Doc DDD
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:20:00 -
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I am not the smartest guy but I will drop my 2 cents in and pretend there is logic involved. I am sure no one will follow the analogy and it probably won't make sense.
Lets say Hightimes and Cubs start a company that wants to sell computers, so they do, and they call it IBM. Now they need to hire people to sell computers, so they ask their friends that all love selling computers if would like to work at the same company. Most of the friends love the idea of working together.
Now to get the company going you need merchandise to sell. The CEOs of the company asks that if anyone can help BUILD some computers that they would really appreciate it. Hightimes and Cubs have built thousands already but would like to be prepared if demand outweighs supply. Most people can help but no one is forced, very few whine that they cant build computers because they just did for another company. So now the company has a product and employees to sell this product who are all for the most part happen to be friends. IBM is ready for business.
IBM becomes succesful and hires more employees to just sell computers, the company has sold enough that they can afford manufacturing factories to build the product. And product begins piling up.
As time passes salespeople come and go, fun is had by most and the drama is minimal. Most people love selling computers for IBM. Other companies are successful selling computers too, they are wise with their investments and good to their salespeople and this reflects both in the number of their factories and the MORALE of their salesTEAMs. Somepeople, like Xero, hated selling computers with a passion, but do it anyway because he liked spending time with friends at IBM. Eventually he has had enough and moves on, lots of people get bored selling computers and just move on.
One salesperson starts telling other salespeople he doesn't think they are pulling their weight, that they dont know how to sell, and is literally screaming at them, during and after every salesday. Now people start quitting left and right. Who would blame them? This person whined about not being able to help build computers on day 1, whined that he didn't manage his finances properly during an IRS accounting error, whined when he couldnt bully the CEOs into giving away product to the competition, whined when the CEOs didnt initially want to start a new company with new allstar salespeople, and was now berating his own salesTEAM. Now he is whining that IBM wont 'lend' 4% of their nestegg to a financially irresponsible 'friend' looking to p1ss it away on starting a new computer company? Money better spent on bacon and tacos!
Cubs and Hightimes decide that they were not having fun in this environment and sold the factories.
The product belongs to the company, you are not part of the company nor will you ever be again. Your typically Zatara false sense of entitlement, logical fallacies and your need for blame deflection will not be missed, however, we did sell a **** ton of computers bro! Cubs and Hightimes have made a decision for the betterment of the companies future and for those of us that like selling computers together, no matter the venue, which you made abundantly clear you were not interested in. IBM is still around and still has salespeople, it might even have factories one day. Until then it needs wise financial decisions made.
/End analogy
Good luck with your new corporation, sincerely.
If you have 10 members and are donating 90% of the corp profits to each be careful. If someone loans you the one billion I would advise you not to pay each member 100 million out of that on your first day as it only leaves you with 100 million plus a 900 million loan to repay. I guess you could beg for another billion but then who would be dumb enough? I guess you would have to build up enough land holdings, one at a time, and successfully WIN both attacks and defenses for a month or so, slowly paying down that debt, until finally you are out of the red. Maybe you will be lucky enough to have one of your members be such a d0uche that he decides he is entitled to a percentage of everything you have left when he leaves, and if you dont give it to him he will p1ss all over everything you have been through, building your corp together, fighting alongside you and make a huge whiney post about how much of a tyrant you are.... so if your members make 90% of your corps profit, are they also on the hook for its losses? If one district pays out 12 mil in clone sales per day and you have 24 members, that is 500k your corp can either pay down your loan with or start banking for a clone pack attack, 72 days between attacks is a long time, I hope no one attacks you, that you never lose, and that no one calls in vehicle's.
Most of all Zatara, good luck with morale.
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Doc DDD
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:12:00 -
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Cubs escalated it by posting the discussion on the forums? No
He denied you a loan. It should have ended there, your video game credit rating was not high enough for a videogame loan from the bank of Teamplayers. Commence zatara escelation
There are no flaws in the analogy, you purchased no shares in the corporation, you were not promised a percentage of the bank holdings when you left. However you owe everyone in your corp 90% of every isk it makes, and it is documented on these forums.
I cant be any clearer with my opinion, as it is just that, my opinion.. you can post whatever you want, how no one was as good as you in teamplayers, how you have a right to raid the wallet in perpetuity without discression for simply logging in 30 seconds before a match. But it would just be easier if I beat my head against a wall for 4 hours. Like I said I do sincerely wish you good luck, but if you think the guy flippin burgers at mcdonalds has a right to his percentage of the entire corporate savings of McDonald's liquidated assets then we are not operating on the same wavelength.
If maurader asked kujo for a billion isk, because he said it was owed to him, so he could leave the corp and start his own planetary conquest, and kujo said no on principal, I am pretty sure he would suck it up and start saving for his dream, not start slinging crap about kujo on the forums. Then again maurader may have better credit than you.
Learn to deal with rejection
Peace
( I understand you dont think you were merely flipping burgers, you also worked the till )
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