So for instance a subscription for 30,000 AUR you get a 30 day active booster and a type of sBPO for a dropsuit of choice and an weapon of choice (including an officer weapon.)

Double the current content and a tangible Eve/Dust connection and then, maybe you can sell subscriptions.
This is another year out, minimum.
Again, something probably not to even begin to consider until the PS4 port is ready to roll.

Well if you want to talk about what you think a subscription program would look like I am all ears.

This wouldn't either, as of right now people do get "free" officers weapons. This was a suggestion to include an incentive for possibly a premium subscription.

Personally, I think that a subscription service would give a subscriber something more than what others get - as an incentive and reward for being a subscriber; similar to the PSN Plus system. Furthermore, because of the limitations of the game, there could be a multi-tiered subscription like cable companies and phone companies have, where the higher your plan the more services and options you get for the subscription.

As far as being restrictive as to only having that which can be only purchased through the market, as Jaysyn Larrisen mentioned, I would not necessarily agree to this as other subscription services have things that you can't purchase as a "stand-alone" or a "ala-carte" service.

I do think that a discount for the Marketplace would be good, but not a 25% discount as Jaysyn said, unless that was on a higher subscription plan. Maybe have it tiered where each tier would have a different discount amount.

Right now, I regularly purchase Boosters. So for me a subscription would have to include some type of booster. I also purchase my proto suits and sr rifles to continue playing. I do have my "BPO" suits and equipment, but very seldom do I use these as they do not allow me the abilities to take on others the way I like to take them on in battle. For me, it I could purchase officer weapons, I would - just as I do proto gear. Do I care if I loose my proto gear in a battle? Not really because I just go get some more. While I know some people have difficulty replacing their equipment, I do not seem to have that problem. I would like to see something affordable for boosting my other characters. As of now, I buy boosters for my main char, and not my other chars because they are too expensive for what you get; I am not paying 28000 for less than half the booster power that I collect on my main char - even though I would like to get boosters for them.

For me to be a subscriber, the subscription would have to have things that interest me; things that I feel I need. Just as I pay a cable company for the Internet connection, I do not also subscribe to their "TV" service, nor their "telephone" service. Just as I have my cell phone, I only have the basic service, and do not pay for internet service on the phone. So what I am saying here is that for me to pay a subscription, they need to offer me something that makes it worth my while. The same would have to go for DUST. More-over, I do not purchase the PSN Plus system; while they offer many great deals and discounts, none of them interest me. So for this to succeed DUST would need to include things (through different levels, possibly) that people would want to use.

How would you address the red roping? One of my larger issues

A quick example would be world of warcraft red rope, new zone opens up, but only if you pay now (and wow has been slowly merging its oldest expansions into basic wow so it fits the condition of red roping.)

I think a discount is safe to offer on monthly things.

hell no, free officer weapons is like furthest thing from most of the cpm's minds, we know how much officer gear sells for in new eden we wouldn't want these things dropping that much more often.

The CPM should keep pushing the possibilities of vanity/visual benefits as a path of monetisation. With heavy emphasis on corps and corporate identity (to the point of entire corps posting and acting almost exclusively in-character (grr goons!)) in New Eden i see a potent market for several offerings, such as:

Personal and Corpwide custom suit/vehicle paint schemes. Can be made available in tiers e.g.:

I) Generic colors from limited pallette
II) Above with extended pallete and simple patterns (classic camos, fractals etc.)
III) All of the above, alternate material shaders (flat/worn, rusted, carbon, gold) and the ability to paint parts individually for "one of a kind" designs (client performance concerns?).

Alliance ads:

I)Alliance Banners in PC/FW war barges during selected timezones (open corp info when interacted with)
II) Corp/Alliance description on Merc quarter TV

Making all of those tradeable items (like PLEX) would allow corp leaders to pay for them through taxes and hopefully alleviate the "who's paying for it?" issue. It keeps those features from being locked behind a solid paywall aswell.

