Right so you think its fine for someone to pay for a product then for it to just magically disappear?

In all fairness there really isn't much in this game that is worth spending money on.
Like i have said on other posts. I dont ever buy boosters because i gain SP's while i sleep. Heck i take breaks from this game for weeks at a time because the problems in the game and lack of content is very boring. Right now i am in such a break its been about a week now since i last logged into dust i might even wait till 1.7 comes out.

Giving me aurum for my BPO's just won't work I still have several thousand aurum sitting around that i have had for months now because there isnt anything in game i find worthy of buying.

Yes most real world stores only accept a return for an item after say 30 days. Most stores also would not be directly responsible for making the item useless.

I would love more things to spend money on as well but development can only work so fast like cosmetics.

This in and of itself is joke-worthy.

IWS, you are a man of many talents, but basic social and conversational skills are not among them. You started this thread with the intent to 'troll', but like so many others on the forums having no conceptual understanding of what trolling truly is and merely make yourself out to look like an idiot while enraging both those who oppose and support your point.

As a council, we're supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard. This is not to say that we're better than anyone else, but we're /expected/ to maintain a certain air of humility and civility. While we are not forbidden to troll or be rude, it is extremely poor taste to do so, especially regarding such a 'hot button' issue when people are legitimately upset about CCP handling an issue in a poor fashion. Especially when considering that many people (even if they are mistaken) value the word of the CPM as if it was something relayed to them by CCP or that a 'troll post' is what the CPM is relaying to CCP on the behalf the of the players.

The BPO "Issue" is a very real one, and while some people (xLuca, I'm looking at you) need to seriously tone down their posting and stop making new threads.... IWS you need to kindly shut up and take your poor attitude elsewhere. I fully believe that removing BPO's is the right call. However I believe that CCP handled this very poorly and strongly cautioned them beforehand that a simple refund would provoke an aggressive response because the perceived value of the purchase needs to be preserved.

At the very least, CCP will not touch -any- other BPO's in people's inventories without coming up with a solid plan to preserve the value of the purchase.


As my Addendum to the initial quote : IWS, if you think you're saving the community from itself... I suppose it is my job to save the community (and CCP) from you.

This post was missed but it's a good observation.

Both sides of the fence are tired. The natives are restless. With that comes conflict and confusion.

I really would like to add to your opinion but I don't really feel like typing novels.

This in and of itself is joke-worthy.

IWS, you are a man of many talents, but basic social and conversational skills are not among them. You started this thread with the intent to 'troll', but like so many others on the forums having no conceptual understanding of what trolling truly is and merely make yourself out to look like an idiot while enraging both those who oppose and support your point.

As a council, we're supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard. This is not to say that we're better than anyone else, but we're /expected/ to maintain a certain air of humility and civility. While we are not forbidden to troll or be rude, it is extremely poor taste to do so, especially regarding such a 'hot button' issue when people are legitimately upset about CCP handling an issue in a poor fashion. Especially when considering that many people (even if they are mistaken) value the word of the CPM as if it was something relayed to them by CCP or that a 'troll post' is what the CPM is relaying to CCP on the behalf the of the players.

The BPO "Issue" is a very real one, and while some people (xLuca, I'm looking at you) need to seriously tone down their posting and stop making new threads.... IWS you need to kindly shut up and take your poor attitude elsewhere. I fully believe that removing BPO's is the right call. However I believe that CCP handled this very poorly and strongly cautioned them beforehand that a simple refund would provoke an aggressive response because the perceived value of the purchase needs to be preserved.

At the very least, CCP will not touch -any- other BPO's in people's inventories without coming up with a solid plan to preserve the value of the purchase.


As my Addendum to the initial quote : IWS, if you think you're saving the community from itself... I suppose it is my job to save the community (and CCP) from you.

BPO whiners are extremely obsessively selective of 'violated terms.'

By their logic:

SP Refunds are against Consumer laws as well especially if any of them have been boosted and spent into vehicles or previously before infantry. These are skill point you work just to spend into specific vehicle skills are no longer going to the game as of 1.7.

