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Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:42:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:18:00 -
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Money and power are the two most corrupting forces that we face. I'm not religious, but theres a there's a certain truth behind the ol' adage "For the love of money is the root of all evil" (1 Timothy 6:10).
Coincidentally an artificial creation by humans that sort of echoes our innate nature. Even in the case of a completely useless virtual currency that serves no sort of feasible purpose outside its system and yet people become willing to forsake friends, backstab, what have you for nothing but a variable in a game. It's pretty interesting how even when faced with a virtual currency people still end up emulating the same greed you see in the real world. This game is simultaneously about pew pew and a sociological experiment. Even worse when you consider the pretty harsh diminishing returns on ISK versus something like cash.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1768
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Posted - 2013.11.24 10:21:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote:
*snippet* 20M/4B = .5% of earnings. 30B * .05% = 150M.
To clarify 30+ billion is what's left, that is aside from all the other money that was earned and has been paid...to insinuate as this does that we only earned 30 bill and thus we should only be paid out of that number is lol. You should be compensated for everything we earned. I couldn't donate more money, but why did we need more? Within 2 weeks of me being there we were earning big chunks of change. And I helped win most all of those battles, as opposed to cubs who got **** on like doc does when he couldn't forge up top...the only week I took off from PC was when i went to vegas for my b-day. Dedication to the core.
Thus this math is really . If you'd paid even half of what AE pays their guys in terms of % of earnings...I'd never have needed to resort to asking for a loan.
So even from your own perspective my cut using your terribad math would mean I get 150 mill of what's left, that's just what your admitting is your idea of what my stock in TP fake money is atm. We made over 15 billion a month on average over the summer and up until september. You paid me 20 mill a week up till MHPD. Then I got 30 mill like 2x. LOL.
Sorry but this has been bothering me, the idea I should only get back the portion of isk I put in when I got there, lol.
"Oh **** you Zatara, you only have 20 million and donated it, but **** you I gave it back so you're a ****** person!" -not drawing at straws here are we? This is despite te fact that I donated 16 mill before donating 20 mill. and offering to donate more later. SO Bad!
"**** you Zatara, you should only have made 150 million total isk!"
"**** you Zatara, let's use 30 billion as the number TP made during it's endeavors in PC and thus base how much isk you should be paid off of it, and while you use liberal numbers to guess our expenditures, i'm going to use lol illogical numbers to justify why you don't deserve any what we have left!"
All this with no reason to justify why you can't give me a LOAN with video game money I helped you earn, and you have no reason to think I won't pay back. LOL friends.
Overall....I don't think I'm missing out on much after reading all the venom again. And Legend lol, we had a good laugh in alliance about your rant. Have fun with the play money! Props to XC7 and Jade and any others for getting you to pay them for pubs! Payroll profit! Cha-CHING!
We held 3x as much as AE holds...and they pay their members 2x as much as we paid ours. SMH.
nest egg indeed. Keep counting those zeroes, we know it's more important than friends.
Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3119
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Posted - 2013.11.24 11:07:00 -
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The money we get is nice :D
I think kujo gives away 90% of total isk earned? Pretty sure. It's awesome :D Funds my random shenanigans. Like my tank alt that loses like 3 500k isk tanks per game lol
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1768
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Posted - 2013.11.24 11:25:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:The money we get is nice :D
I think kujo gives away 90% of total isk earned? Pretty sure. It's awesome :D Funds my random shenanigans. Like my tank alt that loses like 3 500k isk tanks per game lol
I'm taking a que from y'all and implementing this in my corp...but first we need more members!!
Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds.
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TooL 10000dayz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.11.24 14:39:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:good luck running a corp and learning the ins and outs of everything involved with it.
You call yourself a TeamPlayer, yet you come to a public forum and simply copy and paste a private convo? Hmm no wonder you are no longer part of the family...
But that is that. I still wish you the best and its just unfortunate you cant be an adult like most and accept a decision and move on.
lol at signature
maynard james keenan can fart into his microphone and still sound better than 90% of shit out there
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Doc DDD
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
101
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:20:00 -
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I am not the smartest guy but I will drop my 2 cents in and pretend there is logic involved. I am sure no one will follow the analogy and it probably won't make sense.
Lets say Hightimes and Cubs start a company that wants to sell computers, so they do, and they call it IBM. Now they need to hire people to sell computers, so they ask their friends that all love selling computers if would like to work at the same company. Most of the friends love the idea of working together.