To get to the topic CCP could also bundle these with subs:

"Mercenary" sub nets one 30day booster and tier I personal colors, Some AUR.
"Veteran" sub includes one 30day booster+ tier II personal and tier I corp colors, Some AUR
"Elite" sub includes tier III customization and banners (+benefits for corpmates? 1day boosters, even?!).

I am not familiar with "red roping" and this being my first fps type of game, I am also not familiar with warcraft, or "wow" other than hearing the name warcraft.

So I cannot comment (address) this "issue."

This might be a good idea, for one type of subscription, but not everyone would want this option as a subscription. This might be good as a "In Game" subscription for corporations.

Okay essentially this.

New game feature comes out, but its only available if you pay for it.

I guess an example would be in Dust if oh say marketing patch hit, BUT it was only available to subscribers. You are a freenium or low premium player how would you feel about that.

That's an example of Red roping and I do not want to see the subscription program lead to that entirely.

How would you guys feel that subscribers get a bit more of a bonus for the regular events they participate in?

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How would you guys feel that subscribers get a bit more of a bonus for the regular events they participate in?

maybe they are waiting to add this until they can tie it in to a good excuse to remove all our bpo's.

You must be an EVE player. And you obviously have limited insight (and experience) on free to play games if you're lecturing me like that. Happy players bring more money. EVE is an anomaly in the gaming business, and nobody outside seems to understand how it has managed like it has. CCP seems just as surprised it survived so long and sustains itself.

You can't treat Dust like EVE. You can't appeal to a bunch of middle-aged people (or older) with a disposable income and not a lot of time and expect to get the same results on a console in the first person shooter genre.

And the only reason the game is so buggy is because CCP chose to build a revolutionary game on a ten year old machine that is no longer growing or improving, unlike PC which is constantly getting better. That's the only reason. Throwing more money at them isn't going to make the PS3 better. Nor is making players feel obligated to pay monthly for a free game going to make Dust more enjoyable.

Get over yourself. While you're at it, go watch your cable tv, call someone on your cell phone and then make a withdrawl from your bank.

On all these points (about me) you are dead wrong.

1st, I am not an EVE player, and this is the first FPS type game I have played.

As far as "free to play games," no I am a programmer, and do know about these type of games. Now if there are other free to play "online fps" games, then I am not familiar with them. What you may not realize is that it costs to improve things, and it also costs to have something connected to the Internet. How about you pay for the Internet connection and not have some type of compensation for it, other than people possibly paying for certain things that you can offer that is connected to the game.

Maybe "throwing" money at them through a subscription, can make improvements by providing them the means that they can depend on to make said improvements.

And no, I do not have cable tv, just an internet connection, and my cell phone, is just a basic one that costs me for each individual call as I do not have one of there "expensive" plans that I have no interest in paying for but not using.

Of course if you had read the entire posting on this subject you would have known this.

Lastly, I do not have a disposable income. Again, if you had read the previous posts, I am on a limited fixed income so I do have to be careful on what I do purchase.

So your statement "Get over yourself" is thrown right back to you, as it seems that you are the one with an attitude of being full of himself and want things for free and do not want others to have the ability to have a better playing experience via a subscription either!

I've looked at the credits and the DUST team doesn't seem that small. Why is it taking so long to deliver these assets? I'm not a game dev but I'd think they could ship a whole class of weapons across racial lines every two to three months.

The game is free to play. This is one of the issues that Eve players have a problem with. They pay a monthly premium to play Eve and support CCP's bottom line, while dust players pay nothing. That said, a lot of Eve players would probably love to see a subscription fee, but that's just not possible for Dust. We already don't have a large enough player base.

I think that a possible solution to both issues would be to attach a premium subscription type benefit to dust players that pay for Eve subscriptions. This way, dust is still free, and it could potentially grow both games at the same time. Eve players would have a valid reason for trying, and possibly staying in Dust, and Dust players would have a valid reason for giving Eve a try.

It seems like a win win to me, but i'm sure someone will find a flaw in my idea.

Have at.

V.