You should be demanding your real money you paid into boosters for to buy those 'powerups' then compensation for time spent acquiring the sp to buy that skill.

They should also be trying to sue over downtime every day if they have a passive or active booster that runs through that duration.

Hell by their logic;

Software Updates are against Consumer laws as well, because its not what they paid for.

Which would just make about every console game in existence illegal to own because nearly all of them do the quick first time startup download after you put the disk in these days.

most of us who want to see this game in a far better place where we'd be more willing to throw money at the game then

All I ask is that Ironwolf kindly shut up and stop attempting diplomacy or trying to 'make people feel better'.

You suck at it, and all you do is offend people on both sides and make bad situations worse.

Thanks.

PREACH BROTHER

I know who is and ISNT getting my vote next year! (hopefully us DUST mercs might even get the chance to vote!!)

If Nova Knife had his way you wouldn't be able to vote for any of us.

Saving the community from itself.

but you would probably not be a CPM either....

I could live under a nova knife regime...

this thread makes you out to be a pretty pompous jerk.
when we can vote I assure you,

you wont have mine.

If it's just vehicle militia BPOs being removed, thats cool, but if it's dropsuit BPOs thats a problem...

Militia Vehicle Modules that are being removed.

And, hear this, the modules they represent don't even exist anymore!

Sure, let 'em have it.

Like it'll be worth anything...

I don't even care anymore, all I ask is that CCP fixes aiming, all I want.

BPO whiners are extremely obsessively selective of 'violated terms.'

By their logic:

SP Refunds are against Consumer laws as well especially if any of them have been boosted and spent into vehicles or previously before infantry. These are skill point you work just to spend into specific vehicle skills are no longer going to the game as of 1.7.

You should be demanding your real money you paid into boosters for to buy those 'powerups' then compensation for time spent acquiring the sp to buy that skill.

They should also be trying to sue over downtime every day if they have a passive or active booster that runs through that duration.

Hell by their logic;

Software Updates are against Consumer laws as well, because its not what they paid for.

Which would just make about every console game in existence illegal to own because nearly all of them do the quick first time startup download after you put the disk in these days.

At this point I would like to personally thank you for being a CPM and representing the paying player base......after all isn't that your job? Oh but you weren't elected to your position by the mob or a vote by the paying customer player base.....

One more thing. Thanks for doing a great job as CPM and letting us know that they would be getting rid of BPO"S before we bought them.....Stellar performance, and keep up the good work.

You my friend get "The Golden Tard Star"

Slow clap...

Congratulations on entirely misrepresenting the point, you'll do well.

Just for the cheap seats, let me define the actual problem.

Here's what it's not:
1. It's not that 4 limited value soon to be obsolete BPO's are being removed

2. It's not that everyone complaining is an entitled cry-baby who can't read a contract

Here's what it is:
3. It is that CCP advertised to the player base that they should spend money to get AUR, to purchase BPO before they went off the market

4. It is that CCP made a representation that BPO's in inventory would be safe

5. It is that it is now evident that BPO's in inventory are not safe

6. It is that customers purchased AUR based on the above representation by CCP, and feel they have been misled by points 3, 4, and 5

7. It is that AUR refund that would only allow customers to purchase limited use items, as there is no longer the option of purchasing BPOs within the Dust ecosystem

8. It is that a number of customers are seeking a refund outside of the offered AUR, as the Dust ecosystem holds less value to them with the removal of BPOs

Let me know if I need to dumb it down for you a bit more, and maybe think twice before you post hyperbole when representing of someone else's viewpoint.

Give me a crystal ball that works dammit. Mines been broken for a while.

Your comment is a poor attempt to fain ignorance....The truth is you are "in the Know" and if you are not then why are you a CPM?

You're in IRC everyday(more in there than on the game)You talk to CCP employees in a 1 on 1 basis. Again if you are not doing these things then why are you a CPM?

Btw wtg go on"flaming" the player base and maintaining forum rules