Now to get the company going you need merchandise to sell. The CEOs of the company asks that if anyone can help BUILD some computers that they would really appreciate it. Hightimes and Cubs have built thousands already but would like to be prepared if demand outweighs supply. Most people can help but no one is forced, very few whine that they cant build computers because they just did for another company. So now the company has a product and employees to sell this product who are all for the most part happen to be friends. IBM is ready for business.
IBM becomes succesful and hires more employees to just sell computers, the company has sold enough that they can afford manufacturing factories to build the product. And product begins piling up.
As time passes salespeople come and go, fun is had by most and the drama is minimal. Most people love selling computers for IBM. Other companies are successful selling computers too, they are wise with their investments and good to their salespeople and this reflects both in the number of their factories and the MORALE of their salesTEAMs. Somepeople, like Xero, hated selling computers with a passion, but do it anyway because he liked spending time with friends at IBM. Eventually he has had enough and moves on, lots of people get bored selling computers and just move on.
One salesperson starts telling other salespeople he doesn't think they are pulling their weight, that they dont know how to sell, and is literally screaming at them, during and after every salesday. Now people start quitting left and right. Who would blame them? This person whined about not being able to help build computers on day 1, whined that he didn't manage his finances properly during an IRS accounting error, whined when he couldnt bully the CEOs into giving away product to the competition, whined when the CEOs didnt initially want to start a new company with new allstar salespeople, and was now berating his own salesTEAM. Now he is whining that IBM wont 'lend' 4% of their nestegg to a financially irresponsible 'friend' looking to p1ss it away on starting a new computer company? Money better spent on bacon and tacos!
Cubs and Hightimes decide that they were not having fun in this environment and sold the factories.
The product belongs to the company, you are not part of the company nor will you ever be again. Your typically Zatara false sense of entitlement, logical fallacies and your need for blame deflection will not be missed, however, we did sell a **** ton of computers bro! Cubs and Hightimes have made a decision for the betterment of the companies future and for those of us that like selling computers together, no matter the venue, which you made abundantly clear you were not interested in. IBM is still around and still has salespeople, it might even have factories one day. Until then it needs wise financial decisions made.
/End analogy
Good luck with your new corporation, sincerely.
If you have 10 members and are donating 90% of the corp profits to each be careful. If someone loans you the one billion I would advise you not to pay each member 100 million out of that on your first day as it only leaves you with 100 million plus a 900 million loan to repay. I guess you could beg for another billion but then who would be dumb enough? I guess you would have to build up enough land holdings, one at a time, and successfully WIN both attacks and defenses for a month or so, slowly paying down that debt, until finally you are out of the red. Maybe you will be lucky enough to have one of your members be such a d0uche that he decides he is entitled to a percentage of everything you have left when he leaves, and if you dont give it to him he will p1ss all over everything you have been through, building your corp together, fighting alongside you and make a huge whiney post about how much of a tyrant you are.... so if your members make 90% of your corps profit, are they also on the hook for its losses? If one district pays out 12 mil in clone sales per day and you have 24 members, that is 500k your corp can either pay down your loan with or start banking for a clone pack attack, 72 days between attacks is a long time, I hope no one attacks you, that you never lose, and that no one calls in vehicle's.
Most of all Zatara, good luck with morale.
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The legend345
0 7UCKS GIVEN
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:37:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote: I am not the smartest guy but I will drop my 2 cents in and pretend there is logic involved. I am sure no one will follow the analogy and it probably won't make sense.
Lets say Hightimes and Cubs start a company that wants to sell computers, so they do, and they call it IBM. Now they need to hire people to sell computers, so they ask their friends that all love selling computers if would like to work at the same company. Most of the friends love the idea of working together.
Now to get the company going you need merchandise to sell. The CEOs of the company asks that if anyone can help BUILD some computers that they would really appreciate it. Hightimes and Cubs have built thousands already but would like to be prepared if demand outweighs supply. Most people can help but no one is forced, very few whine that they cant build computers because they just did for another company. So now the company has a product and employees to sell this product who are all for the most part happen to be friends. IBM is ready for business.
IBM becomes succesful and hires more employees to just sell computers, the company has sold enough that they can afford manufacturing factories to build the product. And product begins piling up.
