a noob....![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie. I would if I lost the match. *feels bad* But that was a really close match, you shouldn't feel bad about losing that.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:48:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie. I would if I lost the match. *feels bad* But that was a really close match, you shouldn't feel bad about losing that. And I wen 34-1 solo earlier using the Imperial ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png)
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
3975
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Flix Keptick wrote: So, to all you fotm users out there (I am looking at you aim assisted duvolle armor tanked gallente logi), why are you doing this?
I specced into Gallogi right at the start of Uprising, well before the armour buff. I specced into SCRs because they were new and rifles were familiar to me. I also used the Duvolle because I'd used it all through Chromosome, so I was used to it. Neither of those was FotM then. They are now. I'm using what I'm used to, what I've used for months, and even if I cared about being labelled an FotM chaser there's nothing I can do about it because it takes so long to spec into anything else. Arkena, you have proto Amarr Assault and Proto Gal Assault. Your argument is invalid.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
595
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:51:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I have been wondering lately. Why do people skill into fotms? Does it make them feel better knowing they are using the best gear possible? I mean, what challenge is their in using (usually) much better suits or op weapons. Does it create an illusion of being better?
The way I see it, is as a crutch... It makes the game boring, seing everyone use the same things. It is also a complete waste of skill points since they usually get nerfed to hell by CCP. Oh, and one last thing: no one will remember you as a good player, ever. People get remembered by using hard to use weapons and kicking ass with them.
So, to all you fotm users out there, why are you doing this?
Edit: (ok, there has been a bit of a misunderstanding) the players that were skilled into the current fotm before it became one should not feel included in my rant, I was adressing this post at players who skilled into it because they knew it is the current FOTM
Coming from someone who has considered using FOTM, it's because I want to get some leverage. Like. I didn't get the scanner(I was gonna grab it way later) until EVERYONE and their mommas started using them. We needed leverage so I sacrificed for some leverage.
At the end of the day tho, I don't really care. I skill into what makes me better at my Support Assault role.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Ridire Greine
77
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Because, when the point of the game is to kill, and kill well, you want the best of the best. Nobody can say they would actually feel bad if they went 40-0, and not be lying. If anything they help point out where imbalances lie. I would if I lost the match. *feels bad* But that was a really close match, you shouldn't feel bad about losing that. And I wen 34-1 solo earlier using the Imperial ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png)
I went 46-2, using the CRW-04...... in a Scout suit.
![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png)
I think I've found my new TAR.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2450
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:52:00 -
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FOTM?
Rifles have been sacred for much longer than a month. They get more sacred every update. Soon we'll have more to choose from!
FOTM is subject to change. A Fine Rifle is Forever.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1335
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:54:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:I have been wondering lately. Why do people skill into fotms? Does it make them feel better knowing they are using the best gear possible? I mean, what challenge is their in using (usually) much better suits or op weapons. Does it create an illusion of being better?
The way I see it, is as a crutch... It makes the game boring, seing everyone use the same things. It is also a complete waste of skill points since they usually get nerfed to hell by CCP. Oh, and one last thing: no one will remember you as a good player, ever. People get remembered by using hard to use weapons and kicking ass with them.
So, to all you fotm users out there (I am looking at you aim assisted duvolle armor tanked gallente logi), why are you doing this? Because they want to win and will use anything that gives them an advantage .. sadly CCP can;t balance things and keep ending up making things OP and therefore creating new FoTM's .. if they could balance things in a rock paper scissors way then the game would be fine but they just don;t have the ability to do something like that That is the kind of answer I was looking for. You also expose the source of the problem: CCP is too good at breaking stuff
"Please don't"
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Oswald Rehnquist
670
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:54:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:FOTM?
Rifles have been sacred for much longer than a month. They get more sacred every update. Soon we'll have more to choose from!
FOTM is subject to change. A Fine Rifle is Forever.
Shotty, he was talking FOTM, not FOTY, lol
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
1553
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:56:00 -
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Because some people like a certain style of suit and weapon.
Real answer:Cause after it gets nerfed they can come here and complain and ask for a respec. |
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1335
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:57:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:FOTM?
Rifles have been sacred for much longer than a month. They get more sacred every update. Soon we'll have more to choose from!
FOTM is subject to change. A Fine Rifle is Forever.
Shotty, he was talking FOTM, not FOTY, lol More like fit of the game
"Please don't"
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:58:00 -
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They follow cod doctrine, they want to pad their k/d for the leader boards. Ultimately k/dr isn't really relevant in most discussions. |
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2450
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:02:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:They follow cod doctrine, they want to pad their k/d for the leader boards. Ultimately k/dr isn't really relevant in most discussions. "KDR > ALL"
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