As time passes salespeople come and go, fun is had by most and the drama is minimal. Most people love selling computers for IBM. Other companies are successful selling computers too, they are wise with their investments and good to their salespeople and this reflects both in the number of their factories and the MORALE of their salesTEAMs. Somepeople, like Xero, hated selling computers with a passion, but do it anyway because he liked spending time with friends at IBM. Eventually he has had enough and moves on, lots of people get bored selling computers and just move on.
One salesperson starts telling other salespeople he doesn't think they are pulling their weight, that they dont know how to sell, and is literally screaming at them, during and after every salesday. Now people start quitting left and right. Who would blame them? This person whined about not being able to help build computers on day 1, whined that he didn't manage his finances properly during an IRS accounting error, whined when he couldnt bully the CEOs into giving away product to the competition, whined when the CEOs didnt initially want to start a new company with new allstar salespeople, and was now berating his own salesTEAM. Now he is whining that IBM wont 'lend' 4% of their nestegg to a financially irresponsible 'friend' looking to p1ss it away on starting a new computer company? Money better spent on bacon and tacos!
Cubs and Hightimes decide that they were not having fun in this environment and sold the factories.
The product belongs to the company, you are not part of the company nor will you ever be again. Your typically Zatara false sense of entitlement, logical fallacies and your need for blame deflection will not be missed, however, we did sell a **** ton of computers bro! Cubs and Hightimes have made a decision for the betterment of the companies future and for those of us that like selling computers together, no matter the venue, which you made abundantly clear you were not interested in. IBM is still around and still has salespeople, it might even have factories one day. Until then it needs wise financial decisions made.
/End analogy
Good luck with your new corporation, sincerely.
If you have 10 members and are donating 90% of the corp profits to each be careful. If someone loans you the one billion I would advise you not to pay each member 100 million out of that on your first day as it only leaves you with 100 million plus a 900 million loan to repay. I guess you could beg for another billion but then who would be dumb enough? I guess you would have to build up enough land holdings, one at a time, and successfully WIN both attacks and defenses for a month or so, slowly paying down that debt, until finally you are out of the red. Maybe you will be lucky enough to have one of your members be such a d0uche that he decides he is entitled to a percentage of everything you have left when he leaves, and if you dont give it to him he will p1ss all over everything you have been through, building your corp together, fighting alongside you and make a huge whiney post about how much of a tyrant you are.... so if your members make 90% of your corps profit, are they also on the hook for its losses? If one district pays out 12 mil in clone sales per day and you have 24 members, that is 500k your corp can either pay down your loan with or start banking for a clone pack attack, 72 days between attacks is a long time, I hope no one attacks you, that you never lose, and that no one calls in vehicle's.
Most of all Zatara, good luck with morale.
ROASTEEDDDDDDDDD
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1701
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:39:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:ROASTEEDDDDDDDDD .........
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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The legend345
0 7UCKS GIVEN
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:47:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:ROASTEEDDDDDDDDD ......... YOU JOINED IM DONE WITH U
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Draka Marintu
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
157
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:04:00 -
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:46:00 -
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Indeed doc your response was much more thought out. Nothing but respect despite disagreeing. I'll detail the flaws of the analogy when I get a minute. But suffice it to say as always a certain amount of criticism and antipathy seems unavoidable, but I do appreciate you keeping it to a minimum. Truly. Reminds me that outside of the legends most of TP were adults and despite disagreeing with my decision many still are friends. I'm very sorry if despite being kicked from TP I lose track of a few of ya! Thankfully only a few have deleted me XD And those will be replaced with peeps that are perhaps more reasonable about how they handle disagreements. I was fine ending it in TP chat with a public discussion. Shame it couldn't end there and cubs decided to escalate it.
Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds.
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The legend345
0 7UCKS GIVEN
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:11:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Indeed doc your response was much more thought out. Nothing but respect despite disagreeing. I'll detail the flaws of the analogy when I get a minute. But suffice it to say as always a certain amount of criticism and antipathy seems unavoidable, but I do appreciate you keeping it to a minimum. Truly. Reminds me that outside of the legends most of TP were adults and despite disagreeing with my decision many still are friends. I'm very sorry if despite being kicked from TP I lose track of a few of ya! Thankfully only a few have deleted me XD And those will be replaced with peeps that are perhaps more reasonable about how they handle disagreements. I was fine ending it in TP chat with a public discussion. Shame it couldn't end there and cubs decided to escalate it. lol
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Doc DDD
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
102
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:12:00 -
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Cubs escalated it by posting the discussion on the forums? No
He denied you a loan. It should have ended there, your video game credit rating was not high enough for a videogame loan from the bank of Teamplayers. Commence zatara escelation
There are no flaws in the analogy, you purchased no shares in the corporation, you were not promised a percentage of the bank holdings when you left. However you owe everyone in your corp 90% of every isk it makes, and it is documented on these forums.
I cant be any clearer with my opinion, as it is just that, my opinion.. you can post whatever you want, how no one was as good as you in teamplayers, how you have a right to raid the wallet in perpetuity without discression for simply logging in 30 seconds before a match. But it would just be easier if I beat my head against a wall for 4 hours. Like I said I do sincerely wish you good luck, but if you think the guy flippin burgers at mcdonalds has a right to his percentage of the entire corporate savings of McDonald's liquidated assets then we are not operating on the same wavelength.
If maurader asked kujo for a billion isk, because he said it was owed to him, so he could leave the corp and start his own planetary conquest, and kujo said no on principal, I am pretty sure he would suck it up and start saving for his dream, not start slinging crap about kujo on the forums. Then again maurader may have better credit than you.
Learn to deal with rejection
Peace
( I understand you dont think you were merely flipping burgers, you also worked the till )
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:25:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:ROASTEEDDDDDDDDD ......... YOU JOINED IM DONE WITH U I honestly don't give a single ****.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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The legend345
0 7UCKS GIVEN
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:40:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:ROASTEEDDDDDDDDD ......... YOU JOINED IM DONE WITH U I honestly don't give a single ****. You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;)
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:43:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand....
I do not care at all.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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The legend345
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:54:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand.... I do not care at all. im going to go cut myself now
a slice of cake
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General John Ripper
Pradox One Proficiency V.
5614
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:55:00 -
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QQ
(just thought I'd make a post that is relevant to the topic of conversation going on here.)
This is my signature.
I like beer.
I like tacos.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:57:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand.... I do not care at all. im going to go cut myself now a slice of cake You think I actually care. You poor, misguided soul. You crave attention so you decided to make an unnecessarily long post. I almost pity you.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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The legend345
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:59:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand.... I do not care at all. im going to go cut myself now a slice of cake You think I actually care. You poor, misguided soul. You crave attention so you decided to make an unnecessarily long post. I almost pity you. lol forum warrior :O. i dont play this **** because i have a life ;).
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Derrith Erador
Pradox One Proficiency V.
451
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:46:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand.... I do not care at all. im going to go cut myself now a slice of cake
So, I just tried to scroll through all that. And I have one thing to show you, and one thing to say. What I have to say it you, good sir, resemble a phallus. And I shall show you this.
I love kittens with mittens
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The legend345
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:10:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:The legend345 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:The legend345 wrote:You dont give a single you give a hundred right ;) I think you misread that.....let me put it into terms you may understand.... I do not care at all. im going to go cut myself now a slice of cake So, I just tried to scroll through all that. And I have one thing to show you, and one thing to say. What I have to say it you, good sir, resemble a phallus. And I shall show you this.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
571
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:10:00 -
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I farted.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:13:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:lol forum warrior :O. i dont play this **** because i have a life ;). This game is better off without you anyway ;)
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3137
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:27:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote: If maurader asked kujo for a billion isk, because he said it was owed to him, so he could leave the corp and start his own planetary conquest, and kujo said no on principal, I am pretty sure he would suck it up and start saving for his dream, not start slinging crap about kujo on the forums. Then again maurader may have better credit than you.
I think kujo would give it to me
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 3
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The legend345
0 7UCKS GIVEN
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:36:00 -
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Did a flash of zatara come out?
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1717
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:41:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Did a flash of zatara come out? I'm not even going to say anything, it's not worth the effort anymore.....
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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p4rkwaydrive
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
453
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:50:00 -
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Bout time you left your crap corp Patrick lol.
Zatara ill lend u 100mil per handjob. LMK bro
Joking aside, good luck with the new corp bud. U in pc yet?
GôªGôùGôÉGôú GôôGôPGôöGôó GôúGôùGôö GôòGôPGôº GôóGôÉGô¿ GÖÑ
Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-POW!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1723
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:52:00 -
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p4rkwaydrive wrote:Bout time you left your crap corp Patrick lol.
Zatara ill lend u 100mil per handjob. LMK bro
Joking aside, good luck with the new corp bud. U in pc yet? They were great people tyvm, just not what I was looking for :p
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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